GT3 for everyone......

GT3 for everyone......

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robgt3

2,585 posts

162 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Porsche911R said:
allatsea said:
Wrong information or just wrong?
both :-)

the GT3 touring is a no cost option pack available from Dec build cars if you already have a GT3 allocation.

So that = rare as **** as 1/2 the cars are built, the other 3/4 won't spec it, so there might be, on a good day 40 UK GT3 Tourings sold in total lol

expect those to be £180k 2nd hand I guess.
In my opinion you are right on the nail. I believe I estimated 60 cars max.

robgt3

2,585 posts

162 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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BubblesNW said:
Porsche GT cars are limited by the production capacity in Zuffenhausen. They have a limited time to produce the latest and greatest until the next one comes along, be that a GT3, GT3RS, GT4, GT2RS or whatever. The only simple way to increase supply of these halo cars would be to expand the capacity at Zuffenhausen or switch production to another site.

The question is - why would Porsche want to do that? The GT car division creates an exclusivity for the Porsche brand which trickles down to the mainstream Macans and Cayennes which generate huge amounts of cash for the company. If the GT products were produced in unlimited numbers no doubt Porsche could they sell two or three times as many but would they be desirable? Would Porsche still have people banging on their doors begging to be allowed to give them relatively huge amounts of cash with never a request for a discount.

Does the list price only sales of GT cars trickle down to mainstream models? You can get a huge discount on a Merc which competes with a Panamera, Cayenne or Macan but only a small discount on the Porsche. I would say that Porsche have got it right in their business model which upsets a few but maintains value for many while ensuring maximum profits for themselves.

The new policy to spread allocations more widely also increases the fan base for the halo cars and gives more people the feeling they have a chance of getting one rather than the old system which was so widely criticised and open to abuse which has been well documented elsewhere.

Luca di Montezemolo deliberately reduced the production numbers at Ferrari to 7000 per year to preserve exclusivity and sell more licensed products such as caps and Tshirts. Only now that he has gone will Ferrari be increasing production to 9000 per year by 2019.

It's a first world problem which Porsche appear to be handling rather well. All in my honest opinion obviously! Others may well disagree.
Totally correct in my opinion. Probably would account for Porsche being the most profitable car company.

Fokker

3,460 posts

222 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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robgt3 said:
Porsche911R said:
allatsea said:
Wrong information or just wrong?
both :-)

the GT3 touring is a no cost option pack available from Dec build cars if you already have a GT3 allocation.

So that = rare as **** as 1/2 the cars are built, the other 3/4 won't spec it, so there might be, on a good day 40 UK GT3 Tourings sold in total lol

expect those to be £180k 2nd hand I guess.
In my opinion you are right on the nail. I believe I estimated 60 cars max.
I'm not just saying this because I'm getting a GT3 but 180k?! I think that's wishful thinking, I'd have 2 if that were the case! Just because you can buy a 991 RS for less than 200k doesn't mean the new gt3 will be available at less than that. This new engine and a manual gearbox will inflate the used prices substantially past the 200k mark. It wouldn't surprise me if we see the Touring, being a manual for sale at 250k, perhaps slightly more. The 991R I doubt will be affected very much, certainly not into the high 200's. You're still paying 135-140k for a very good Gen 1 991 GT3. 40k premium over the Gen 1 for the new car with a manual gearbox? I doubt it very much.

breadvan

2,000 posts

168 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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robgt3 said:
Porsche911R said:
allatsea said:
Wrong information or just wrong?
both :-)

the GT3 touring is a no cost option pack available from Dec build cars if you already have a GT3 allocation.

So that = rare as **** as 1/2 the cars are built, the other 3/4 won't spec it, so there might be, on a good day 40 UK GT3 Tourings sold in total lol

expect those to be £180k 2nd hand I guess.
In my opinion you are right on the nail. I believe I estimated 60 cars max.
Of course, winged GT3s, by default are going to be rarer now too.