Manual 991.2 GT3's - owners views

[Porsche911R]

Hardest part for me is doing drifting on the lime stone , not donuts, but trying to drift big circles.

It’s easy to drift the bends , but it's quite hard to do 2 full big circles imo.

[Taffy66]

Porsche911R said:

Not so sure, it's best to wait a bit imo, if you have very fast reflexes when you drive on the plate it moves and you react and some time the wrong way, if you wait a few 10ths no need to second guess or react as fast. Once you realise it’s not about reflexes it’s very easy and gets dull once mastered.

By quick reflexes what i mean is you only react with the steering only when you know which way the kick plate has kicked you.The secret is to not try to pre-empt which way it goes and react with the steering. A person with extremely fast reflexes can wait until he feels with his bum which way it goes and only then apply opposite lock once and hold it there for a second and the car should straighten out on that first steering input.

[Juno]

It may be irrelevant for me now as I’m probably going to miss allocation anyway but still have fingers crossed.

My spec is Manual Club Sport as I’ve always liked the driver input and particularly the heel toe aspect.

Something about PDK is winning me over to a degre, am I going soft or does it suit the car better?

Has the maual option got to be chosen on the basis of I’m having it because that’s what I want and put the technical differences aside?

[Porsche911R]

Juno said:

It may be irrelevant for me now as I’m probably going to miss allocation anyway but still have fingers crossed.

My spec is Manual Club Sport as I’ve always liked the driver input and particularly the heel toe aspect.

Something about PDK is winning me over to a degre, am I going soft or does it suit the car better?

Has the maual option got to be chosen on the basis of I’m having it because that’s what I want and put the technical differences aside?

Yes, let’s hope the manual rewards like it does in the GT4, and it's not just an after thought on a platform designed for PDK and e-diffs.

[Juno]

Porsche911R said:

Juno said:

It may be irrelevant for me now as I’m probably going to miss allocation anyway but still have fingers crossed.

My spec is Manual Club Sport as I’ve always liked the driver input and particularly the heel toe aspect.

Something about PDK is winning me over to a degre, am I going soft or does it suit the car better?

Has the maual option got to be chosen on the basis of I’m having it because that’s what I want and put the technical differences aside?

Yes, let’s hope the manual rewards like it does in the GT4, and it's not just an after thought on a platform designed for PDK and e-diffs.

yes that’s my fear I guess, we’ll put!

And as regards GT4 any rumours ?

[Koln-RS]

Surely it was the proven success of the 6-spd gearbox in the 911'R' that has allowed it to be offered in the GT3.

If anything, it should have been fine-tuned to be even better.

[Juno]

Koln-RS said:

Surely it was the proven success of the 6-spd gearbox in the 911'R' that has allowed it to be offered in the GT3.

If anything, it should have been fine-tuned to be even better.

Was it a driving success in the 911R or was it the limited numbers £400K price tag?

I didn’t pay much attention to test drive reports as the price tag made it a pipe dream. Was the 911R considered to be a driving God of a car or a manual just to be different?

[hunter 66]

Wow car parked in the house now ...... buying demographics have changed my Gt3's were always parked on the street in London ... but then you lost money in depreciation like all cars so you just enjoyed it ..

[RSVP911]

hunter 66 said:

Wow car parked in the house now ...... buying demographics have changed my Gt3's were always parked on the street in London ... but then you lost money in depreciation like all cars so you just enjoyed it ..

Just wait to see the image of one tucked up in the owners bed, with said owner , both smoking a post coital tab

[browngt3]

Juno said:

Was it a driving success in the 911R or was it the limited numbers £400K price tag?

I didn’t pay much attention to test drive reports as the price tag made it a pipe dream. Was the 911R considered to be a driving God of a car or a manual just to be different?

Yes the 911R was considered to be the ultimate drivers car. I would like to see a comparison test of the R and manual GT3. Anyone know if there is one? The obvious comparison will be with the GT3 Touring.

[rkwm1]

browngt3 said:

Yes the 911R was considered to be the ultimate drivers car. I would like to see a comparison test of the R and manual GT3. Anyone know if there is one? The obvious comparison will be with the GT3 Touring.

https://www.topgear.com/videos/supercars/video-porsche-911-r-vs-911-gt3-manual

not the best review

[Lee GT]

MartinRS2K said:

The hardest part for me was keeping the throttle steady! Correction was fine but on a couple of occasions I gave it too much on the loud pedal

Exactly what I was struggling with.

[browngt3]

rkwm1 said:

https://www.topgear.com/videos/supercars/video-por...

not the best review

Thanks, agree not the best review but interesting to hear the difference in engine noise. Does make 911R values seem crazy in comparison though IMHO.

[RSVP911]

browngt3 said:

rkwm1 said:

https://www.topgear.com/videos/supercars/video-por...

not the best review

Thanks, agree not the best review but interesting to hear the difference in engine noise. Does make 911R values seem crazy in comparison though IMHO.

Shocking review - what a waste

[Fokker]

Gearbox has the same feel and the clutch weight is identical in both gt3 and 911R. I can't imagine that there are many discernible differences apart from the engine being a bit better in the newer car. I think the main difference will be that the 911r is softer sprung.

Not just saying it as I own a manual gt3 but the marriage seems top notch to me. No quibbles so far under 4K revs.

[Phooey]

Fokker said:

Gearbox has the same feel and the clutch weight is identical in both gt3 and 911R. I can't imagine that there are many discernible differences apart from the engine being a bit better in the newer car. I think the main difference will be that the 911r is softer sprung.

Not just saying it as I own a manual gt3 but the marriage seems top notch to me. No quibbles so far under 4K revs.

Topgear on the manual GT3 -

Hang on a minute, isn’t this just a 911R without stripes?

Wondered when this was going to come up. Yes, there are glaring similarities between this and the limited-run 911R, currently swapping hands for silly money. They are both products of Porsche’s GT department, both do without rear appendages, both feature rev-hungry flat-sixes and both have six-speed manual gearboxes.

However, the 911R has the older 4.0-litre engine, capped at 8,500rpm, a magnesium roof, carbon bonnet and front fenders, and weighs in at 1,370kg compared to the GT3 Touring’s 1,413kg.

We quizzed Porsche GT boss Andreas Preuninger on this touchy subject and he was keen to stress that if you’re lucky enough to drive the 911R and GT3 Touring back to back, the R’s unique chassis setting make it, relatively at least, a more frenetic, energy-sapping experience.

[RSVP911]

Phooey said:

Fokker said:

Gearbox has the same feel and the clutch weight is identical in both gt3 and 911R. I can't imagine that there are many discernible differences apart from the engine being a bit better in the newer car. I think the main difference will be that the 911r is softer sprung.

Not just saying it as I own a manual gt3 but the marriage seems top notch to me. No quibbles so far under 4K revs.

Topgear on the manual GT3 -

Hang on a minute, isn’t this just a 911R without stripes?

Wondered when this was going to come up. Yes, there are glaring similarities between this and the limited-run 911R, currently swapping hands for silly money. They are both products of Porsche’s GT department, both do without rear appendages, both feature rev-hungry flat-sixes and both have six-speed manual gearboxes.

However, the 911R has the older 4.0-litre engine, capped at 8,500rpm, a magnesium roof, carbon bonnet and front fenders, and weighs in at 1,370kg compared to the GT3 Touring’s 1,413kg.

We quizzed Porsche GT boss Andreas Preuninger on this touchy subject and he was keen to stress that if you’re lucky enough to drive the 911R and GT3 Touring back to back, the R’s unique chassis setting make it, relatively at least, a more frenetic, energy-sapping experience.

I very much doubt it, but then again I am yet to drive either - but if it looks like a 911R, & it sounds like a 911R , etc ........

Just saying

[isaldiri]

RSVP911 said:

I very much doubt it, but then again I am yet to drive either - but if it looks like a 911R, & it sounds like a 911R , etc ........

Are you saying that you doubt the fact Porsche have specifically stated that the R is tuned to be lively on the road? Or do you doubt their capability to do so in making the car feel distinct from the .2 gt3? If one took the argument if it looks like a 911 then all of them would drive the same.....

[RSVP911]

isaldiri said:

RSVP911 said:

I very much doubt it, but then again I am yet to drive either - but if it looks like a 911R, & it sounds like a 911R , etc ........

Are you saying that you doubt the fact Porsche have specifically stated that the R is tuned to be lively on the road? Or do you doubt their capability to do so in making the car feel distinct from the .2 gt3? If one took the argument if it looks like a 911 then all of them would drive the same.....

I’m saying that on the road, I imagine that the driving experience of a 911R and a manual 991.2 GT3 will be indistinguishable - but as I said in my post, I’m yet to drive either and as such this is pure conjecture on my part. However, on the face of it, outside of the SMFW on one and the engine in the other, they sound like very similar cars to me and as such, I think it’s just marketing bullst (and a couple of hundred grand) that separates them - but as always - this is only my humble opinion

What do you think ?

[RSVP911]

anonymous said:

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Pretty sure, I don’t have the talent to notice any discernible difference