Anyone for ‘T’

Anyone for ‘T’

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andywalton

184 posts

88 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Quick question as locking spec as I've been fortunate enough to get an allocation

Trying to choose between

GT Silver or Guards Red
(had gentian on a prior car and found it too difficult and wife has vetoed black)
Hi, why did you find Gentian too difficult? To keep clean? Or was the paint prone to scratches, swirling?

Both GT and GR are great colours and will contrast well with the grey bits.

ags11

569 posts

141 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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I’m honestly not trying to be controversial, but why would anyone want a PDK T?
Surely the main attraction is to have a manual in a base Carrera?
Why not just order a Carrera and end up with a 992.2.
Are people ordering a T just to get a car quicker?

Pivo

1,082 posts

36 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
April build, so May approx. Did you option in back seats? Which trim did you end up selecting?
Congrats on the allocation @bennno

I have gone GT silver and standard cloth seats as it is more retro, but red is very attractive.

I have gone with MT, as I am driving Boxster MT and I love the engagement, but PDK is great if you spend a lot of time in traffic.

I also got rear seats for my Schnauzers!

I will be getting my 992T at the same time ~May-23

andywalton

184 posts

88 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Quick question as locking spec as I've been fortunate enough to get an allocation

Trying to choose between

GT Silver or Guards Red
(had gentian on a prior car and found it too difficult and wife has vetoed black)
Hi, why did you find Gentian too difficult? To keep clean? Or was the paint prone to scratches, swirling?

Both GT and GR are great colours and will contrast well with the grey bits.

finmac

1,522 posts

239 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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ags11 said:
I’m honestly not trying to be controversial, but why would anyone want a PDK T?
Surely the main attraction is to have a manual in a base Carrera?
Why not just order a Carrera and end up with a 992.2.
Are people ordering a T just to get a car quicker?
Why not, got a nice spec, 4.5/5 star reviews, a little exclusivity (if that’s your thing), plus a T will likely be worth more than a standard Carrera even with similar specs, clincher is can get the T very quickly potentially.

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Better projected residual by 5% for PDK equipped cars. Dealer echoed comments below that demand higher.

Dealer also said 2 seat variant was previously much harder to shift….


ags11

569 posts

141 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Dealer should know l suppose smile

Agreed on rear seats, 911 usp really.

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Better projected residual by 5% for PDK equipped cars. Dealer echoed comments below that demand higher.

Dealer also said 2 seat variant was previously much harder to shift….
The status of used prices for Cayman Rs and 991 T’s should tell them that, in the long term, manual 992 T’s will command more money.

Should buckets come back in stock, the most sought after long term will be a manual with buckets (and all the trimmings).

The whole USP is a manual being available this low down in the 992 food chain.
Your dealers crystal ball needs a wipe.

Dealers “know nothing. Nothing”






Edited by julian987R on Monday 6th February 22:30

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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julian987R said:
bennno said:
Better projected residual by 5% for PDK equipped cars. Dealer echoed comments below that demand higher.

Dealer also said 2 seat variant was previously much harder to shift….
The status of used prices for Cayman Rs and 991 T’s should tell them that, in the long term, manual 992 T’s will command more money.

Should buckets come back in stock, the most sought after long term will be a manual with buckets (and all the trimmings).

The whole USP is a manual being available this low down in the 992 food chain.
Your dealers crystal ball needs a wipe.

Dealers “know nothing. Nothing”

Edited by julian987R on Monday 6th February 22:30
Porsche finance set the residuals, so presumably they know nothing either re PDK? Odd a PDK Spyder is more valuable than manual.

Not sure of your ‘all the trimmings’ comment, that’s contrary to their low weight and price surely?

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Porsche finance set the residuals, so presumably they know nothing either re PDK? Odd a PDK Spyder is more valuable than manual.

Not sure of your ‘all the trimmings’ comment, that’s contrary to their low weight and price surely?
low weight trimmings smile

Pivo

1,082 posts

36 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Porsche finance set the residuals, so presumably they know nothing either re PDK? Odd a PDK Spyder is more valuable than manual.

Not sure of your ‘all the trimmings’ comment, that’s contrary to their low weight and price surely?
Get the transmission that you want and enjoy it. There is no right and wrong answers.

If you ask enthusiasts on the forum, you will get enthusiast answer. :-)

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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bennno said:
Odd a PDK Spyder is more valuable than manual.

andywalton

184 posts

88 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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bennno said:
Better projected residual by 5% for PDK equipped cars. Dealer echoed comments below that demand higher.

Dealer also said 2 seat variant was previously much harder to shift….
Dealers will know what sells well in 1-3 years time. I think they will advise you based on whether they expect you to hand it back within this time and therefore want the easiest 911 to shift. Most causal buyers of 911s want PDK and all the comfort options.

diffstar

467 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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andywalton said:
Dealers will know what sells well in 1-3 years time. I think they will advise you based on whether they expect you to hand it back within this time and therefore want the easiest 911 to shift. Most causal buyers of 911s want PDK and all the comfort options.
True, are there more causal buyers then more enthusiasts.......?

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Specced my 991.2 T with comfort and free rear seat.

Anyone wanting to could always remove the rear seat but obvs you are restricting the appeal of the car if you spec rear seat delete.

diffstar

467 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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I think manual, comforts and rear seats is the perfect 911 T spec.

I think PDK is more suited to a S or GTS and find the buckets a PIA.

Just my view. I have had 2 x 991.2 T both manual. First had the "MUST HAVE" buckets and the 2nd did not.........

finmac

1,522 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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av185 said:
Specced my 991.2 T with comfort and free rear seat.

Anyone wanting to could always remove the rear seat but obvs you are restricting the appeal of the car if you spec rear seat delete.
My logic also. I mean, the rear seats add a few kg weight to the car, big deal, so why potentially alienate 50/75% of buyers by deletion of them?

andywalton

184 posts

88 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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diffstar said:
True, are there more causal buyers then more enthusiasts.......?
Probably for the non-GT cars. I think Porsche has done a fantastic job in broadening out their appeal from enthusiasts, most see them as luxury / status symbols to put on the drive.

andywalton

184 posts

88 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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finmac said:
My logic also. I mean, the rear seats add a few kg weight to the car, big deal, so why potentially alienate 50/75% of buyers by deletion of them?
I am coming round to that way of thinking ... I think I want the rear seat delete as it might feel more special. I think if you can get buckets then there is no point having rear seats. If comfort then you may as well option them in.

bosshog

1,585 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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diffstar said:
True, are there more causal buyers then more enthusiasts.......?
I'd say 90% of buyers.