Flipped GT3.2's
Discussion
LaSource said:
GT4RS said:
Taffy you talk sense, I’m sure the genuine DP’s in the opc centres try there best to keep track of cars and are probably very disappointed if they get into the hands of people in it just to make a fast buck. It must be very difficult for the DP’s deciding who can have an allocation or not. I’m yet to own a new GT car but I hope by carrying on my relationship with my local opc will one day enable me to spec a new gt car to my preferred spec.
Imo it’s a dying shame not to see these cars being driven, let’s not forget the reason most of us true car nuts got into cars years a ago was due to seeing these sort of cars out and about as a kid. The only place you get to see these sort of cars nowadays is on the internet!
Sorry for being a bit negative, but don't you think all those people who have secured an allocation to date (current or previous GT cars) are also continuing to play the game to 'maintain a relationship'? ie unless the OPCs say 'if you have had a GT car then you cannot have another for 4 iterations' then you will always be number 700 (say) and Porsche only make 2-300 of any iteration which goes to existing good customers....Imo it’s a dying shame not to see these cars being driven, let’s not forget the reason most of us true car nuts got into cars years a ago was due to seeing these sort of cars out and about as a kid. The only place you get to see these sort of cars nowadays is on the internet!
(until they start depreciating again, of course)
(I realised someone will post soon how they got one and have never bought a Porsche before, etc, etc)
Nice 
Tbf, Think they made over 550 GT4s so they were a tad easier to get. Hopefully the latest cars will be made in similar numbers (though looks unlikely)
What OPCs have been doing is encouraging people to take additional things like finance, trade ins, alternative models, etc in order to keep punters chasing the relationship. Of course this does work...though typically for the people who already have a relationship or some form of relationship.
Tbf, Think they made over 550 GT4s so they were a tad easier to get. Hopefully the latest cars will be made in similar numbers (though looks unlikely)
What OPCs have been doing is encouraging people to take additional things like finance, trade ins, alternative models, etc in order to keep punters chasing the relationship. Of course this does work...though typically for the people who already have a relationship or some form of relationship.
anonymous said:
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Interestingly (perhaps) the 911 R and 991.2 GT3 that JZM put up on their website (under covers though it was obvious the GT3 was Racing Yellow) a couple of weeks ago have been removed from their website....I am assuming not sold as they've not posted anything on Twitter saying they've sold them which they're not shy of doing. Also not showing in the "Previously Sold" section of the website.Cheib said:
I very much doubt it’s within the terms of each OPC’s franchise agreement that Porsche GB can unilaterally impose terms on the OPC as to the contractural terms under which OPC’s supply cars to their (not Porsche GB’s customers).
I think Porsche GB have the OPC’s on short reins in terms of making sure that genuine customers get cars and no related parties e.g. “The DP’s wife/best friend” get cars because of the negative impact it has on the brand. However that’s very much between the OPC and Porsche GB.
Just because when someone complains to Porsche GB about a car being flipped and they say “Please complain to the supplying OPC” that doesn’t mean Porsche GB don’t get on the phone to the OPC and give them a massive b
king...they’re just not going to tell anyone else that. It’s “straight bat” to the public whilst the bking goes on behind closed doors I imagine.
I can assure you Porsche GB do not care what the franchises get up to, they don't even have the staff to do anything (outsourced). One northern franchise had 7x 991.1 GT3 RS's all lined up forsale in their showroom back in Jan 2016, they even had the audacity to post the pictures on instagram which pissed a few other OPC's off.I think Porsche GB have the OPC’s on short reins in terms of making sure that genuine customers get cars and no related parties e.g. “The DP’s wife/best friend” get cars because of the negative impact it has on the brand. However that’s very much between the OPC and Porsche GB.
Just because when someone complains to Porsche GB about a car being flipped and they say “Please complain to the supplying OPC” that doesn’t mean Porsche GB don’t get on the phone to the OPC and give them a massive b
king...they’re just not going to tell anyone else that. It’s “straight bat” to the public whilst the bking goes on behind closed doors I imagine. With regards PCGB view on flipping, I pointed out several instances to PCGB where cars had or were about to be flipped and some of the lucrative 'deals' that had been made to get allocations - This was on the back of the Sales manager making up some bulls
t excuses about the allocation process and how they refuse to sell to anybody that has flipped. Truth is, there was no allocation process at this specific OPC..... very much an old boys club in who gets cars with a 'i scratch your back you scratch mine' approach.n17ves said:
I can assure you Porsche GB do not care what the franchises get up to, they don't even have the staff to do anything (outsourced). One northern franchise had 7x 991.1 GT3 RS's all lined up forsale in their showroom back in Jan 2016, they even had the audacity to post the pictures on instagram which pissed a few other OPC's off.
With regards PCGB view on flipping, I pointed out several instances to PCGB where cars had or were about to be flipped and some of the lucrative 'deals' that had been made to get allocations - This was on the back of the Sales manager making up some bullst excuses about the allocation process and how they refuse to sell to anybody that has flipped. Truth is, there was no allocation process at this specific OPC..... very much an old boys club in who gets cars with a 'i scratch your back you scratch mine' approach.
Porsche GB did look into your allegations very seriously.With regards PCGB view on flipping, I pointed out several instances to PCGB where cars had or were about to be flipped and some of the lucrative 'deals' that had been made to get allocations - This was on the back of the Sales manager making up some bulls
t excuses about the allocation process and how they refuse to sell to anybody that has flipped. Truth is, there was no allocation process at this specific OPC..... very much an old boys club in who gets cars with a 'i scratch your back you scratch mine' approach.n17ves said:
I can assure you Porsche GB do not care what the franchises get up to, they don't even have the staff to do anything (outsourced). One northern franchise had 7x 991.1 GT3 RS's all lined up forsale in their showroom back in Jan 2016, they even had the audacity to post the pictures on instagram which pissed a few other OPC's off.
With regards PCGB view on flipping, I pointed out several instances to PCGB where cars had or were about to be flipped and some of the lucrative 'deals' that had been made to get allocations - This was on the back of the Sales manager making up some bullst excuses about the allocation process and how they refuse to sell to anybody that has flipped. Truth is, there was no allocation process at this specific OPC..... very much an old boys club in who gets cars with a 'i scratch your back you scratch mine' approach.
Yep, I agree. With regards PCGB view on flipping, I pointed out several instances to PCGB where cars had or were about to be flipped and some of the lucrative 'deals' that had been made to get allocations - This was on the back of the Sales manager making up some bulls
t excuses about the allocation process and how they refuse to sell to anybody that has flipped. Truth is, there was no allocation process at this specific OPC..... very much an old boys club in who gets cars with a 'i scratch your back you scratch mine' approach.Looks like I may not land a gen2 and my gen1 will be staying.
Since myself turning down a gen2 going for overs (track spec) I have come to the conclusion it all seems a bit messy. I thought about the overs car and thought after sleeping on it , b
ks, I am not going to feed some flippers pocket more money when it should be going to a proper user ( driver ) because, us , as consumers are not helping if we are bending over to it.I was offered overs on my gen1 back a few year ago and didn't think twice about saying NO. No regrets too, love it..
throt said:
Yep, I agree.
Looks like I may not land a gen2 and my gen1 will be staying.
Since myself turning down a gen2 going for overs (track spec) I have come to the conclusion it all seems a bit messy. I thought about the overs car and thought after sleeping on it , bks, I am not going to feed some flippers pocket more money when it should be going to a proper user ( driver ) because, us , as consumers are not helping if we are bending over to it.
I was offered overs on my gen1 back a few year ago and didn't think twice about saying NO. No regrets too, love it..
Good on you Looks like I may not land a gen2 and my gen1 will be staying.
Since myself turning down a gen2 going for overs (track spec) I have come to the conclusion it all seems a bit messy. I thought about the overs car and thought after sleeping on it , b
ks, I am not going to feed some flippers pocket more money when it should be going to a proper user ( driver ) because, us , as consumers are not helping if we are bending over to it.I was offered overs on my gen1 back a few year ago and didn't think twice about saying NO. No regrets too, love it..
tuffer said:
throt said:
Yep, I agree.
Looks like I may not land a gen2 and my gen1 will be staying.
Since myself turning down a gen2 going for overs (track spec) I have come to the conclusion it all seems a bit messy. I thought about the overs car and thought after sleeping on it , bks, I am not going to feed some flippers pocket more money when it should be going to a proper user ( driver ) because, us , as consumers are not helping if we are bending over to it.
I was offered overs on my gen1 back a few year ago and didn't think twice about saying NO. No regrets too, love it..
Good on you Looks like I may not land a gen2 and my gen1 will be staying.
Since myself turning down a gen2 going for overs (track spec) I have come to the conclusion it all seems a bit messy. I thought about the overs car and thought after sleeping on it , b
ks, I am not going to feed some flippers pocket more money when it should be going to a proper user ( driver ) because, us , as consumers are not helping if we are bending over to it.I was offered overs on my gen1 back a few year ago and didn't think twice about saying NO. No regrets too, love it..
I think a little herbal tea and a relaxing massage (you can borrow my masseuse! ) would do a lot of people on here some good.
This thread is bad for your health!
I realise that some people are royally pissed off but have probably had previous GT cars in some cases so have drunk from the fabled font; whereas I know a guy who has bought 15 new Porsches in 13 years from the same OPC and he hasn't had an allocation as yet. Because of his cool head, good nature and nice character, he is getting a 991.2 RS next year as a thank you and all he's bought in the last 12 months is something like low spec a 718. He doesn't know it yet and he might be a member on here.
There are some decent OPC's out there and not all should be tarred with the same brush.
) would do a lot of people on here some good.This thread is bad for your health!
I realise that some people are royally pissed off but have probably had previous GT cars in some cases so have drunk from the fabled font; whereas I know a guy who has bought 15 new Porsches in 13 years from the same OPC and he hasn't had an allocation as yet. Because of his cool head, good nature and nice character, he is getting a 991.2 RS next year as a thank you and all he's bought in the last 12 months is something like low spec a 718. He doesn't know it yet and he might be a member on here.
There are some decent OPC's out there and not all should be tarred with the same brush.
Fokker said:
a guy who has bought 15 new Porsches in 13 years from the same OPC and he hasn't had an allocation as yet. Because of his cool head, good nature and nice character, he is getting a 991.2 RS next year as a thank you.
That's pretty hard to get your head round, who buys a New Porsche every 10 months ! A free RS though, not bad :-)
Porsche911R said:
That's pretty hard to get your head round, who buys a New Porsche every 10 months !
A free RS though, not bad :-)
I would say its pretty common to buy several new Porsches annually.! As an example i've bought four new Porsches from one OPC in the last six months and i suspect i'm not alone in that respect..Its not what you spend that counts...its what you lose that matters..A free RS though, not bad :-)
Taffy66 said:
I would say its pretty common to buy several new Porsches annually.! As an example i've bought four new Porsches from one OPC in the last six months and i suspect i'm not alone in that respect..Its not what you spend that counts...its what you lose that matters..
Lol I am not sure it's common to buy several new NON GT/rare Porsches annually back here in the real world :-)Taffy66 said:
I would say its pretty common to buy several new Porsches annually.! As an example i've bought four new Porsches from one OPC in the last six months and i suspect i'm not alone in that respect..Its not what you spend that counts...its what you lose that matters..
Yes and for clarity, its not every 10 months is it. As an average yes but not literally every 10 months!I'd say its very normal in a lot of situations. I've bought 6 in the past 24 months so 3 per year on average.
Fokker said:
Yes and for clarity, its not every 10 months is it. As an average yes but not literally every 10 months!
I'd say its very normal in a lot of situations. I've bought 6 in the past 24 months so 3 per year on average.
Again most have been GT cars ! not the normal stuff stated :-)I'd say its very normal in a lot of situations. I've bought 6 in the past 24 months so 3 per year on average.
Porsche911R said:
Taffy66 said:
I would say its pretty common to buy several new Porsches annually.! As an example i've bought four new Porsches from one OPC in the last six months and i suspect i'm not alone in that respect..Its not what you spend that counts...its what you lose that matters..
Lol I am not sure it's common to buy several new NON GT/rare Porsches annually back here in the real world :-)Fokker said:
It doesn't matter what they are though does it. We're talking about the fact that people tend to change pretty often.
We all know this though, most of us get bored and change.. its all about the chase.
You’re right about the chase. My family have bets on how long the GT3 will last before I start looking seriously. It’s like an addiction and the need for a fix gets shorter each time.We all know this though, most of us get bored and change.. its all about the chase.
I’m already planning the replacement to the wife’s car and will put down a deposit on a yet to be confirmed model over the next couple of weeks. I plan to use the GT3 as my daily car until Sept/Oct next year, but I think in the end I will want to put it in the garage for weekend use and then get something better as a daily. Who knows I might be wrong and decide it’s perfectly dailyable even in manual and with a wing and buckets. LOL
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