991.2 GT3 RS - Here it is
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Taffy66 said:
Digga said:
6min 56secs - only 7 seconds behind the 700hp GT2:
https://www.bridgetogantry.com/porsche-991-2-gt3rs...
They still have another day this week to try to improve that too.
If this 6' 56 secs time is correct then its an astounding result.! Even more impressive than the 6' 47 time set by the GT2.RS when you take into account the huge on-paper 180 HP and 207 Lbs/ft torque deficit..https://www.bridgetogantry.com/porsche-991-2-gt3rs...
They still have another day this week to try to improve that too.
And to cap it this figure is likely to slightly improve further end of the week...My WANT has just gone through the roof..
isaldiri said:
Digga said:
Thing is, it's amazing what a little less weight, a bit more agility and a more predictable throttle can serve up.
Or perhaps the 3rs is simply using the new special tyre that the 2rs has been smashing records in mag tests with rather than the regular n2 tyre......Does anyone know with certainty whether the 1430Kg official weight of the RS is with the WP or not.?
If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
Taffy66 said:
Does anyone know with certainty whether the 1430Kg official weight of the RS is with the WP or not.?
If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
Bar the bhp ofcourse which has more than spec.If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
It was hinted that the RS will be sub 7. Great result.
Digga said:
Could well be, but a higher-revving NA engine is a lot easier to place into corners IME. Lighter weight will help too. Nurburgring lap times in road cars seem to be less about outright power than corner speeds.
I think you might find a stickier tyre has far more impact than a tiny amount less weight (50kg if that between the 2rs and 3rs) and NA throttle control. That R tyre was 2 seconds faster than the regular N2 tyre in the latest german mag test around a 90 second lap for example. isaldiri said:
I think you might find a stickier tyre has far more impact than a tiny amount less weight (50kg if that between the 2rs and 3rs) and NA throttle control. That R tyre was 2 seconds faster than the regular N2 tyre in the latest german mag test around a 90 second lap for example.
For sure. The difference merely between Cup 2s and Trofeos is clear.
isaldiri said:
Digga said:
Nope. A mate, who's shredded both. Comprehensively, on a GT3.
What was the difference in time between the 2 he found out of interest?Of course, the Pirellis wear faster and are a lot worse in standing water, but he's uses his car predominantly for track days, so it's the extra grip he appreciates.
Taffy66 said:
Does anyone know with certainty whether the 1430Kg official weight of the RS is with the WP or not.?
If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
Don't get me started on published weights....!If its the weight for the WP car then it seems that the non WP RS is 30Kg heavier than the standard GT3..
Porsche do seem to enjoy being somewhat ambiguous with some of its spec for some reason..!
The stated weight minimum will almost certainly be for an obscure spec. So WP, PCCB, fixed buckets, no AC, no PCM, no cage, no lift, no full leather, no sports chrono.
The online configurator could easily give you an indication of as built weight as you add and remove options....
IREvans said:
Don't get me started on published weights....!
The stated weight minimum will almost certainly be for an obscure spec. So WP, PCCB, fixed buckets, no AC, no PCM, no cage, no lift, no full leather, no sports chrono.
The online configurator could easily give you an indication of as built weight as you add and remove options....
You should know by now Iwan how obsessed i am with weights of options..The previous gen 991RS was quoted as 1420kg with no WP option.The new one is 1430kg which if including full WP at nearly 30Kg saving then the non WP RS must have a lowest possible weight of 1460Kg..The stated weight minimum will almost certainly be for an obscure spec. So WP, PCCB, fixed buckets, no AC, no PCM, no cage, no lift, no full leather, no sports chrono.
The online configurator could easily give you an indication of as built weight as you add and remove options....
This is a huge 40Kg heavier than the gen 1..! This doesn't make sense to me unless the EU regulations have a new set of official parameters that car makers have to obey regarding weights of new cars..
Taffy66 said:
The previous gen 991RS was quoted as 1420kg with no WP option.The new one is 1430kg which if including full WP at nearly 30Kg saving then the non WP RS must have a lowest possible weight of 1460Kg..
This is a huge 40Kg heavier than the gen 1..! This doesn't make sense to me unless the EU regulations have a new set of official parameters that car makers have to obey regarding weights of new cars..
WP only saves 30kg when you have the cage ticked. 1420kg factory claim for the .1 RS will not include a cage (or any option that might add weight and every weight saving option). I don't think the .2 includes the lightweight battery option that was available on the .1 iirc. Per Preuninger video at Geneva, the .2 RS is supposed to be like for like 6kg lighter (non WP) and there was some reference in the mags about new rules making weights less unrealistic than they used to be.This is a huge 40Kg heavier than the gen 1..! This doesn't make sense to me unless the EU regulations have a new set of official parameters that car makers have to obey regarding weights of new cars..
Tons of kerb used, and he was on the limit many times. We will need Bravery Lessons. I went for Lizard in the end, my car is supposed to complete build this week. Fingers crossed !
This might be my last new 911 GT car to buy, a turbo version of the next car would not attract me. Mine's a keeper.
This might be my last new 911 GT car to buy, a turbo version of the next car would not attract me. Mine's a keeper.
majordad said:
Tons of kerb used, and he was on the limit many times. We will need Bravery Lessons. I went for Lizard in the end, my car is supposed to complete build this week. Fingers crossed !
This might be my last new 911 GT car to buy, a turbo version of the next car would not attract me. Mine's a keeper.
Bravery lessons indeed! This might be my last new 911 GT car to buy, a turbo version of the next car would not attract me. Mine's a keeper.
I wonder how much of the cars performance envelope (in terms of exploiting the chassis/handling) your average enthusiast owner uses? I suppose the answer to that is I wonder what said enthusiast owner could take it round the 'ring in ?
Anyone know what good drivers lap the ring in say a 991.1 GT3 RS vs the official Porsche lap time ?
majordad said:
Tons of kerb used, and he was on the limit many times. We will need Bravery Lessons.
I noticed that too. Especially the shot of the green car going through Hatzenbach. Aside from potential damage to the car - splitter, wheels, suspension parts - that size of kerb will chew you up and spit you out if you get it wrong.Cheib said:
Bravery lessons indeed!
I wonder how much of the cars performance envelope (in terms of exploiting the chassis/handling) your average enthusiast owner uses? I suppose the answer to that is I wonder what said enthusiast owner could take it round the 'ring in ?
Obviously, that varies with the individual's skill, bravery and stupidity. I wonder how much of the cars performance envelope (in terms of exploiting the chassis/handling) your average enthusiast owner uses? I suppose the answer to that is I wonder what said enthusiast owner could take it round the 'ring in ?
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