991.2 GT3 RS - Here it is
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DeltaOne said:
Spot on. Its not that different to the "I spec PCCB's because of the difference in weight as I turn the corner into Tesco" thread elsewhere. This is people often aspire to the latest/greatest etc, and I'm definitely one of them, but you might as well admit that and get on with it.
What's interesting to watch is the speed of the falling 2RS (I mean the speed of the falling price not of the car itself!). I know of at least one very early car which traded at 585k to the second owner, but now cars are appearing under 450k retail, which for those owned by the dealers not on SOR would put them at or even under 400 for trade. Amusingly I was offered a 2RS last week at 475 with the OPC insisting it "should really be 495", which was clearly a lie as others were available for less than 475 elsewhere, let alone their 495 dream. This week the same dealer is talking 50k cheaper so maybe the penny is dropping.
Its quite a correction to watch, and caused totally by mad early prices - first owners of 2RS shouldn't care as they a) still have the car and b) are in the money anyway, people who bought in the overs market (flipees?!) shouldn't care because they know what they're doing when they pay inflated numbers, so that just leaves the poor traders who might be left holding the baby. We can reserve our sympathy for them.....
I would say all are on SOR, no traders that daft.What's interesting to watch is the speed of the falling 2RS (I mean the speed of the falling price not of the car itself!). I know of at least one very early car which traded at 585k to the second owner, but now cars are appearing under 450k retail, which for those owned by the dealers not on SOR would put them at or even under 400 for trade. Amusingly I was offered a 2RS last week at 475 with the OPC insisting it "should really be 495", which was clearly a lie as others were available for less than 475 elsewhere, let alone their 495 dream. This week the same dealer is talking 50k cheaper so maybe the penny is dropping.
Its quite a correction to watch, and caused totally by mad early prices - first owners of 2RS shouldn't care as they a) still have the car and b) are in the money anyway, people who bought in the overs market (flipees?!) shouldn't care because they know what they're doing when they pay inflated numbers, so that just leaves the poor traders who might be left holding the baby. We can reserve our sympathy for them.....
PDKSport said:
I don't know how some people get as many GT cars as they want. At the dealership a couple of days ago and the salesman was delighted to point out a customer who he had supplied (all around the same time) a GT4, GT3RS and a Boxster Spyder. He went on to say he was taking the RS and Spyder back and giving him a WP RS. Make one customer happy 4 times or 4 customers happy once? I feel you should be offered one GT car at a time.
The rear PORSCHE decal came from Highgate House, £50 Matt or Gloss.
Cheers.
Of course for all these cars their respective LOI's would probably have been submitted before all the new GT car price madness started with the 991 GT3.1, when not so many people were queuing up to buy them in the first place. The rear PORSCHE decal came from Highgate House, £50 Matt or Gloss.
Cheers.
Back then OPCs would happily accept as many LOIs as you wanted to give them, and some OPCs did actually honour the first come first served rule, especially if you'd been buying and losing money on their cars previously.
Also the Spyder was/is not considered a GT car, and hardly any hype around it when it came out as I remember, the original 987 version was hard to sell also I believe.
Ducati0 said:
Surely everybody is entitled to do what they want with their hard earned ? At some point in our lives we all have some luck (in different ways) but that doesn’t mean that in most situations “the others” have a view what you should do with your luck/gain. In some cases people will sell because of unforeseen circumstances, equally some might be happy just to use 200-400 miles per year & enjoy seeing it in their garage & knowing they can go for a drive whenever they want to. I don’t get the people that constantly think you should do x,y & z with the money you have worked hard for.
This. Couldn’t agree more. People can spend their money on whatever they like - it’s their money. And they can sell whatever they like - it’s their car. If you don’t want to play the games because you don’t like then, it’s your choice. I respect all choices but I am bored of people making excuses / trying to justify what they do.blackmamba said:
This. Couldn’t agree more. People can spend their money on whatever they like - it’s their money. And they can sell whatever they like - it’s their car. If you don’t want to play the games because you don’t like then, it’s your choice. I respect all choices but I am bored of people making excuses / trying to justify what they do.
I second that totally! This thread has been high jacked enough with bad feeling that divides everyone. Can we maybe get back to what's important and more interesting IMO. For starters can anyone tell me what their delivery mileage was please. I went to see mine at Reading yesterday and it had 22 miles on the clock, but when I went last week to see the car for the first time after PDI it had 12 miles. So in a week after it was PDI checked it now has another 10 miles. It's not a lot but it still has another week there for the Xpel protection to go on. It could potentially have more. It just seems odd. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any info will be much appreciated. Happy driving all!
Fireblade007 said:
I second that totally! This thread has been high jacked enough with bad feeling that divides everyone. Can we maybe get back to what's important and more interesting IMO.
For starters can anyone tell me what their delivery mileage was please. I went to see mine at Reading yesterday and it had 22 miles on the clock, but when I went last week to see the car for the first time after PDI it had 12 miles. So in a week after it was PDI checked it now has another 10 miles. It's not a lot but it still has another week there for the Xpel protection to go on. It could potentially have more. It just seems odd. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any info will be much appreciated. Happy driving all!
Saw mine yesterday at dealership & going on trailer for PPF Saturday, will be furious if this increases more than .1 of a mile, as there will be no need for it. For starters can anyone tell me what their delivery mileage was please. I went to see mine at Reading yesterday and it had 22 miles on the clock, but when I went last week to see the car for the first time after PDI it had 12 miles. So in a week after it was PDI checked it now has another 10 miles. It's not a lot but it still has another week there for the Xpel protection to go on. It could potentially have more. It just seems odd. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any info will be much appreciated. Happy driving all!
Fireblade007 said:
I second that totally! This thread has been high jacked enough with bad feeling that divides everyone. Can we maybe get back to what's important and more interesting IMO.
For starters can anyone tell me what their delivery mileage was please. I went to see mine at Reading yesterday and it had 22 miles on the clock, but when I went last week to see the car for the first time after PDI it had 12 miles. So in a week after it was PDI checked it now has another 10 miles. It's not a lot but it still has another week there for the Xpel protection to go on. It could potentially have more. It just seems odd. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any info will be much appreciated. Happy driving all!
It's a long way to the petrol station if you have not been in a RS before :-) For starters can anyone tell me what their delivery mileage was please. I went to see mine at Reading yesterday and it had 22 miles on the clock, but when I went last week to see the car for the first time after PDI it had 12 miles. So in a week after it was PDI checked it now has another 10 miles. It's not a lot but it still has another week there for the Xpel protection to go on. It could potentially have more. It just seems odd. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Any info will be much appreciated. Happy driving all!
Fireblade007 said:
Mileage worries...
Guys, I am not sure if you know this but Porsche have a distribution centre not far from Reading where they store cars. I work in Calcot and I see new Porsche's crossing junction 12 roundabout every morning and evening as I head down the M4. This distribution centre is around 5 miles away from Porsche Reading so a trip there and back would probably explain the 10 mile addition to your cars when you collect them from OPC Reading.
Hope this info helps you all.
Ducati0 said:
Saw mine yesterday at dealership & going on trailer for PPF Saturday, will be furious if this increases more than .1 of a mile, as there will be no need for it.
Wow 29 miles! I thought mine was excessive. This cannot be right surely? I might be a bit pedantic but I have a suspicion that some bods are having a jolly at our expense😉. Then again, to put my reasonable hat on, it could just be road testing? blackmamba said:
I don’t see how p/x’ing your GT3 (at list) to the OPC (who will sell at market) and give you a GT3RS allocation (at list ie under market) is not flipping? It’s the same bandwagon / circus etc. Just because the car has 1000 miles rather than 500 doesn’t make a difference IMO.
^ exactly this. Being sanctimonious about flipping while doing in effect the same just 6 months later and a couple of hundred miles is fairly amusing.Fireblade007 said:
Wow 29 miles! I thought mine was excessive. This cannot be right surely? I might be a bit pedantic but I have a suspicion that some bods are having a jolly at our expense??. Then again, to put my reasonable hat on, it could just be road testing?
Is this unusual ? Haven’t got a clue what it normally is ? isaldiri said:
blackmamba said:
I don’t see how p/x’ing your GT3 (at list) to the OPC (who will sell at market) and give you a GT3RS allocation (at list ie under market) is not flipping? It’s the same bandwagon / circus etc. Just because the car has 1000 miles rather than 500 doesn’t make a difference IMO.
^ exactly this. Being sanctimonious about flipping while doing in effect the same just 6 months later and a couple of hundred miles is fairly amusing..Buyer A takes it home,parks it in his garage, and in a few weeks drives it to an independent and sells it for a £40k profit = Flipper.
Buyer B takes it home, runs it in, tracks it and in 18 mths and 3.5K gets offered an RS if he sells his GT3 back in p/x for list(No profit)..=True enthusiast and not a Flipper..
Simples...!!
v8ksn said:
Please see my post above.
Many thanks for the info. I'm not really sure how I feel about that to be honest. The thought that they're driving the cars 10 miles there and back. Are the cars covered somehow as they must be susceptible to stone chips surely? In any case that would explain the mileage. Much appreciated Taffy66 said:
Two totally different scenarios in my book..Two buyers pick up a new GT3 each from their OPCs on the same day after a lengthy wait.
.Buyer A takes it home,parks it in his garage, and in a few weeks drives it to an independent and sells it for a £40k profit = Flipper.
Buyer B takes it home, runs it in, tracks it and in 18 mths and 3.5K gets offered an RS if he sells his GT3 back in p/x for list(No profit)..=True enthusiast and not a Flipper..
Simples...!!
Totally agree with B, that is me, never have i sold a car and actually made money, if i can get access to the latest GT products with PX my GT current car then im a happy chap, if the market takes a nose dive and i loose some doe but still get the new GT product guess what.. still a happy fella and ill drive the nuts off it aswell.Buyer A takes it home,parks it in his garage, and in a few weeks drives it to an independent and sells it for a £40k profit = Flipper.
Buyer B takes it home, runs it in, tracks it and in 18 mths and 3.5K gets offered an RS if he sells his GT3 back in p/x for list(No profit)..=True enthusiast and not a Flipper..
Simples...!!
To the guys out there who have already taken delivery. First off I hope you enjoy your cars in good health no matter what fashion or choice that takes. Secondly, when you went along to take delivery of your shiny new GT cars did any of you get any gifts of any kind? Reason being I've noticed on a few of the American forums that the dealers send a miniature model of the GT3RS to their home address prior to their delivery and other goodies on the day. Has anyone else experienced this? I definitely have not received a model. Is it just the American dealers as some pay overs even from OPC?
Fireblade007 said:
To the guys out there who have already taken delivery. First off I hope you enjoy your cars in good health no matter what fashion or choice that takes. Secondly, when you went along to take delivery of your shiny new GT cars did any of you get any gifts of any kind? Reason being I've noticed on a few of the American forums that the dealers send a miniature model of the GT3RS to their home address prior to their delivery and other goodies on the day. Has anyone else experienced this? I definitely have not received a model. Is it just the American dealers as some pay overs even from OPC?
HAHAHAHAHAHA.... you/we will be lucky to get a coffee cup.! Im not expecting anything other than that OR i my push for a 'Large' mug, they are totally useless gifts that Porsche give out, could at least throw some all weather mats in! When i pick up my .2 GTS i asked for all weather mats, to be presented with a chip and pin machineGassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff