Discussion
Look for the 911 Speedster to debut late this year as a 2019 model. An appearance at either the Paris auto show in October or the Los Angeles auto show the following month is a strong possibility.
The Speedsters reconnect the 911 to classics like the original 356 Speedster and later 550. The cars are strict two-seaters and come loaded with the 911's top-shelf options. They also tend to feature a few retro items.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1116225_2019-p...
The Speedsters reconnect the 911 to classics like the original 356 Speedster and later 550. The cars are strict two-seaters and come loaded with the 911's top-shelf options. They also tend to feature a few retro items.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1116225_2019-p...
Nice video of the Speedster with Andreas Preuninger (interviewed by Henry Catchpole) at Goodwood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJHlNGRz5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJHlNGRz5Q
Twinfan said:
He said it was "a 991R engine because that was what he had on the shelf, it could just have easily been a 991.2 GT3 engine or an RS engine".
Right.. but they just built this and announced it 2months ago - and its not like they couldn't have put the Gen2 engine in? Which has been available for more than a year?Anyway - this guys sometimes speaks in riddles - he could be talking about that specific build for the concept - but any production run could be different anyway.
TDT said:
Right.. but they just built this and announced it 2months ago - and its not like they couldn't have put the Gen2 engine in? Which has been available for more than a year?
Anyway - this guys sometimes speaks in riddles - he could be talking about that specific build for the concept - but any production run could be different anyway.
He was talking specifically about that car. A production version is not yet signed off, so take the spec of the concept with a pinch of salt. He says some details e.g. the mirrors and bonnet positioned fuel filler wouldn't make it to any production version.Anyway - this guys sometimes speaks in riddles - he could be talking about that specific build for the concept - but any production run could be different anyway.
I suspect the engine is from a 911R mule that has since been stripped for parts, maybe even the suspension came from it too.
Twinfan said:
Nice video of the Speedster with Andreas Preuninger (interviewed by Henry Catchpole) at Goodwood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJHlNGRz5Q
Good watch!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJHlNGRz5Q
Twinfan said:
He was talking specifically about that car. A production version is not yet signed off, so take the spec of the concept with a pinch of salt. He says some details e.g. the mirrors and bonnet positioned fuel filler wouldn't make it to any production version.
In my opinion. They have done this the other way round. In so much as the what looks like the finished car has been seen testing for quite some time round the ring etc. So they will have a good idea as to what they are going with. Also it did not take long for the 2RS to make the jump from going round the ring to going on the Config.....Don't see the finished car having the R engine. As good as the R engine is in the R with its SMFW. The 4.0s post GT3.2 are a good step up tech wise.CitySlicker said:
What do you guys think would be better, 911r or gt3 Gen2 engine?
I posted in another thread that I was chatting to someone at the weekend whose company build's 911 engines for motorsport amongst other things. His feeling was that most people (I'm very happy to include myself in this) don't really appreciate how special the 991.2 GT3 engine is.....much more of a race car engine than a normal road car engine which is really what the 911R's engine is.You also have the early reviews of journalists like Chris Harris, Jethro Bovingdon or Henry Catchpole who have all raved about the 991.2 GT3's engine and how much better it is than the older engine. I can't comment as never driven a car with the old engine but the new one puts a massive smile on my face whenever I open the taps!
Cheib said:
I posted in another thread that I was chatting to someone at the weekend whose company build's 911 engines for motorsport amongst other things. His feeling was that most people (I'm very happy to include myself in this) don't really appreciate how special the 991.2 GT3 engine is.....much more of a race car engine than a normal road car engine which is really what the 911R's engine is.
But the R engine at that point in time, was as to what the GT3.2 engine is now in relation to the engine in the race cars. Don't forget that the race engines are still a bit different the one in the 991RSR for example has single ring pistons, and requires a rebuild after so many hrs.... This would never fly in a road car.Fully agree that in the GT3.2 and the RS.2 its epic. But to be honest I thought the 3.8 in the 991.1GT3 was something very special also. Have a look at this from 38 Secs in....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8
Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 24th July 10:14
APOLO1 said:
Cheib said:
I posted in another thread that I was chatting to someone at the weekend whose company build's 911 engines for motorsport amongst other things. His feeling was that most people (I'm very happy to include myself in this) don't really appreciate how special the 991.2 GT3 engine is.....much more of a race car engine than a normal road car engine which is really what the 911R's engine is.
But the R engine at that point in time, was as to what the GT3.2 engine is now in relation to the engine in the race cars. Don't forget that the race engines are still a bit different the one in the 991RSR for example has single ring pistons, and requires a rebuild after so many hrs.... This would never fly in a road car.Fully agree that in the GT3.2 and the RS.2 its epic. But to be honest I thought the 3.8 in the 991.1GT3 was something very special also. Have a look at this from 38 Secs in....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8
Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 24th July 10:14
When you look at that vid it makes you appreciate how good the .1 was/is. Also makes you appreciate how Porsche is so very good at pushing the game on...lots of small differences can end up making quite a big difference. Certainly seems to be the case with the new RS....can't remember which jounro it was that said "When we turned up to drive the 991.2 GT3 RS we couldn't imagine how they would make it any better....when we left we couldn't believe how much better it was"....or something along those lines!
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Very much this. The modification from .1rs to .2gt3 of the 9A1 really isn't a massive change as is sometimes made out. And racecar like engines tend to need adjustment on fixed valvetrains as mileage increases. It's not always a good thing 'because race car'.....CitySlicker said:
I wonder if the speedster will be the last open top, naturally aspirated manual car.
I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
Maybe the 718 Spyder....lots of speculation that the GT4 and Spyder will be N/A....I reckon there’s a very good chance it will be turbocharged, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
RSVP911 said:
Cheib said:
Maybe the 718 Spyder....lots of speculation that the GT4 and Spyder will be N/A....I reckon there’s a very good chance it will be turbocharged,
Let’s hope not 
What about other marques? I gusss only American manufacturers will be sticking to NA engines for a few more years (bar select models from Europeans) but will they have the option for a manual gearbox. Does anyone know any?
Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff