991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??
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Slippydiff said:
5 X 996 GT3's, never had a coolant pipe failure, 2 x 996 GT2's, never had a coolant pipe failure, 2 X 997 GT3's, never had a coolant pipe failure.
9 X Mezger engined cars, never had a cam bolt come loose/ never binned an engine as result.
Center lock failures ? Fair enough, and the factory revised the design/torqueing procedure....
Brake tappets ??? Pucks I think is the word you're looking for... My guess is the average GT Porsche road car brakes take more abuse than any other road car, as most owners will ditch the standard pads at the faintest sniff of a trackday, the default replacement track worthy pads are effectively endurance race items from Pagid etc, such pads are designed to work at elevated temperatures that Brembo didn't factor into the original design of what was a road car caliper, but the fact it ended up being utilised on the race cars tells you how good a design it was in reality.
Never let the facts get in the way of of a good alarmist post eh ?
Suggest you quit posting inaccurate BS ...
Recently as many as 2 track days a month
Never had puck failures
Never had coolant pipe failures
Never had calliper issues
Never had brake pad issues
Never had brake issues
Never had suspension issues
Never had cam bolt issues
Never had centre lock failures
Never had £10, £20, or £30k refresh bills.
...however, I regularly service the cars as most regular users do. I do modify some components - basically brakes pads/discs - as the earlier cars std items are not up to fast track use (maybe ok for newbies).
A smart buyer should not be buying a unmaintained car with £20k refresh bill - maybe an unsmart buyer would. Most GT3 buyers are smart in my experience - especially the ones looking at the earlier cars
Over 100,000 miles of track laps in various GT3’s including 24 hour races. Over 50 race wins and 12 lap records. During that time some engine buzzes to over 10,000 rpm and several incidents of heavy contact. The only problems experienced were a faulty fuel pump and a holed rad ( my fault). Also over 100,000 road miles in various GT3’s. Never a problem
These cars have incredible performance capabilities and are about as bullet proof as you can get. The very best and most reliable race and road cars that I have ever driven. The GT3 is the only road car that I’ve driven that will happily lap any race track at 10/10th and get you home again without any fuss or issues at all. Truly amazing cars.
These cars have incredible performance capabilities and are about as bullet proof as you can get. The very best and most reliable race and road cars that I have ever driven. The GT3 is the only road car that I’ve driven that will happily lap any race track at 10/10th and get you home again without any fuss or issues at all. Truly amazing cars.
People coming on here and muddying the waters of wild speculation and rumour with their extensive experience. 
LaSource said:
Never had coolant pipe failures
Serious question; have you pinned or welded any of yours? I was always very much concerned that I did not want to be 'that' guy whose car blew coolant onto a track (especially the Nordschleife) and cause other people to crash.Digga said:
Serious question; have you pinned or welded any of yours? I was always very much concerned that I did not want to be 'that' guy whose car blew coolant onto a track (especially the Nordschleife) and cause other people to crash.
Its on my mind and will defo do next time the engine comes out (though I've only had to drop the engine once in 10 years!). My impression is that although it is a known risk, it seems to have higher occurrences in very hot climes e.g US, ME - having said that our current heat wave is probably not much different! Overall in my man maths the risk posed seems to be no higher than any car blowing a coolant hose on any track day.LaSource said:
Digga said:
Serious question; have you pinned or welded any of yours? I was always very much concerned that I did not want to be 'that' guy whose car blew coolant onto a track (especially the Nordschleife) and cause other people to crash.
Its on my mind and will defo do next time the engine comes out (though I've only had to drop the engine once in 10 years!). My impression is that although it is a known risk, it seems to have higher occurrences in very hot climes e.g US, ME - having said that our current heat wave is probably not much different! Overall in my man maths the risk posed seems to be no higher than any car blowing a coolant hose on any track day.Had mine pinned by Sports & Classic which IIRC is also what Sharkwerks recommend in USA too.
Jim1556 said:
Digga said:
Had mine pinned by Sports & Classic which IIRC is also what Sharkwerks recommend in USA too.
Cost to pin?ETA good link on Sharkwerks site. It's for a turbo but they're all the same WRT the coolant: http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/technical-articles/3...
Edited by Digga on Tuesday 10th July 12:09
Digga said:
Jim1556 said:
Digga said:
Had mine pinned by Sports & Classic which IIRC is also what Sharkwerks recommend in USA too.
Cost to pin?ETA good link on Sharkwerks site. It's for a turbo but they're all the same WRT the coolant: http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/technical-articles/3...
Edited by Digga on Tuesday 10th July 12:09
hunter 66 said:
Yes , 1 RSR ( distributor issue led to only 1 plug firing , hence piston out the block stuff ) , I RS ( valve through piston on Banking ) ...
Be fair man,all self inflicted.You get piston tip when only one plug fires and the valve through the piston is well errmmm,to much beer or to many delicious steaks or steaks with surf,or good red wine,or to many florida onions or the florida sunEdited by hunter 66 on Tuesday 10th July 10:59
Edited by hunter 66 on Tuesday 10th July 11:24
,or consult your race engineer;)My 'position' as a buyer....
So reading all the abve .....The way I see it ;
GT3 RS values are NOT going up and they're NOT staying put either... So they're only going ONE way and most people seem to think they are doing the same... Ok, so most of them don't own one themselves...
If there was only 3 or 4 for sale, yes the prices may stay up here, but obviously the price slide can surely only accelerate once owners realise its not a one way bet and motoring thats paid for ! ESP after such a long rise - see bitcoin..... It seems there's not enough people want to keep the cars at he moment....
I see a car advertised as the last manual with JZM or similar.....Yes perhaps it is the "last manual" (latest perhaps) last - probably not .....
Question: What prices do you know HAVE been paid for GT3 RS , recently? Someone must have bought recently? If you have skin in the game i can appreciate that you may not want to say, but if you do, well that's very decent...
Does anyone know how many 991.1 GT3 and 991.1 GT3 RS were built for UK
Does anyone know how many 991.2 GT3 and 991.2 GT3RS were built for uk ?
Looking at TROVIT cars, you can see how much the cars have been discounted recently.... It shows you the drop...If i had a car and was gonna keep it 'for ever' it wouldnt bother me , but if i was selling, looking to sel soon l, or chop it in for the latest new GT3 RS , I would be wondering where prices were going...
As i say, Im looking to buy, buti cant see the point immediately when autumns round the corner, and the prices are at worst creeping down....
So reading all the abve .....The way I see it ;
GT3 RS values are NOT going up and they're NOT staying put either... So they're only going ONE way and most people seem to think they are doing the same... Ok, so most of them don't own one themselves...
If there was only 3 or 4 for sale, yes the prices may stay up here, but obviously the price slide can surely only accelerate once owners realise its not a one way bet and motoring thats paid for ! ESP after such a long rise - see bitcoin..... It seems there's not enough people want to keep the cars at he moment....
I see a car advertised as the last manual with JZM or similar.....Yes perhaps it is the "last manual" (latest perhaps) last - probably not .....
Question: What prices do you know HAVE been paid for GT3 RS , recently? Someone must have bought recently? If you have skin in the game i can appreciate that you may not want to say, but if you do, well that's very decent...
Does anyone know how many 991.1 GT3 and 991.1 GT3 RS were built for UK
Does anyone know how many 991.2 GT3 and 991.2 GT3RS were built for uk ?
Looking at TROVIT cars, you can see how much the cars have been discounted recently.... It shows you the drop...If i had a car and was gonna keep it 'for ever' it wouldnt bother me , but if i was selling, looking to sel soon l, or chop it in for the latest new GT3 RS , I would be wondering where prices were going...
As i say, Im looking to buy, buti cant see the point immediately when autumns round the corner, and the prices are at worst creeping down....
Yep. I think that there are 2 different GT3 and RS markets. Pre 991 - which i think will continue to rise whatever, and 991 onwards which will work on an overs initially until the next shiny version then a reasonably slow decline depending on numbers. No doubt things could become even more extreme with changes in the genuine driving enthusiast v Value/shiny thing window licker matrix
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