991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??

991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??

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MartinRS2K

598 posts

119 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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GT4RS said:
Let’s assume its cap clean at 159k trade, that would mean a dealer after there service costs, tyres, brakes, years warranty, full detail, profit, vat on profit would still need to price this car far lower than the 2000 miles car recently sold by Jzm for around 166k and the 2000 mile car currently for sale a Porsche Glasgow at 169k, please note that’s the current advertised price at Glasgow to, so there would be room for negotiations and it would also come with a two year warranty.

I’m afraid your numbers don’t stack up,
My mate had the Purple .1 3RS from Glasgow while he waited for his .2 GT3 to arrive. It was priced at £195k in May and then dropped to £189k in July so this is a big drop since then with no more miles added to the car

giles panizzi

323 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Expensive way to get into a 991.2 GT3 no doubt!!

Reverse overs strikes again.....

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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n12maser said:
Where is the idea that the new 4.0 GT4 might be unlimited production coming from, or is it just a rumour?
Unlimited means around c 600 like the 981.

GT4RS

4,428 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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av185 said:
n12maser said:
Where is the idea that the new 4.0 GT4 might be unlimited production coming from, or is it just a rumour?
Unlimited means around c 600 like the 981.
I would have to agree, they will restrict supply.

No need to produce plenty, shame as this would allow others to enjoy one.

They unlimit it, they will kill 991 gt3.2 values over night.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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GT4RS said:
They unlimit it, they will kill 991 gt3.2 values over night.
GT3 values would be unaffected. Different car different price.

981 GT4 values would be hit hardest.

giles panizzi

323 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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718 GT4 will be £85 -90k if 4.0. Flipper spec will be £125k+

MDL111

6,951 posts

177 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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n12maser said:
Where is the idea that the new 4.0 GT4 might be unlimited production coming from, or is it just a rumour?

E.g. are Porsche building more factories?
I would highly doubt that as long as they can sell higher margin cars. They will be truly unlimited again once the whole car market retracts - until then great marketing and a great way to sell you multiple higher mating cars to get one of these (or not get one as it were)

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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£75k max.

£6k ceramics needless like the 981 and won't add much value.

Flippers spec £85k max.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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I saw a very nice 991.2GT3.RS at my local OPC on monday in Miami blue..i much preferred it to the LG one they had there, and that's coming from someone who normally isn't overly keen MB in normal Porsches.It had the standard interior with plastic dash and door tops and i really liked it.The plastic seemed extremely high quality and imbued the RS with a more workman like racer feel compared to plush deviated stitched leather.
If i get a WP RS next year i'm tempted to skip the £2K+ leather for a more purposeful interior.

Any thoughts on this..?

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Poverty spec is still very good and looks good ...... can also spec Roll cage delete , for LWT , haha .

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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hunter 66 said:
Poverty spec is still very good and looks good ...... can also spec Roll cage delete , for LWT , haha .
best to spec a cage then take it out, you then have options and it only take 2 hours to remove.

adding a cage is not as easy if CS prices or cars end up sort after or easier to sell. but taking a cage out is simples.

If you go cage delete though you should go, lift delete, LED delete, Bose delete, leather delete. I do fancy a car like that then going further with my own weight savings, but they are very hard to sell.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 12th September 09:08

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
best to spec a cage then take it out, you then have options and it only take 2 hours to remove.

adding a cage is not as easy if CS prices or cars end up sort after or easier to sell. but taking a cage out is simples.

If you go cage delete though you should go, lift delete, LED delete, Bose delete, leather delete. I do fancy a car like that then going further with my own weight savings, but they are very hard to sell.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 12th September 09:08
I wonder how many people on here realise that if you spec Clubsport, you do not get the leather in the rear even when you tick the £2K+ leather option..Says it all really..!

Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Probaby the way i'd go also. The povety spec interior in a modern RS is hardly a austere. Try sitting in a cup car. Of course, the 'next shiny thing' brigade would be horrified but the car wouldnt drive any better with contrasting stitching.

I was at an OPC on Saturday. 2 x 991RS's in silver next ro each other, both simialr milage - very low. The 991 £175K, the 991.2, £295K. A graphic testament of human stupidity if ever one was needed - which is probably isnt.

PS2018

323 posts

73 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Wow! Wish there was a way on those 2 cars to pay £175k at the same time as going short at £295k!

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
best to spec a cage then take it out, you then have options and it only take 2 hours to remove.

adding a cage is not as easy if CS prices or cars end up sort after or easier to sell. but taking a cage out is simples.

If you go cage delete though you should go, lift delete, LED delete, Bose delete, leather delete. I do fancy a car like that then going further with my own weight savings, but they are very hard to sell.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 12th September 09:08
But if you land up selling it back to the supplying OPC for list to get the latest version, then it makes no difference what option boxes you've ticked..
A flipper on the other hand needs to tick all the 'luxury' boxes to ease resale and increase profit..I spec my cars for my driving enjoyment and have precisely zero interest in 'flipping'..!

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Steve Rance said:
Probaby the way i'd go also. The povety spec interior in a modern RS is hardly a austere. Try sitting in a cup car. Of course, the 'next shiny thing' brigade would be horrified but the car wouldnt drive any better with contrasting stitching.

I was at an OPC on Saturday. 2 x 991RS's in silver next ro each other, both simialr milage - very low. The 991 £175K, the 991.2, £295K. A graphic testament of human stupidity if ever one was needed - which is probably isnt.
Some people seem to have more money than sense..I suppose it depends on how someone made his money in the first place to be able to afford nice cars..
All private sports/super cars are funded out of income where the income tax has already been taken out..This is true whether you buy it outright or finance it.It needs 40% more wages/earnings/pre-tax profits than the cost of the car to pay for it.
If someone has inherited a fortune built on someone else's hard graft and income tax receipts then wasting money becomes much easier to stomach..Same goes for Lottery winners etc.
This is why i won't tolerate huge depreciation on my private car purchases as its a constant reminder that a slice of my working life just went up in smoke.
I have never flipped a car for profit and consequently will never give my hard earned money to a greedy 'flipper' even out of preserving my pride..

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Taffy66 said:
But if you land up selling it back to the supplying OPC for list to get the latest version, then it makes no difference what option boxes you've ticked..
A flipper on the other hand needs to tick all the 'luxury' boxes to ease resale and increase profit..I spec my cars for my driving enjoyment and have precisely zero interest in 'flipping'..!
I am not sure I want the latest Version now, I think we could be at the top of the game for a NA Manual car, time will tell I guess if manuals carry on in GT3 and if NA engines do, what we do know is they now have extra filters and MOT are more strict on new cars, ie you cannot fit an exhaust etc etc.
So the current car might well be the best we can get going forward, I cannot fault it and that's saying some thing ! bar the price of the things.

the only car which interest me is the new GT4 if it's £75k as it free's up some cash from the GT3 as I really want an Exige 410 Sport.

Depends on GT4 spec and price, but if it's 85% of a GT3 I would take the jump downwards to allow me to get a 410 Sport Exige.

As for leather not in the back of a CS, lol I have never looked :-) but I am sure I can feel the stiffer chassis with the cage in.

Cheib

23,256 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Taffy66 said:
I saw a very nice 991.2GT3.RS at my local OPC on monday in Miami blue..i much preferred it to the LG one they had there, and that's coming from someone who normally isn't overly keen MB in normal Porsches.It had the standard interior with plastic dash and door tops and i really liked it.The plastic seemed extremely high quality and imbued the RS with a more workman like racer feel compared to plush deviated stitched leather.
If i get a WP RS next year i'm tempted to skip the £2K+ leather for a more purposeful interior.

Any thoughts on this..?
Spec it for yourself. The costs/benefits of deviated stitching when it comes to selling the car will be largely immaterial when it comes to the overall running costs/economics of owning a car like this for a few years.

I'm one of the silly buggers that ticked the coloured deviated stitching box in my GT3 (yellow in my case)....I love how the interior looks but it was a daft thing to do financially.

Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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To be fair you probably wont feel any difference chassis wise as its only bolted in anyway. Useful if you are tracking the car. My 997.1 CS came with the harnesses and extinguisher still in thier boxes. The original owner specced club sport but never trackd the car. Fair enough but it does seem a little weird

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Cheib said:
Spec it for yourself. The costs/benefits of deviated stitching when it comes to selling the car will be largely immaterial when it comes to the overall running costs/economics of owning a car like this for a few years.

I'm one of the silly buggers that ticked the coloured deviated stitching box in my GT3 (yellow in my case)....I love how the interior looks but it was a daft thing to do financially.
I did the same on my GT3 and zero regrets and if i spec a new GT3 ever again i would still pay for leather..In contrast due to the more focussed track creds of the RS the leather seems superfluous.Leather seems more important in a more road driving biased GT3 or is it a phase i'm going through..!
The cost of £2K is somewhat irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, it just really surprised me how purposeful the standard interior looked in the RS..

Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 12th September 11:55