991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??
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hunter 66 said:
No Way ....
Well, I guess the engine in mine might have still been ok if it stalled before going upside down If he has another one with a straight shell and a donor for other parts, he’d have a complete car again. At the time they were worth about 130-150k I think. I paid 95k from an OPC 4 months earlier (just before the market started to go crazy) - actually the car was in my possession for 4 months to the day
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I’m sure this car was advertised for 200k recently.
I’m sure this car was advertised for 200k recently.
hunter 66 said:
Rather surprised that Sport Auto weighed the Performante at 1556Kg when the official kerb weight is only 1382Kg.Or is this the dry weight ?
Taffy66 said:
I agree if you take current asking prices for the cars above into account, the 991.1 GT3 RS makes the most sense if you intend to track it..I think there is going to be a downwards price correction on the new RS over the coming months.
Rather surprised that Sport Auto weighed the Performante at 1556Kg when the official kerb weight is only 1382Kg.Or is this the dry weight ?
How the hell do you know there will be a price correction down!?? Can’t stand this total nonsece of talking prices down! What clear evidence do you have to back up these claims? Let me tell you again there is a strong chance of not seeing a second batch of .2GT3-RS, not sure what franchise dealer keeps telling youthere coming? they are blowing smoke up your.... Rather surprised that Sport Auto weighed the Performante at 1556Kg when the official kerb weight is only 1382Kg.Or is this the dry weight ?
I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
cormeist said:
How the hell do you know there will be a price correction down!?? Can’t stand this total nonsece of talking prices down! What clear evidence do you have to back up these claims? Let me tell you again there is a strong chance of not seeing a second batch of .2GT3-RS, not sure what franchise dealer keeps telling youthere coming? they are blowing smoke up your....
I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
Charming as usual. I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
cormeist said:
How the hell do you know there will be a price correction down!?? Can’t stand this total nonsece of talking prices down! What clear evidence do you have to back up these claims? Let me tell you again there is a strong chance of not seeing a second batch of .2GT3-RS, not sure what franchise
Do you not think that Supply v Demand has the biggest influence on a vehicle like the 3RS. Ie more supply the price will come down. There are around what 130? 3RSs at present. What do you think will happened to used prices if this amount increases. As for being no more. Then that will mean that the Speedster is not going to happen. Also dealers in EU have already taken in part Exs and committed to 3RS cars for next year. Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 19th September 10:03
cormeist said:
How the hell do you know there will be a price correction down!?? Can’t stand this total nonsece of talking prices down! What clear evidence do you have to back up these claims? Let me tell you again there is a strong chance of not seeing a second batch of .2GT3-RS, not sure what franchise dealer keeps telling youthere coming? they are blowing smoke up your....
I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
Apologies if i've touched a raw nerve.! I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
I had a long conversation with my DP only yesterday, and he clearly stated that 991.2 GT3 RS prices are dropping on a daily basis and will continue to drop in the next few months.This can only be exasperated when the second batch will arrive next spring..
At the risk of touching another raw nerve, as you're obviously concerned with the falling value of your RS may i suggest you sell it now where you'll still reap a significant profit.
I have a new GT3 which are also falling in value and difficult to shift at current asking prices..Do i give a damn...no way..! as surprise,surprise i'm one of the few who bought it for driving enjoyment.
Taffy66 said:
cormeist said:
How the hell do you know there will be a price correction down!?? Can’t stand this total nonsece of talking prices down! What clear evidence do you have to back up these claims? Let me tell you again there is a strong chance of not seeing a second batch of .2GT3-RS, not sure what franchise dealer keeps telling youthere coming? they are blowing smoke up your....
I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
Apologies if i've touched a raw nerve.! I had option of waiting for the WP pack car but even then my CP said they were not really positive as the WLTP regs
I had a long conversation with my DP only yesterday, and he clearly stated that 991.2 GT3 RS prices are dropping on a daily basis and will continue to drop in the next few months.This can only be exasperated when the second batch will arrive next spring..
At the risk of touching another raw nerve, as you're obviously concerned with the falling value of your RS may i suggest you sell it now where you'll still reap a significant profit.
I have a new GT3 which are also falling in value and difficult to shift at current asking prices..Do i give a damn...no way..! as surprise,surprise i'm one of the few who bought it for driving enjoyment.
Ps. Enjoy driving it as intended
OPC has a 991.2 3RS for £239k so def a drop from the org £310k not selling prices, then the few £265k prices which lasted a few months, we do have cars now at much lower prices and being sold off book even lower.
As others have said 991.1 RS are dropping weakly atm and most SOR cars from OPC have gone back to Clients unsold.
I don't think this effects any thing else bar the overs GT cars, so no doom and gloom price crashes on the whole market , just don't buy a car at overs or a sub standard classic car !
As others have said 991.1 RS are dropping weakly atm and most SOR cars from OPC have gone back to Clients unsold.
I don't think this effects any thing else bar the overs GT cars, so no doom and gloom price crashes on the whole market , just don't buy a car at overs or a sub standard classic car !
Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 19th September 10:13
Taffy66 said:
Apologies if i've touched a raw nerve.!
I had a long conversation with my DP only yesterday, and he clearly stated that 991.2 GT3 RS prices are dropping on a daily basis and will continue to drop in the next few months.This can only be exasperated when the second batch will arrive next spring..
At the risk of touching another raw nerve, as you're obviously concerned with the falling value of your RS may i suggest you sell it now where you'll still reap a significant profit.
I have a new GT3 which are also falling in value and difficult to shift at current asking prices..Do i give a damn...no way..! as surprise,surprise i'm one of the few who bought it for driving enjoyment.
No raw nerve touched, you don’t know me so don’t how why do you think I’m concerned about the prices dropping? What I do care about is people talking prices down. It’s poor taste, with all due respect. I had a long conversation with my DP only yesterday, and he clearly stated that 991.2 GT3 RS prices are dropping on a daily basis and will continue to drop in the next few months.This can only be exasperated when the second batch will arrive next spring..
At the risk of touching another raw nerve, as you're obviously concerned with the falling value of your RS may i suggest you sell it now where you'll still reap a significant profit.
I have a new GT3 which are also falling in value and difficult to shift at current asking prices..Do i give a damn...no way..! as surprise,surprise i'm one of the few who bought it for driving enjoyment.
Guys, tell me how Porsche will 100% get through the WLTP? I’d be intrigued to know ??
cormeist said:
Guys, tell me how Porsche will 100% get through the WLTP? I’d be intrigued to know ??
Its not insurmountable, its just Porsche have been caught napping, unlike other VAG sports cars makers.As an example Lamborghini have had all their cars(Performante included) licenced to be sold in the EU post Sept 1 WLTP, as they took the initiative to be ahead of the pack..No power loss whatsoever with Lambos so i can't see Porsche engineers failing.Porsche were merely complacent and got caught out when the EU fast tracked the new regs last spring with no prior notice.There's a long waiting list at the TUV testing centre in Germany as it takes a surprisingly time to carry out these tests.
There will be a good number of RSs arriving in the UK next Spring i can guarantee you..The only point i remain unconvinced on is whether or not the WP will be made available.I'm not confident on the last point..
Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 19th September 11:09
Taffy66 said:
As an example Lamborghini have had all their cars(Performante included) licenced to be sold in the EU post Sept 1 WLTP, as they took the initiative to be ahead of the pack..No power loss whatsoever with Lambos so i can't see Porsche engineers failing.
But have Lambo produced the same car pre- and post- WLTP/emissions regs with and without a particulate filter? Or did they plan way ahead so that the cars had particulate filters from the off?It's negating the addition of the filter to an existing NASP engine model that's the problem Porsche need to find a solution for.
APOLO1 said:
Do you not think that Supply v Demand has the biggest influence on a vehicle like the 3RS. Ie more supply the price will come down. There are around what 130? 3RSs at present. What do you think will happened to used prices if this amount increases. As for being no more. Then that will mean that the Speedster is not going to happen. Also dealers in EU have already taken in part Exs and committed to 3RS cars for next year.
EU. Says it all. I’ll eat my words when and if they manage to gentsEdited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 19th September 10:03
cormeist said:
Time will tell.. Porsche love to sell cars we know that, but all that effort for a small batch for U.K.? Come on.... plus of course the additional allocations for ROW.
The WLTP is for the whole of the EU market, not just a small batch for the UK..They're currently producing GT3s,Tourings,RSs for all the ROW markets right up tp 1st Q 2019.After that they'll totally switch production for EU WLTP GT3 RSs which will be in quite significant numbers IMO.Only the .3RS will be built for the EU and there are not going to be any more GT3s,Tourings and .2RSs unlike the ROW.
Twinfan said:
Taffy66 said:
As an example Lamborghini have had all their cars(Performante included) licenced to be sold in the EU post Sept 1 WLTP, as they took the initiative to be ahead of the pack..No power loss whatsoever with Lambos so i can't see Porsche engineers failing.
But have Lambo produced the same car pre- and post- WLTP/emissions regs with and without a particulate filter? Or did they plan way ahead so that the cars had particulate filters from the off?It's negating the addition of the filter to an existing NASP engine model that's the problem Porsche need to find a solution for.
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