991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??

991.1 GT3-RS: GOOD TIME TO BUY...??

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baronbennyt

900 posts

96 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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AndrewD said:
Thanks!

A lovely car and I hope the new owner enjoys it.
You chose a superb specification, thank you sir! The RS has found a good new home here in Surrey and will be cherished. I'm off to the Le Mans test day in it this weekend; I can't wait, particularly as the weather looks set to be glorious when we will be down there.


AndrewD

7,538 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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That sounds like a glorious trip! Enjoy!

misiu1

58 posts

78 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I have chance to but a low mileage 991 GT2RS for 325k. I'm wondering if I should jump at the opportunity or if they still have further to go now we're coming into winter. I have a manual .2GT3 and PDK .2GT3 and one of those would have to go into the deal which makes decision even harder. any advice very much appreciated

Robbo66

3,834 posts

233 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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misiu1 said:
I have chance to but a low mileage 991 GT2RS for 325k. I'm wondering if I should jump at the opportunity or if they still have further to go now we're coming into winter. I have a manual .2GT3 and PDK .2GT3 and one of those would have to go into the deal which makes decision even harder. any advice very much appreciated
You’ll do £50k driving out of the showroom and you can’t drive it as extremely mileage sensitive. You have the better car for real world driving already. 2RS compromised on track and road, unless you’re prepared to tinker and spend on Manthey wizardry.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Whatever you do keep the 'manuel' GT3.

Juno

4,481 posts

249 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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misiu1 said:
I have chance to but a low mileage 991 GT2RS for 325k. I'm wondering if I should jump at the opportunity or if they still have further to go now we're coming into winter. I have a manual .2GT3 and PDK .2GT3 and one of those would have to go into the deal which makes decision even harder. any advice very much appreciated
The GT2RS looks like it will be the pinnacle of GT cars for some time to come so what the he’ll if you can do it go for it. What value can you put on having the best!!!

Even if a 992 GT2RS does emerge they will be impossible to get and flipped for at least £500k

Do it man,life is too short biggrin

GT4RS

4,428 posts

197 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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The gt2rs is the one to own, wouldn’t think twice. As long as you buy it right you wouldn’t loose anymore money than on your 991.2 gt3.


AndrewD

7,538 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Robbo66 said:
You’ll do £50k driving out of the showroom and you can’t drive it as extremely mileage sensitive. You have the better car for real world driving already. 2RS compromised on track and road, unless you’re prepared to tinker and spend on Manthey wizardry.
Much of that is true of a GT3RS too. I find the 2RS is insanely fast for the road, but for a modern car you can still enjoy it a lot of the time. None of the moderns are as fun as the oldies - not for some but I just bought a boggo 993 Carrera and it is so enjoyable at half the speed.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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AndrewD said:
Robbo66 said:
You’ll do £50k driving out of the showroom and you can’t drive it as extremely mileage sensitive. You have the better car for real world driving already. 2RS compromised on track and road, unless you’re prepared to tinker and spend on Manthey wizardry.
None of the moderns are as fun as the oldies - not for some but I just bought a boggo 993 Carrera and it is so enjoyable at half the speed.
Agree with this 100% - since spring have been using my ‘73 RS rec as my daily - have much “better” modern pork ; the old ones are just more fun on a public road. smile

misiu1

58 posts

78 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Thanks for all the advice. I've decided to stick to my pdk and manual GT3s for now and look at 2Rs prices again come November

browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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RSVP911 said:
AndrewD said:
Robbo66 said:
You’ll do £50k driving out of the showroom and you can’t drive it as extremely mileage sensitive. You have the better car for real world driving already. 2RS compromised on track and road, unless you’re prepared to tinker and spend on Manthey wizardry.
None of the moderns are as fun as the oldies - not for some but I just bought a boggo 993 Carrera and it is so enjoyable at half the speed.
Agree with this 100% - since spring have been using my ‘73 RS rec as my daily - have much “better” modern pork ; the old ones are just more fun on a public road. smile
Also agree. It's funny as the years roll by the air cooled seem to just get better and better. With increasing digitisation and electrification their appeal can only increase

AndrewD

7,538 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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browngt3 said:
Also agree. It's funny as the years roll by the air cooled seem to just get better and better. With increasing digitisation and electrification their appeal can only increase
Maybe we are all turning into old beardies! smile
I prefer the induction and exhaust noise of the air cooled too.

browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Ha ha, yes! Once upon a time used to embrace the latest new thing along with the tech. Now, although, somewhat curious, I'm just not mega excited about the forthcoming Taycan with all its cutting edge tech and multiple touchscreens. I see its got a digital version of the old 911 dials. Looks nice but I'm so glad I can look at the real thing as often as I like!

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Not much between the .1 and .2 RS in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtZXPiuJgWA

MDL111

6,951 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Sandy59 said:
Not much between the .1 and .2 RS in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtZXPiuJgWA
I suspect most people will not be faster at all in a 2 than a 1 - esp if both running same tyres.

it also sounds like the additional revs are not important - isn't max power at 8.2k or some such figure anyway, so no need to rev (much) higher than that [great marketing though as reading statements on here it often sounds like the new car/engine is a revelation and the older model basically ready for the scrap heap]

MDL111

6,951 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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accident damage repaired by Porsche, but still - a lot of car for the money, even has the front cage extension. Looks good in silver

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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MDL111 said:
I suspect most people will not be faster at all in a 2 than a 1 - esp if both running same tyres.

it also sounds like the additional revs are not important - isn't max power at 8.2k or some such figure anyway, so no need to rev (much) higher than that [great marketing though as reading statements on here it often sounds like the new car/engine is a revelation and the older model basically ready for the scrap heap]
Yes that certainly seems to have been the view of some on here, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to get another one at some point in the future.

isaldiri

18,589 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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MDL111 said:
I suspect most people will not be faster at all in a 2 than a 1 - esp if both running same tyres.

it also sounds like the additional revs are not important - isn't max power at 8.2k or some such figure anyway, so no need to rev (much) higher than that [great marketing though as reading statements on here it often sounds like the new car/engine is a revelation and the older model basically ready for the scrap heap]
Specific to the ring, that is probably the case for most 'normal' people. A friend who's there regularly reckons he's not any quicker in the .2 as it's stiffly sprung enough it makes him nervous sometimes when the .1 didn't (he's running sub 7:30 btg) and that's the case for some of his friends as well not being much if any quicker. On most other tracks it seems the .2 is faster but how much is a bit more up to question.

The added revs will help though especially as the engine also produces more power all along the curve in the .2. Changing revs at higher rpm puts you closer to peak power in the next gear. Perhaps not the quantum difference as suggested by some (perhaps only that applies to the manual 4.0 engine...) but it will make a difference on the clock.

Edited by isaldiri on Thursday 29th August 10:18

MDL111

6,951 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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isaldiri said:
MDL111 said:
I suspect most people will not be faster at all in a 2 than a 1 - esp if both running same tyres.

it also sounds like the additional revs are not important - isn't max power at 8.2k or some such figure anyway, so no need to rev (much) higher than that [great marketing though as reading statements on here it often sounds like the new car/engine is a revelation and the older model basically ready for the scrap heap]
Specific to the ring, that is probably the case for most 'normal' people. A friend who's there regularly reckons he's not any quicker in the .2 as it's stiffly sprung enough it makes him nervous sometimes when the .1 didn't (he's running sub 7:30 btg) and that's the case for some of his friends as well not being much if any quicker. On most other tracks it seems the .2 is faster but how much is a bit more up to question.

The added revs will help though especially as the engine also produces more power all along the curve in the .2. Changing revs at higher rpm puts you closer to peak power in the next gear. Perhaps not the quantum difference as suggested by some (perhaps only that applies to the manual 4.0 engine...) but it will make a difference on the clock.

Edited by isaldiri on Thursday 29th August 10:18
good point about the next gear, did not think that far .... I am a pansy and short shift 99% of the time below max revs on track (and obv. road) anyway

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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MDL111 said:
good point about the next gear, did not think that far .... I am a pansy and short shift 99% of the time below max revs on track (and obv. road) anyway
I'll vbox some gear changes see what the time difference is, I never goto 9k unless mid bend and don't want to change gear or take my hand off the wheel.

the 9k gives the manual driver options without loosing power up there so it's very handy, I would say it's slower doing so though in a out right drag race.

I post up at some point to show the data logs for say 8k, 8.5 and 9k changes.