RPM Technik 996 CSR
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PGNSagaris on here owns one - see about half way down here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Have a read of the following thread, incredible attention to detail, similar vein but very customisable...
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137&si...
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137&si...
Jim1556 said:
Have a read of the following thread, incredible attention to detail, similar vein but very customisable...
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137&si...
Exactly this ^ http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137&si...
Speak to Rich B, he’ll build you something truly sublime.
After about 18 months of indecision I decided to take the plunge on a '98 996 C2 and have it CSR'd by RPM, it's currently in build as chassis no. 26.
Prior to going ahead with the mods I visited RPM and had a drive in the new 996 Evo CSR demo they have just completed. I was immediately sold. The process is reasonably bespoke and you can choose items to your own preference s and budget.
Speaking of budget all in my 996 will be about £35k ( base car, mechanical refresh work that most 20 year old cars will need plus CSR mods). More than intended but these things seem to spiral! I went for getting the chassis super sorted so it handles, rides and stops better than a new 996 C2 (and potentially better than a GT3 996.1). Engine/ transmission wise it's having lightweight flywheel, a new LSD, SSK and new IMS bearing. Cosmetically I opted for Fuchs, and a ducktail. It already had a GT3 front bumper. I decided on no side skirts as they look a bit stuck on on a 996 ( to my eyes at least). As well as the major items there were lots of other bits and bobs undertaken while access was easy.
Obviously with modifications you rarely/never get back what you spend so as a value proposition vs say a GT3 996.1 it may not stack up BUT the GT3 would be double the price and may need money spending on it anyway. As a fast road / occasional track car to keep it suits me, others may and will disagree.
I think I've now got a good basis for a slowly evolving road car ( next adding further lightness, it's about 60 kgs lighter than standard, there's another 50kg easily to be had before considering some of the things Rich B did with his lovely CLR). Clearly with 996s there's the spectre of engine problems, so it will probably receive a Hartech rebuild and possibly capacity increase next year.
Anyone considering it should definitely give RPM a call!
Prior to going ahead with the mods I visited RPM and had a drive in the new 996 Evo CSR demo they have just completed. I was immediately sold. The process is reasonably bespoke and you can choose items to your own preference s and budget.
Speaking of budget all in my 996 will be about £35k ( base car, mechanical refresh work that most 20 year old cars will need plus CSR mods). More than intended but these things seem to spiral! I went for getting the chassis super sorted so it handles, rides and stops better than a new 996 C2 (and potentially better than a GT3 996.1). Engine/ transmission wise it's having lightweight flywheel, a new LSD, SSK and new IMS bearing. Cosmetically I opted for Fuchs, and a ducktail. It already had a GT3 front bumper. I decided on no side skirts as they look a bit stuck on on a 996 ( to my eyes at least). As well as the major items there were lots of other bits and bobs undertaken while access was easy.
Obviously with modifications you rarely/never get back what you spend so as a value proposition vs say a GT3 996.1 it may not stack up BUT the GT3 would be double the price and may need money spending on it anyway. As a fast road / occasional track car to keep it suits me, others may and will disagree.
I think I've now got a good basis for a slowly evolving road car ( next adding further lightness, it's about 60 kgs lighter than standard, there's another 50kg easily to be had before considering some of the things Rich B did with his lovely CLR). Clearly with 996s there's the spectre of engine problems, so it will probably receive a Hartech rebuild and possibly capacity increase next year.
Anyone considering it should definitely give RPM a call!
RicM5 said:
Slippydiff said:
Exactly this ^
Speak to Rich B, he’ll build you something truly sublime.
Henry who’s Rich B?Speak to Rich B, he’ll build you something truly sublime.
Forgive my incompetence
http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137&si...
There are numerous ways to skin a cat, and I'm sure the boys at RPMT produce a fine product, but rest assured Richard's would be on different level altogether.
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Greedydog said:
After about 18 months of indecision I decided to take the plunge on a '98 996 C2 and have it CSR'd by RPM, it's currently in build as chassis no. 26.
Prior to going ahead with the mods I visited RPM and had a drive in the new 996 Evo CSR demo they have just completed. I was immediately sold. The process is reasonably bespoke and you can choose items to your own preference s and budget.
Speaking of budget all in my 996 will be about £35k ( base car, mechanical refresh work that most 20 year old cars will need plus CSR mods). More than intended but these things seem to spiral! I went for getting the chassis super sorted so it handles, rides and stops better than a new 996 C2 (and potentially better than a GT3 996.1). Engine/ transmission wise it's having lightweight flywheel, a new LSD, SSK and new IMS bearing. Cosmetically I opted for Fuchs, and a ducktail. It already had a GT3 front bumper. I decided on no side skirts as they look a bit stuck on on a 996 ( to my eyes at least). As well as the major items there were lots of other bits and bobs undertaken while access was easy.
Obviously with modifications you rarely/never get back what you spend so as a value proposition vs say a GT3 996.1 it may not stack up BUT the GT3 would be double the price and may need money spending on it anyway. As a fast road / occasional track car to keep it suits me, others may and will disagree.
I think I've now got a good basis for a slowly evolving road car ( next adding further lightness, it's about 60 kgs lighter than standard, there's another 50kg easily to be had before considering some of the things Rich B did with his lovely CLR). Clearly with 996s there's the spectre of engine problems, so it will probably receive a Hartech rebuild and possibly capacity increase next year.
Anyone considering it should definitely give RPM a call!
£35k for 996 sounds a lot but look at what you are getting, now compare that to any of the air cooled prices and I would say it is a barginPrior to going ahead with the mods I visited RPM and had a drive in the new 996 Evo CSR demo they have just completed. I was immediately sold. The process is reasonably bespoke and you can choose items to your own preference s and budget.
Speaking of budget all in my 996 will be about £35k ( base car, mechanical refresh work that most 20 year old cars will need plus CSR mods). More than intended but these things seem to spiral! I went for getting the chassis super sorted so it handles, rides and stops better than a new 996 C2 (and potentially better than a GT3 996.1). Engine/ transmission wise it's having lightweight flywheel, a new LSD, SSK and new IMS bearing. Cosmetically I opted for Fuchs, and a ducktail. It already had a GT3 front bumper. I decided on no side skirts as they look a bit stuck on on a 996 ( to my eyes at least). As well as the major items there were lots of other bits and bobs undertaken while access was easy.
Obviously with modifications you rarely/never get back what you spend so as a value proposition vs say a GT3 996.1 it may not stack up BUT the GT3 would be double the price and may need money spending on it anyway. As a fast road / occasional track car to keep it suits me, others may and will disagree.
I think I've now got a good basis for a slowly evolving road car ( next adding further lightness, it's about 60 kgs lighter than standard, there's another 50kg easily to be had before considering some of the things Rich B did with his lovely CLR). Clearly with 996s there's the spectre of engine problems, so it will probably receive a Hartech rebuild and possibly capacity increase next year.
Anyone considering it should definitely give RPM a call!
I’d definitely be looking at Richards CLR if I were in your position but once a car and conversion nears that of a GT3, you have a big dilemma.
If you are looking for the purest drive of them all, a GT3 with some of Richards lightweight treatment would probably be the absolute ultimate driving tool.
If you are looking for the purest drive of them all, a GT3 with some of Richards lightweight treatment would probably be the absolute ultimate driving tool.
RicM5 said:
Henry who’s Rich B?
Forgive my incompetence
More info here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Forgive my incompetence
Also of note is, his version has full TUV approval, including the custom made parts. Couple that with a potential 200kg+ weight loss. I know where my money would be going!
I took the plunge last year with a 996.2 C2 and can highly recommend both the CSR and the guys at RPM. The difficulty is having the self restraint to know where to draw the line with the mods!
Pic above was from the Silverstone PHSS sometime last year (October I think). Although it's fun on the track, I found it even more enjoyable on the road. The driving experience with the aggressive diff and the lightweight flywheel was sublime and the torque of the engine and the relative lack of mass meant it was really quite a rapid car even compared with more modern Porsches.
The car is so honed and well set-up. Where is really excelled though was the handling - the steering is great on the 996 anyway but the combination of quality damping, upgraded lower arms and bushes and cornerweighting just removed all slack from the front end of the car. It was a very confidence inspiring car, especially in wet conditions.
The biggest complement I can pay it is that for my preferences, and as a road car, I found it a more engaging and rewarding car that the GT4 I've since moved on to. As you can tell I'm a big fan and although you can probably replicate elements of the CSR, there is something quite coherent about the overall package which for me at least, just clicks. Highly recommended!
Welcome to the CSR family! We might need to start an owners club soon.
I am the proud owner of the original 997 CSR (the black and gold one) build 002. I’ve had the car for over 3 years and done numerous road trips across Europe and quite a few track days. Every time I drive the car is a special occasion. A lot more mechanical feel, the setup is superb, the noise amazing. Still makes me smile.
You’ll have a lot of fun
Mat
I am the proud owner of the original 997 CSR (the black and gold one) build 002. I’ve had the car for over 3 years and done numerous road trips across Europe and quite a few track days. Every time I drive the car is a special occasion. A lot more mechanical feel, the setup is superb, the noise amazing. Still makes me smile.
You’ll have a lot of fun
Mat
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