Which 996 would you choose?

Which 996 would you choose?

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mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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skinny said:
For your budget I'd be looking at C4S. But given you want an aero, you should be able to pick up a very nice carrera for that money.

Looks like you have found a good one. But this looks nice, if you can live with the interior.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
looked great, then i saw the nankangs on the rear frown

WojaWabbit

1,112 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Personally I'd go for the well used and well looked after car over the low mileage garage queen.

996s genuinely like being used. Mine would always be a bit grumpy and throw up a minor issue or two when it sat for more than a couple of weeks. When I worked overseas for a few months I had my mate take it for a spin every week to warm it up and get the fluids flowing.

My indy told me the garage queens he sees are always the ones throwing up big bills. Those in daily use tend to get serviced more regularly and as such little things get picked up and the driver is more aware of them.

Low milers are for poseurs and penny pinchers... high milers are for the drivers!

jonny996

2,621 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Which one

jonny996

2,621 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
jonny996 said:
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Which one
The GT-Not I suspect.
Can I ask why not? Surely you can't rule out a car for the sake of a badge or does he know something I dont

PGNSagaris

2,940 posts

167 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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ishay said:
Ask for a discount for the fake GT3 badge
This. Cretinous badging.

Turbotechnic

675 posts

77 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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WojaWabbit said:
Personally I'd go for the well used and well looked after car over the low mileage garage queen.

996s genuinely like being used. Mine would always be a bit grumpy and throw up a minor issue or two when it sat for more than a couple of weeks. When I worked overseas for a few months I had my mate take it for a spin every week to warm it up and get the fluids flowing.

My indy told me the garage queens he sees are always the ones throwing up big bills. Those in daily use tend to get serviced more regularly and as such little things get picked up and the driver is more aware of them.

Low milers are for poseurs and penny pinchers... high milers are for the drivers!
^^^^this. From my experience cars in daily use do tend to be less problematic.

Scho

2,479 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Whatever spec you choose with you're budget I'd be leaning towards something with a Harlech rebuild.

Since it sounds like you're intending to use the thing the piece of mind this comes with is well worth the premium.

Good luck with the search! They're amazing cars.

porkey

630 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Always worth checking the MOT history as well.

monthefish

20,448 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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WojaWabbit said:
Personally I'd go for the well used and well looked after car over the low mileage garage queen.

996s genuinely like being used. Mine would always be a bit grumpy and throw up a minor issue or two when it sat for more than a couple of weeks. When I worked overseas for a few months I had my mate take it for a spin every week to warm it up and get the fluids flowing.

My indy told me the garage queens he sees are always the ones throwing up big bills. Those in daily use tend to get serviced more regularly and as such little things get picked up and the driver is more aware of them.

Low milers are for poseurs and penny pinchers... high milers are for the drivers!
Wise words.

ishay

145 posts

99 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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jonny996 said:
Can I ask why not? Surely you can't rule out a car for the sake of a badge or does he know something I dont
It suggests (not certain but enough to put me off) that they were more interested in some silly superficial mods than having a well sorted car. It makes me think they couldn't afford the car they really wanted and therefore may have been tight on cash for other things the car needed.

Now this could be garbage, there is a very well known, very well modded Turbo that carries GT2 RS badges.

But it puts enough doubt in my mind to walk away (or at least ask for a discount)

Fastlane

1,172 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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skinny said:
Looks like you have found a good one. But this looks nice, if you can live with the interior.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
That garage has an "interesting" reputation:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1379885#1379885

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=115814

JS1500

579 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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EGTE said:
rdodger said:
It's not an investment and will be driven 3-5000 miles a year between March and November including an annual Euro trip with friends.

If it appreciates enough to cover it's cost then I will be delighted. I will settle for it not costing too much. We intend to keep it long term and treat it accordingly.

We are pretty fixed on a C2 with Aero kit and sunroof. Not silver. We are leaning to the best condition we can find with moderate mileage and comprehensive history. We don't want concourse just really good usable condition.

We have found one with a respected specialist. It looks like it's all of the money but I think a deal can be done with a few preventative jobs (IMS, Clutch, main oil seal, low temp thermostat, water pump etc) and a decent warranty. Mostly it looks mint and so COOL!

I will post pics if it works out :-)
Good choice. About 150Kgs lighter than the lardy C4S.
Is it?
I read that the 996.1 C4 is 55kg heavier than the equivalent C2, so does that mean the C4S's wide bodywork, Turbo suspension and brakes add another 95kg?! Maybe the 996.2 C4 is heavier than the 996.1 C4 to begin with..?

Paynewright

659 posts

78 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Dont forget forward propshaft, diff and driveshafts - this will be the bulk of the extra weight.

Ian

JS1500

579 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Paynewright said:
Dont forget forward propshaft, diff and driveshafts - this will be the bulk of the extra weight.

Ian
As said, the C4 is 55kg heavier than the equivalent C2. It's where the extra 95kg comes from that I'm querying.

Fast Bug

11,748 posts

162 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Early C2 for me. None of this lardy bottomed wide body nonsensebiggrin

Smollet

10,665 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Fast Bug said:
Early C2 for me. None of this lardy bottomed wide body nonsensebiggrin
Bill bearing hips. laugh

Dammit

3,790 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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JS1500 said:
As said, the C4 is 55kg heavier than the equivalent C2. It's where the extra 95kg comes from that I'm querying.
996.1 C2, 1320kg and 300bhp
996.2 C2, 1370kg and 320bhp
996.2 C4S, 1495kg and 320bhp
996.2 C4S Tip, 1550kg and 320bhp

The C4S shell is the turbo shell which is the stiffest 996.x shell that was made (if you ignore the stitch-welding rumours about the 996.1 C4 shell used by the GT3). The rest of the weight will be front diff, driveshafts, brakes, suspension etc etc.

The turbo adds a further 90kg of weight over the C4S, but of course makes up for it with plenty of additional poke.

EGTE

996 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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JS1500 said:
Paynewright said:
Dont forget forward propshaft, diff and driveshafts - this will be the bulk of the extra weight.

Ian
As said, the C4 is 55kg heavier than the equivalent C2. It's where the extra 95kg comes from that I'm querying.
From zeperfs.com, the 3.4 C2 is 1320 Kgs, the 3.6 C2 is 1370 Kgs , the C4 is 1430 Kgs (all narrow-bodies). The C4S is 1495 Kgs because it uses the wide-body shell (and heavier brakes, etc), which add 65 Kgs over C4, while 4WD adds 60Kgs (over the equivalent 3.6L C2).

jonny996

2,621 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Dammit said:
The C4S shell is the turbo shell which is the stiffest 996.x shell that was made (if you ignore the stitch-welding rumours about the 996.1 C4 shell used by the GT3).
so was the 996.1 C4 shell used by the GT3 or not?

Dammit

3,790 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Yes it was, the question is whether it was taken off the line and stitch-welded or not.