A shout to Porsche to stop the GT Filppers
Discussion
Porsche911R said:
JulierPass said:
It’s not just gt3’s. The whole car market at large is down. I mentioned in an earlier post about the prices of 911 R’s etc. F50’s are currently trading at 25% less. I could go on. This isn’t down to oversupply but consumer confidence. People think that bad news in on the horizon, that could be down to brexit, it could be down to a lack of confidence in the government, but the writing is in the wall. The clever money isn’t spending.
Porsche sold all of the GT3's :-) OPC having 43 for sale now has nothing to do with lack of confidence , and every thing to do with flipping and greed.The new car market is down yes, but as I said Porsche sold all theirs new no issue I bet they sell all the GT4 no issue.
you are talking two different stories.
people saying lack of confidence is stopping the sale of daft priced GT3's is incorrect !! put up all those cars at list price and I bet they sell.
Without the promise of making overs on these cars there isn't a great demand.
xbowdan said:
Robbo66 said:
Dealers are now offering list max, so whilst commendable, think the seller wasn’t losing anything in selling privately.
That’s not true at all, he was offered MORE from a dealer without even trying, I have seen the correspondence...List is now whats being offered for cars with a bit of mileage etc. What the Dealers sell them for is up to them, but it's the 'bid' price that has plummeted from the £170k 2 months ago. I've no wish to talk pricing down, or up, but this is where we are IF you can get a Dealer to even write a cheque for one in the first place. Most will want SOR as they see the seasonal window nearly shut, and don't want to catch the falling knife.
m33ufo said:
Stating the obvious but it's VERY easy selling new cars to customers who can make a profit on them as soon as they take delivery. Not so easy when that's not the case. You only have to go back 3 or 4 years to a time when almost new GT cars sat in showrooms for months at well below list price.
Without the promise of making overs on these cars there isn't a great demand.
while the cars for sale look a big number, the % of UK cars for sale is not that many really, most people are keeping them.Without the promise of making overs on these cars there isn't a great demand.
OPC have most of the stock at 37 cars, but UK prob had 400 odd. So they have 10% !
I talk to a lot of people who want one and would buy one at list or a little over.
that private sale did well imo as it was not a crazy high spec car and went for £140k in about 5 minutes , PCCB really do cost a lot to add to the spec.
So the private sale got what £15k overs on a older car with more miles than most.
#£200k
m33ufo said:
Stating the obvious but it's VERY easy selling new cars to customers who can make a profit on them as soon as they take delivery. Not so easy when that's not the case. You only have to go back 3 or 4 years to a time when almost new GT cars sat in showrooms for months at well below list price.
Without the promise of making overs on these cars there isn't a great demand.
Agreed. I would buy at list. Without the promise of making overs on these cars there isn't a great demand.
footsoldier said:
Everyone is waiting to 'buy at list' when the car is selling for £50k overs
When the overs melt away and it's a falling market, everyone will be waiting to 'buy at £100k'...
cannot see it due to 991.1 GT3 prices having to then be £90k When the overs melt away and it's a falling market, everyone will be waiting to 'buy at £100k'...
but one can hope all cars drop 50% I 'll be waiting and it won't be for Porkers.
back where you can get into super cars for 1/2 list price.
like the GT4 market they were high ,then dropped due to a flood, then sold still at overs and still do.
Robbo66 said:
I'm not. Speak to D.
Nowhere near list irrespective of spec from the little I know. Had a dealer offer me 195 unsolicited for my Touring last week, then 200 when I said no. Wasn't tempted. I don't see them as spiking and then coming down like the 2RS has done simply because the numbers, and the price over list, isn't anything like as much, but the market is struggling to price all this at the moment.Can't comment much on the car itself, the 4k rev limit whilst its being run is doesn't help much. Not used to that these days!
Porsche911R said:
why lie ?
Don't Panic D. The only ones that I know to that went back in at list or close, were on the back of a 2RS or GT3RS etc. Best trade bid on mine last week was 152k. list was just under 137k. Touring still over 190k trade bid for right spec.See you at Silverstone later this month.
Adam B said:
£85,000 more than the cheapest delivery mileage GT3 Club Sport at an OPC. Cheaper to just take the cage out and rear spoiler off....
Personal, but I'd have to agree with all of that.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff