gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!
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Dammit said:
Porsche911R said:
my cars are worth over 8x my PA wage.
That's what car nutters do, my mates cars are worth about 8x his wage also.
Any one can buy a supercar imo.
IIRC you are some form of IT consultant so will be evading tax by paying yourself the minimum wage and then the rest in dividends, so that figure is essentially meaningless. That's what car nutters do, my mates cars are worth about 8x his wage also.
Any one can buy a supercar imo.
Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 20th November 08:21
ks.Think its about time this thread had its title updated: 2 months on from the original post today and there are now 222 GT3 up for sale....an extra 84 in 2 months........pretty rare things these GT3's :-)
Interesting looking at the numbers for sale:
996.1 = 16
996.2 = 26
997.1 = 26
997.2 = 28
991.1 = 61
991.2 = 65
If its the rare/low volume produced versions of GT3 that become the future collectibles, surely the fact that over 600 991.2 have been made, these will be the bargain GT3 before too long ;-)
I carry on waiting to pick up a bargain next year :-)
Edited to correct number of 996.1......Consider myself educated :-)
Interesting looking at the numbers for sale:
996.1 = 16
996.2 = 26
997.1 = 26
997.2 = 28
991.1 = 61
991.2 = 65
If its the rare/low volume produced versions of GT3 that become the future collectibles, surely the fact that over 600 991.2 have been made, these will be the bargain GT3 before too long ;-)
I carry on waiting to pick up a bargain next year :-)
Edited to correct number of 996.1......Consider myself educated :-)
Edited by DappaD on Thursday 22 November 05:46
DappaD said:
Think its about time this thread had its title updated: 2 months on from the original post today and there are now 222 GT3 up for sale....an extra 84 in 2 months........pretty rare things these GT3's :-)
Interesting looking at the numbers for sale:
996.1 = 28
996.2 = 14
997.1 = 26
997.2 = 28
991.1 = 61
991.2 = 65
If its the rare/low volume produced versions of GT3 that become the future collectibles, surely the fact that over 600 991.2 have been made, these will be the bargain GT3 before too long ;-)
I carry on waiting to pick up a bargain next year :-)
Just had a quick random look at PH, where did you get your 28 996.1 figure?Interesting looking at the numbers for sale:
996.1 = 28
996.2 = 14
997.1 = 26
997.2 = 28
991.1 = 61
991.2 = 65
If its the rare/low volume produced versions of GT3 that become the future collectibles, surely the fact that over 600 991.2 have been made, these will be the bargain GT3 before too long ;-)
I carry on waiting to pick up a bargain next year :-)
I counted 16/17 including the few LHDs and overseas adverts.
I think most people would disagree ....
There is now an awful lot of modern classic metal chasing a customer base that had hoped they could flip their cars for a new modern classic that would show them more profit than they had lost on their trade-in.
In the meantime dealers were happily offering finance at 8% pa (based on base interest rates at less than 1%)... effectively skimming the transaction.
But the number of prospective customers may not be growing to match the numbers of new cars coming into the market ... QED oversupply ?
With Quantitative Easing since 2008 and Brexit we now have a catch 22. If the Brexit question is resolved in a beneficial way, interest rates must rise ... if the Brexit question is resolved in a damaging way, the country could be much poorer and if a Labour government was to follow, taxed much more heavily.
So who will buy these cars ?
As an aside, European manufacturers have been stuffing the UK market with deals for the last 18 months ... look at the discounts on BMW / VW / Audi from car warehouses ... and most of it is on finance ...
There is now an awful lot of modern classic metal chasing a customer base that had hoped they could flip their cars for a new modern classic that would show them more profit than they had lost on their trade-in.
In the meantime dealers were happily offering finance at 8% pa (based on base interest rates at less than 1%)... effectively skimming the transaction.
But the number of prospective customers may not be growing to match the numbers of new cars coming into the market ... QED oversupply ?
With Quantitative Easing since 2008 and Brexit we now have a catch 22. If the Brexit question is resolved in a beneficial way, interest rates must rise ... if the Brexit question is resolved in a damaging way, the country could be much poorer and if a Labour government was to follow, taxed much more heavily.
So who will buy these cars ?
As an aside, European manufacturers have been stuffing the UK market with deals for the last 18 months ... look at the discounts on BMW / VW / Audi from car warehouses ... and most of it is on finance ...
ChrisW. said:
I think most people would disagree ....
There is now an awful lot of modern classic metal chasing a customer base that had hoped they could flip their cars for a new modern classic that would show them more profit than they had lost on their trade-in.
In the meantime dealers were happily offering finance at 8% pa (based on base interest rates at less than 1%)... effectively skimming the transaction.
But the number of prospective customers may not be growing to match the numbers of new cars coming into the market ... QED oversupply ?
With Quantitative Easing since 2008 and Brexit we now have a catch 22. If the Brexit question is resolved in a beneficial way, interest rates must rise ... if the Brexit question is resolved in a damaging way, the country could be much poorer and if a Labour government was to follow, taxed much more heavily.
So who will buy these cars ?
As an aside, European manufacturers have been stuffing the UK market with deals for the last 18 months ... look at the discounts on BMW / VW / Audi from car warehouses ... and most of it is on finance ...
Please don't be so sensible, prepared to be pilloried as a doom-monger or ignored by the usual suspects. I'm being chased by all in sundry trying to get me in to various GT products at some fanciful 'overs'...patience.There is now an awful lot of modern classic metal chasing a customer base that had hoped they could flip their cars for a new modern classic that would show them more profit than they had lost on their trade-in.
In the meantime dealers were happily offering finance at 8% pa (based on base interest rates at less than 1%)... effectively skimming the transaction.
But the number of prospective customers may not be growing to match the numbers of new cars coming into the market ... QED oversupply ?
With Quantitative Easing since 2008 and Brexit we now have a catch 22. If the Brexit question is resolved in a beneficial way, interest rates must rise ... if the Brexit question is resolved in a damaging way, the country could be much poorer and if a Labour government was to follow, taxed much more heavily.
So who will buy these cars ?
As an aside, European manufacturers have been stuffing the UK market with deals for the last 18 months ... look at the discounts on BMW / VW / Audi from car warehouses ... and most of it is on finance ...
I’m not sure Brexit and the uncertain economic future has anything to do with GT cars not selling. I always think these Armageddon situations are over hyped. A lot of people bought super cars during the Credit Crunch of 2008.
I just think it is a simple case of supply and demand. There has been a compression with the GT car prices and Porsche are making new and more models each year. Something has got to give.
I just think it is a simple case of supply and demand. There has been a compression with the GT car prices and Porsche are making new and more models each year. Something has got to give.
I am waiting to purchase a GT3 for a number of reasons.
Principle..........I’m not paying more than RRP for any car.
Logic.........historically all GT3s have depreciated.......the norm WILL return (looking like sooner rather than later)
Thirdly, My current car (997 GTS - which I track, take on drift days) is probably a bettter road car anyway......(I just want the extra couple 1000 rpm to add to the experience)
Combining all of the above.........I also have more sense than money :-)
Principle..........I’m not paying more than RRP for any car.
Logic.........historically all GT3s have depreciated.......the norm WILL return (looking like sooner rather than later)
Thirdly, My current car (997 GTS - which I track, take on drift days) is probably a bettter road car anyway......(I just want the extra couple 1000 rpm to add to the experience)
Combining all of the above.........I also have more sense than money :-)
DappaD said:
Thirdly, My current car (997 GTS - which I track, take on drift days) is probably a bettter road car anyway......(I just want the extra couple 1000 rpm to add to the experience)
It's not. I am lucky enough to have both. It's not just the last 1k rpm....it's about how the first 8k rpm are delivered too. GTS is a great car and yes the chassis/suspension is more compliant but GT3 is a road car on another level IMHO. isaldiri said:
So if someone offered you a 2.7rs a whopping £20k over it's original list you would refuse....?
Cut him some slack perhaps 
... He means modern cars and he has a point. There are so many on the market, we are seeing them fall. List on a .2GT3 is really quite possible in the scheme of things. Heck the .1GT3RS is all but there now...For those less fortunate, the thought of getting into a car such as this for list is really quite exciting I should imagine.
Fokker said:
Cut him some slack perhaps ... He means modern cars and he has a point. There are so many on the market, we are seeing them fall. List on a .2GT3 is really quite possible in the scheme of things. Heck the .1GT3RS is all but there now...
For those less fortunate, the thought of getting into a car such as this for list is really quite exciting I should imagine.
He did say 'any car' ... ... He means modern cars and he has a point. There are so many on the market, we are seeing them fall. List on a .2GT3 is really quite possible in the scheme of things. Heck the .1GT3RS is all but there now...For those less fortunate, the thought of getting into a car such as this for list is really quite exciting I should imagine.
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