gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!

gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!

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Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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I-Mac said:
Almost word for word I have been thinking the same...…..and I think they (991.2 GT3) will drop yet. Everything is dropping except the very latest new things. 991.2; is not the newest thing now and plenty for sale, so easy to purchase one.... whilst some cars have sold quickly recently I suspect it is below what dealers/people are asking. Right now I would say that the GT4 is sounder financially than the 991.2 GT3, until the new GT4 comes out that is..... but then being a much cheaper car, it has less to fall. With the 992 now announced and speccable (is that a word? - it is now!) coupled to the usual internet gossip that the 992.1 GT3 could only be a year to 18 months away.....I wonder where 991.2 prices will end up? They still have the 991.1 to prop them up.....

I have been struggling with the exact same quandary…. :P
GT4 also dropping so horses for courses, if you see a car in the spec you want buy it imo, as EVERY one says " plenty for sale" but there are hardly any in a spec one would want hence the 2 of the most expensive cars sold last week as they were a very nice spec.

where as OPC have had some cars for sale 4 months and are stuck.

If you are moving from one car to another the drop does not matter does it , but finding a car you like does.

I don't see a drop really as demand is quite high , better to swap sooner than later as I see a bigger GT4 drop coming imo.

OPC are back to 9 manuals with wings and while that number is steady, they are rolling over the higher spec cars.

out the 9 there is not a car there I would pay overs for as an example. The best 2 cars they had have gone and sold in days.

we have the 1 or 2 people who will disagree, it's a forum, but the market at this money DEMANDS a PCCB bucket seated car, OPC only have one with those 2 simple options on them, let alone any thing else you might fancy like (sadly for resale, lift, PCM, and maybe LED's) people with £155k to spend want the spec it seems. The only PCCB bucket seated car misses Lift and LED ! great for a track hack as long as you don't want to lower it !




Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 10th December 09:01

av185

18,522 posts

128 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Broadly it depends on how picky a buyer is re spec but as we have seen many times the best cars sell quickly at the best prices that is why there are a relatively constant number (20ish) of winged gen 2 GT3s in OPC stock many of these being poor or inappropriate spec often on sor.

Same story there is only one car of suitable spec within the network I would buy if I was looking for one.

GT4 is irrelevant re GT3 prices and the anticipated more expensive 718 will be announced at Geneva with late summer deliveries in the UK around £75k basic.

As for the 992 GT3 deliveries in the UK will be a minimum of 2 years away with a likely 10% price hike. Whilst retention of n.a. is anticipated and hoped for by many this is not guaranteed as indicated by Autocar last week FWIW which categorically states it will be turbo.

JayK12

2,324 posts

203 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
FredBasset said:
What a truly idiotic post, how on earth can you know that.
Human nature and OPC attitude to test drives.
Test drove GT4, an OPC took me on a run that was pretty short, full of dual carriage ways. I was trying to get it up to temperature but didn't have they time, so I didn't open it up much at all. Im sure if i did start spanking it they wouldn't have said anything!

hunter 66

3,914 posts

221 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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600 cars , according to my OPC , 50% bought as investments , so will stay very low miles ....so a few out there .
As to preference about brakes Rosberg specced his GT2 RS steel , I also prefer steel but agree the investment market in the UK prefers Ceramic .

Yellow491

2,932 posts

120 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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hunter 66 said:
600 cars , according to my OPC , 50% bought as investments , so will stay very low miles ....so a few out there .
As to preference about brakes Rosberg specced his GT2 RS steel , I also prefer steel but agree the investment market in the UK prefers Ceramic .
Hi prof!
They aint investments,non of them,best investment is time in the seat as you do,even if it has steels and plastic;)

hunter 66

3,914 posts

221 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Haha Yellow yes close to 3,500 k miles on mine now and yes sadly been on track a few times as you know , so not a prime sale car anyway , even with Steel brakes . Main reason why investors will not buy a steel brake car is they know it would have been tracked which is a serious no no for a RS model .
Had some fun on Sunday bit drifting on a Private road , seems traction control not that effective .
Maybe a pre xmas get together with Macca .
Love the picture of the Hillclimb car .
As we know wealth is experiences not the stuff in the bank

PS2018

323 posts

74 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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This is the most 991 GT cars I’ve ever seen for sale on the Porsche approved locator (I am a mere spectator I might add!)
x39 GT3
x21 GT3 RS
x3 GT2 RS
x3 911R!

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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PS2018 said:
This is the most 991 GT cars I’ve ever seen for sale on the Porsche approved locator (I am a mere spectator I might add!)
x39 GT3
x21 GT3 RS
x3 GT2 RS
x3 911R!
I pointed this out recently, if you add the 997 gt cars and the gt4 the amount is pretty surprising!

Dave_T

190 posts

108 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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I-Mac said:
NewGT4 said:
Evening all, looking at swapping my GT4 for a 991.2 GT3. Love the GT4 but always wanted a GT3 and it would be a car that I would keep and use weekend/track. Now it has the manual gearbox this is the one I would like. Do you think it’s a good time to swap? I’ve seen prices lowering quite a bit on the GT3, do you think they’ll still drop a bit more this winter? Thanks
Almost word for word I have been thinking the same...…..and I think they (991.2 GT3) will drop yet. Everything is dropping except the very latest new things. 991.2; is not the newest thing now and plenty for sale, so easy to purchase one.... whilst some cars have sold quickly recently I suspect it is below what dealers/people are asking. Right now I would say that the GT4 is sounder financially than the 991.2 GT3, until the new GT4 comes out that is..... but then being a much cheaper car, it has less to fall. With the 992 now announced and speccable (is that a word? - it is now!) coupled to the usual internet gossip that the 992.1 GT3 could only be a year to 18 months away.....I wonder where 991.2 prices will end up? They still have the 991.1 to prop them up.....

I have been struggling with the exact same quandary…. :P
Exactly the same dilemma. Just sold my GT4 and bought a manual GT3, which I paid overs on. Spent ages trying to find the right car. In the end when I saw one I liked I just bought it, deal was done in 24hours. Sold the GT4 separately.

I loved the GT4 and mine was immaculate, owned by me from new, and had a terrific spec, but I don’t regret making the move. The GT3 is awesome.

I expect to lose a sack of cash in depreciation etc, but can live with that. You only live once and all that...


Edited by Dave_T on Monday 10th December 23:07

NewGT4

29 posts

77 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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I-Mac said:
Almost word for word I have been thinking the same...…..and I think they (991.2 GT3) will drop yet. Everything is dropping except the very latest new things. 991.2; is not the newest thing now and plenty for sale, so easy to purchase one.... whilst some cars have sold quickly recently I suspect it is below what dealers/people are asking. Right now I would say that the GT4 is sounder financially than the 991.2 GT3, until the new GT4 comes out that is..... but then being a much cheaper car, it has less to fall. With the 992 now announced and speccable (is that a word? - it is now!) coupled to the usual internet gossip that the 992.1 GT3 could only be a year to 18 months away.....I wonder where 991.2 prices will end up? They still have the 991.1 to prop them up.....

I have been struggling with the exact same quandary…. :P
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree, I can’t see the GT4 moving too much and even when the new one finally arrives I can’t see a good spec one going much below 65-70k. I also can’t see the 991.2 dropping much below 140k but do you think they will get closer to that sooner than later? Sometimes I wish I didn’t love Porsche’s so much smile

jcosh

1,172 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?

NewGT4

29 posts

77 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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jcosh said:
jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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NewGT4 said:
I-Mac said:
Almost word for word I have been thinking the same...…..and I think they (991.2 GT3) will drop yet. Everything is dropping except the very latest new things. 991.2; is not the newest thing now and plenty for sale, so easy to purchase one.... whilst some cars have sold quickly recently I suspect it is below what dealers/people are asking. Right now I would say that the GT4 is sounder financially than the 991.2 GT3, until the new GT4 comes out that is..... but then being a much cheaper car, it has less to fall. With the 992 now announced and speccable (is that a word? - it is now!) coupled to the usual internet gossip that the 992.1 GT3 could only be a year to 18 months away.....I wonder where 991.2 prices will end up? They still have the 991.1 to prop them up.....

I have been struggling with the exact same quandary…. :P
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree, I can’t see the GT4 moving too much and even when the new one finally arrives I can’t see a good spec one going much below 65-70k. I also can’t see the 991.2 dropping much below 140k but do you think they will get closer to that sooner than later? Sometimes I wish I didn’t love Porsche’s so much smile
The important part is you love Porsche’s, as others have said you are a king time dead.

av185

18,522 posts

128 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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NewGT4 said:
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?
No.

But there appears to be some variation in the front clearance even on unmolested oem factory cars.

NewGT4

29 posts

77 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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jcosh said:
jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?

NewGT4

29 posts

77 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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jcosh said:
jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?

hunter 66

3,914 posts

221 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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No but can drop the front for improved angle / downforce ,and use the lift to drive over the traffic calming bumps in London

Juno

4,481 posts

250 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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NewGT4 said:
jcosh said:
jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?
OMG DOH,its not about needing lift to make it go lower its a case of once you have lowered it you will need the lift to get you over every Rizzler Paper in the road as you are now running your car lower than stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Juno on Monday 10th December 21:27

Juno

4,481 posts

250 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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GT4RS said:
PS2018 said:
This is the most 991 GT cars I’ve ever seen for sale on the Porsche approved locator (I am a mere spectator I might add!)
x39 GT3
x21 GT3 RS
x3 GT2 RS
x3 911R!
I pointed this out recently, if you add the 997 gt cars and the gt4 the amount is pretty surprising!
And just wait until you add all the Ford Mondeos on Autotrader yikes

NewGT4

29 posts

77 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Juno said:
NewGT4 said:
jcosh said:
jcosh said:
Porsche911R said:
Robbo66 said:
No need for lift at all. Has no negative impact on resale whatsoever in my experience, and that’s through the 997/991 GT range.
I talked to Jzm about the GT3 and they said lift pretty much a must have for resale on the new cars.
, Infact they said you really need a high spec car for resale in London etc. And it’s pretty clear to see PCCB and cars with lift and LED are the best sellers and the best value.

Also as they ride a bit high for a track car, lift gives you options to set the car up for track and still have a usable car, ie a GT3 is a road car you can track to a very high level and lift gives you that option to really have a more focused geo and ride heights on track.

I would not buy a car without lift due to wanting a track geo up car but one I can still get on my drive or in my local ramped car park.

Gt3 is simply set up for the road oem, which is fine for most I guess. But add a nice setup and lift is a must have if you want to use it day to day but be at Spa at the weekend.

And also lift is a must have to sell a car quicker and easier than the next guy without.
Have you got lift?

Have you done a track geo set up in your GT3?

Have you done a track day in your GT3?
Did ever bother to answer these simple questions 911R?
Does the front lift go lower than a car without lift?
OMG DOH,its not about needing lift to make it go lower its a case of once you have lowered it you will need the lift to get you over every Rizzler Paper in the road as you are now running your car lower than stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Juno on Monday 10th December 21:27
Haha... sorry! Thanks for that wonderful explanation 🙂! What I meant was, does the front end sit lower on lift cars! I think you’ve answered my question!!