gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!

[Juno]

The car I bought from my OPC didn't even make it to the advertisement section,It was sold off market.I am sure that there are many more cars sold in this way. I asked my OPC to let me know about any interesting high spec cars that became available but there not getting that many at the moment surprisingly!!!

[Cheib]

Congrats to the people that have just bought cars.

Seems that we’ve now found a level where the enthusiast/genuine owners will buy cars. Makes total sense to me...we all knew that the car at RRP was underpriced....something like a 15 to 20% premium to RRP seems sensible and looks about right vs Gen 1 cars.

[Digga]

foxsasha said:

No, mines yellow but was at home. We were in a slightly shabby 2008 silver Vito van.

A GT3 and a van. All the vehicles you will ever need.

Enjoy and be sure to post some pictures. Car or van for that matter.

[Yellow491]

Cheib said:

Congrats to the people that have just bought cars.

Seems that we’ve now found a level where the enthusiast/genuine owners will buy cars. Makes total sense to me...we all knew that the car at RRP was underpriced....something like a 15 to 20% premium to RRP seems sensible and looks about right vs Gen 1 cars.

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,they are overpriced if anything,compare to a main stream cayman,boxter etc,where is the extra spent in production on a gt3?
This lot is going to bite opc and porsche in the backside,they are now depreciating,which is about time and hopefully get back to some sense of normality.

[Method123]

At £150k-£155k spec right they are sensible imo, like mentioned by most they are massively underpriced...I bought a GT3 17 plate traded it for a RS but went back to a GT3 18 Plate (and yes I paid overs) as it’s a more enjoyable car to own and drive daily...

[Porsche911R]

Yellow491 said:

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,they are overpriced if anything,compare to a main stream cayman,boxter etc,where is the extra spent in production on a gt3?
This lot is going to bite opc and porsche in the backside,they are now depreciating,which is about time and hopefully get back to some sense of normality.

I feel a 718 is over priced at £75k with options for a 4 pot ! that's more than I paid for my GT4.

GT3 engine is $75k alone

A GT3, well it has no equals if you want a Manual NA 500 hp car ! hence why people say it's under priced vs a Lambo or a Ferrari as an example.
Also they are NOT depreciating and I don't think they will for 2 years its free motoring, 3 sales this week from forum members paying circa £30k overs.

and even if they drop £20k that's a very cheap super car to run vs the other 2 brands.

[Double gauche]

Yellow491 said:

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,they are overpriced if anything,compare to a main stream cayman,boxter etc,where is the extra spent in production on a gt3?
This lot is going to bite opc and porsche in the backside,they are now depreciating,which is about time and hopefully get back to some sense of normality.

Sorry. That is simply a load of rubbish.

[av185]

Yellow491 said:

Cheib said:

Congrats to the people that have just bought cars.

Seems that we’ve now found a level where the enthusiast/genuine owners will buy cars. Makes total sense to me...we all knew that the car at RRP was underpriced....something like a 15 to 20% premium to RRP seems sensible and looks about right vs Gen 1 cars.

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,they are overpriced if anything,compare to a main stream cayman,boxter etc,where is the extra spent in production on a gt3?
.

Porsche deliberately underprice their GT cars for brand filtering down to vanilla models. So it would be remarkable and highly unlikely if there WASN'T a premium.

Boxsters and Caymans have a price ceiling with premium even on halo cars and e.g. for the flipped 981 GT4s this was just over £100k at the time.

In contrast the 911 effectively has no price ceiling with premium, as early 911.2 GT2 RS prices will prove. This is one of the reasons why Porsche will in the short/medium term drop the Caysters and concentrate on the more profitable 911 which will be their only sports car.

Good car that the GT4 undoubtedly is at the price, it is certainly no GT3 which is why the GT3 is c50% more expensive...and worth every penny.

Even with current premiums, the 991.2 GT3 has very few rivals and it is probable that once the usual number of GT3s are flipped, prices of proper spec cars will rise into next Spring as happened with the 991.1 GT3 and GT4 at the time.

[isaldiri]

Yellow491 said:

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,.

I'd have to agree with cheib. At £15-20k overs now it's more or less equivalent to the EU prices which is where the UK rrp should have been imo as EU cars started at €~150k list iirc vs £110k ish I think.

[throt]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Exactly, 100% correct.

My guy told me the same. Very little to be had profit wise in a GT3. That’s why the part ex’s play a big part.

[Yellow491]

Double gauche said:

Yellow491 said:

Sorry i dont get your man maths,they are not undrpriced,they have rrp for a reason,they are overpriced if anything,compare to a main stream cayman,boxter etc,where is the extra spent in production on a gt3?
This lot is going to bite opc and porsche in the backside,they are now depreciating,which is about time and hopefully get back to some sense of normality.

Sorry. That is simply a load of rubbish.

Mmmm,great reply.
A gt3 engine at manufacture costs is not much more than other engines,porsche also would not make cars if no profit in them.
Yes i get the euro rrp is more,but saying they are underpriced i dont get,they will start depreciating,they are still alot of money for what they are,mass produced.
They will also being shareing more platforms soon,porsche always said there was more profit in a 911.

[av185]

Method123 said:

At £150k-£155k spec right they are sensible imo, like mentioned by most they are massively underpriced...I bought a GT3 17 plate traded it for a RS but went back to a GT3 18 Plate (and yes I paid overs) as it’s a more enjoyable car to own and drive daily...

Presumably the '17' plate was actually a 67 reg not 17 as I wasn't aware there were any pre September 2017 registered UK 991.2 GT3s?

[Method123]

av185 said:

Method123 said:

At £150k-£155k spec right they are sensible imo, like mentioned by most they are massively underpriced...I bought a GT3 17 plate traded it for a RS but went back to a GT3 18 Plate (and yes I paid overs) as it’s a more enjoyable car to own and drive daily...

Presumably the '17' plate was actually a 67 reg not 17 as I wasn't aware there were any pre September 2017 registered UK 991.2 GT3s?

The original GT3 was a 17 Plate and the RS was a 18 plate and now my new GT3 is a 17 Plate....

[Method123]

Method123 said:

av185 said:

Method123 said:

At £150k-£155k spec right they are sensible imo, like mentioned by most they are massively underpriced...I bought a GT3 17 plate traded it for a RS but went back to a GT3 18 Plate (and yes I paid overs) as it’s a more enjoyable car to own and drive daily...

Presumably the '17' plate was actually a 67 reg not 17 as I wasn't aware there were any pre September 2017 registered UK 991.2 GT3s?

The original GT3 was a 17 Plate and the RS was a 18 plate and now my new GT3 is a 17 Plate....

[Method123]

Method123 said:

Method123 said:

av185 said:

Method123 said:

At £150k-£155k spec right they are sensible imo, like mentioned by most they are massively underpriced...I bought a GT3 17 plate traded it for a RS but went back to a GT3 18 Plate (and yes I paid overs) as it’s a more enjoyable car to own and drive daily...

Presumably the '17' plate was actually a 67 reg not 17 as I wasn't aware there were any pre September 2017 registered UK 991.2 GT3s?

The original GT3 was a 17 Plate and the RS was a 18 plate and now my new GT3 is a 17 Plate....

[av185]

Rare car on a 17 then!

Nice gold wheels too on your ex white RS!

Be interested to hear how the GT3 compares to the RS from an owners perspective? Particularly the engine.

Edited by av185 on Monday 22 October 13:40

[Method123]

av185 said:

Rare car on a 17 then!

Nice gold wheels too on your ex white RS!

Be interested to hear how the GT3 compares to the RS from an owners perspective? Particularly the engine.

Edited by av185 on Monday 22 October 13:40

The engine is basically the same 4.0l lump, the GT3 turns in better and feels more nimble imo when using it for what 90% of people use them for..the odd track day and the odd euro adventure,

I covered 6k mileage in the GT3 and 4K in the RS...here is the contradiction coming the RS around the track at the top end and when you are really on it feels ones of the most planted cars I have ever tracked I have tracked a few!

The RS is great if you want to garage it and track it regularly but as for a Sunday drive out there are better cars...shame most won’t ever see a track or In some cases the outdoors! Lol


So yes the RS is a very capable car and was a prilivage to have owned and driven one around Europe but I would take a standard Gt3 everyday of the week.....

[Cheib]

throt said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Exactly, 100% correct.

My guy told me the same. Very little to be had profit wise in a GT3. That’s why the part ex’s play a big part.

I think the margins on 911's are the same across the board and will be a single digit % I think. Don't know what the deal is on the options I suspect they are different from the basic car because they are ( I understand) all invoiced individually between OPC and Supplier (no idea whether that is Porsche GB or AG).

[Taffy66]

Method123 said:

The engine is basically the same 4.0l lump, the GT3 turns in better and feels more nimble imo when using it for what 90% of people use them for..the odd track day and the odd euro adventure,

I covered 6k mileage in the GT3 and 4K in the RS...here is the contradiction coming the RS around the track at the top end and when you are really on it feels ones of the most planted cars I have ever tracked I have tracked a few!

The RS is great if you want to garage it and track it regularly but as for a Sunday drive out there are better cars...shame most won’t ever see a track or In some cases the outdoors! Lol


So yes the RS is a very capable car and was a prilivage to have owned and driven one around Europe but I would take a standard Gt3 everyday of the week.....

As a 991.2GT3 owner and in the running to get a new RS if a second batch comes, i find your comments interesting..I also think the GT3 is a great car and whether its worth it to upgrade to the RS, or just keep my GT3 and put a Titanium exhaust and ultra light wheels on..
Could you be more specific regarding why you think the GT3 is better..Does the RS feel faster or just the same as the GT3.?

[TDT]

Taffy66 said:

As a 991.2GT3 owner and in the running to get a new RS if a second batch comes, i find your comments interesting..I also think the GT3 is a great car and whether its worth it to upgrade to the RS, or just keep my GT3 and put a Titanium exhaust and ultra light wheels on..
Could you be more specific regarding why you think the GT3 is better..Does the RS feel faster or just the same as the GT3.?

I'd imagine its about degrees of involvement and feedback.

The RS is a now a weapon to be deployed on a track.... It's all about the lap time and getting around as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Locked down and laser focussed.
The GT3 will probably give a greater sense of involvement or feedback earlier as its limits are lower vs the RS which then mean depending on how you drive you're going to be brushing these limits (even on the road) more often and feeling like you are getting the most out of the car - which makes it more exciting. It's a game of diminishing returns dependant on your own limit/preferences/wallet.

In my rides out in RS's 991.1 and 991.2 - I've been impressed by the speed - and for the act of chasing a quick lap - yes that will be fun... but then I think about am I having the same kind of fun that i have in my little GT4... at present I don't think so - and maybe that changes as my experiences grow.

The old adage... more fun to drive a slow car, fast, that a fast car, slow.... (relatively speaking)

Edited by TDT on Monday 22 October 15:07