gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!
Discussion
Juno said:
Once these are in the hands of the new owners as keeper cars I don't think there will be many good spec cars available come spring next year.
I think you’re right and also I think we sometimes forget about the sheer number of possible bloody variations on the theme there are. Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
Manual
PDK
Manual CS
PDK CS
Touring
5 different “configurations”before you get into. Brakes, Seats, LIft, Colour etc etc
Juno said:
Yes I have said something similar on a previous thread, when you break it down there really aren't that many good cars about. The OPC group I use don't have a single .2 GT3 car for sale and the one i bought didn't even make it to be advertised. Once these are in the hands of the new owners as keeper cars I don't think there will be many good spec cars available come spring next year.
there are 40+ GT3s on the classifieds as we speak... And winter hasn't really arrived yet... Plus with the continuous fall in overs (the cheapest was 185k a few months ago) then the people who maybe thought they could make a bundle flipping after driving the car for a year will want to ditch the car before the even more overs are lost... or before they add too many miles to it. OPC or not makes little difference due to the new car warranty being in place anyway, so there are plenty of "good spec" cars on the market... I would definitely say its a buyers market at the moment, and I don't see that changing approaching the spring with the uncertainty of brexit... Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
cypriot said:
Juno said:
Yes I have said something similar on a previous thread, when you break it down there really aren't that many good cars about. The OPC group I use don't have a single .2 GT3 car for sale and the one i bought didn't even make it to be advertised. Once these are in the hands of the new owners as keeper cars I don't think there will be many good spec cars available come spring next year.
there are 40+ GT3s on the classifieds as we speak... And winter hasn't really arrived yet... Plus with the continuous fall in overs (the cheapest was 185k a few months ago) then the people who maybe thought they could make a bundle flipping after driving the car for a year will want to ditch the car before the even more overs are lost... or before they add too many miles to it. OPC or not makes little difference due to the new car warranty being in place anyway, so there are plenty of "good spec" cars on the market... I would definitely say its a buyers market at the moment, and I don't see that changing approaching the spring with the uncertainty of brexit... Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
Yes this "good spec" "poor spec " story , everyone has different idea .... we are not in the Corbyn utopia yet , where we must all conform .EEEk the thought of using the bus !!!
So everyone still can have a choice still and yes some prefer steel brakes for hard tack use ( As AP suggested ) etc etc .
So everyone still can have a choice still and yes some prefer steel brakes for hard tack use ( As AP suggested ) etc etc .
hornbaek said:
TDT said:
Taffy66 said:
As a 991.2GT3 owner and in the running to get a new RS if a second batch comes, i find your comments interesting..I also think the GT3 is a great car and whether its worth it to upgrade to the RS, or just keep my GT3 and put a Titanium exhaust and ultra light wheels on..
Could you be more specific regarding why you think the GT3 is better..Does the RS feel faster or just the same as the GT3.?
I'd imagine its about degrees of involvement and feedback.Could you be more specific regarding why you think the GT3 is better..Does the RS feel faster or just the same as the GT3.?
The RS is a now a weapon to be deployed on a track.... It's all about the lap time and getting around as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Locked down and laser focussed.
The GT3 will probably give a greater sense of involvement or feedback earlier as its limits are lower vs the RS which then mean depending on how you drive you're going to be brushing these limits (even on the road) more often and feeling like you are getting the most out of the car - which makes it more exciting. It's a game of diminishing returns dependant on your own limit/preferences/wallet.
In my rides out in RS's 991.1 and 991.2 - I've been impressed by the speed - and for the act of chasing a quick lap - yes that will be fun... but then I think about am I having the same kind of fun that i have in my little GT4... at present I don't think so - and maybe that changes as my experiences grow.
The old adage... more fun to drive a slow car, fast, that a fast car, slow.... (relatively speaking)
Edited by TDT on Monday 22 October 15:07
- it is noisy inside
- the 918 seats are kind of marmite
- rearward visibility is limited and there are no parking sensors/camera
- its very sensitive to grooves in the road
- it looks pretty hardcore
- the wing - its big
It has clear advantages as well:
- it has road presense over the GT3 (which looks like a normal 991)
- it has a huge amount of downforce. I drive a lot on the Autobahn and at 250+ you really feel the difference
- front end is much more stable at high speeds and at turn in.
- braking stability from high speed
For the UK, the "normal" GT3 might be the best choice. On the Continent where you can stretch the legs of the car a bit more, and on track days the RS has the upper hand. Just my opinion btw.
Juno said:
av185 said:
Juno said:
Are we buying these cars or talking about them 
Come on guys, crack on there's 138 for sale
And a quick look at the OPC stock reveals only 21 winged 991.2 GT3s for sale at varying prices. Come on guys, crack on there's 138 for sale
Many are very badly specced.
5 red, 3 GT silver, 3 white, 3 sapphire, 2 carmine, 2 grey, 1 yellow , 1 black, 1 Miami.
Interesting there are 13 PDK and only 8 'manuels.'
Even more interesting is that there are only 3 good spec PDK clubsports and 3 good spec 'manuel' clubsports.
Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, front lift, clubsport, bose, extended leather, front and rear park sensors, light design pack, cruise, dimming mirrors, upgraded paint, digital radio. These are what I would class as basic items on a car of this value. Obviously being a Porsche most enthusiasts would then fine tune their spec even further to their personal preference.
The problem we are faced with in today’s Porsche gt world is a lot of people spec there cars based on resale value or what they think or get told is a good resale spec.
IMO there’s no right or wrong spec it’s all down to personal preference.
GT4RS said:
Juno said:
av185 said:
Juno said:
Are we buying these cars or talking about them
Come on guys, crack on there's 138 for sale
And a quick look at the OPC stock reveals only 21 winged 991.2 GT3s for sale at varying prices. Come on guys, crack on there's 138 for sale
Many are very badly specced.
5 red, 3 GT silver, 3 white, 3 sapphire, 2 carmine, 2 grey, 1 yellow , 1 black, 1 Miami.
Interesting there are 13 PDK and only 8 'manuels.'
Even more interesting is that there are only 3 good spec PDK clubsports and 3 good spec 'manuel' clubsports.
Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, front lift, clubsport, bose, extended leather, front and rear park sensors, light design pack, cruise, dimming mirrors, upgraded paint, digital radio. These are what I would class as basic items on a car of this value. Obviously being a Porsche most enthusiasts would then fine tune their spec even further to their personal preference.
The problem we are faced with in today’s Porsche gt world is a lot of people spec there cars based on resale value or what they think or get told is a good resale spec.
IMO there’s no right or wrong spec it’s all down to personal preference.
Point is , most people and therefore the market as a whole, would broadly agree with your spec
If lots of those bits are missing on the car, it will be more difficult to sell.
I'm reminded of the Life of Brian sketch - ' were all individuals'!!!....
hunter 66 said:
Yes this "good spec" "poor spec " story , everyone has different idea .... we are not in the Corbyn utopia yet , where we must all conform .EEEk the thought of using the bus !!!
So everyone still can have a choice still and yes some prefer steel brakes for hard tack use ( As AP suggested ) etc etc .
yes I have been drilled to death about poor spec and good spec as terms to use..So everyone still can have a choice still and yes some prefer steel brakes for hard tack use ( As AP suggested ) etc etc .
SO have reverted to low spec or high spec as it upsets people to say poor spec.
A low spec car does not upset any one, but the word poor spec does as it might have been the ideal spec for the buyer.
A low spec car is what it is, low list price of options ie below £10k imo , over a high spec car with £25k options.
People seem to want the higher spec cars 2nd hand though and those seem to be the cars moving as the "low" spec cars seem VERY poor value wanting £30k overs, when a high spec car can be had for £20k overs.
Great , except I specced the car for my usage and do not care about the next guy , if I did I would not use it, as these days high milage ( over a few k miles it seems ) is the main issue.
The overs thing is a nonsense and I would prefer to use the car and have the usual depreciation .
Just my thoughts on life and cars .... might seem strange but life is for living and GT cars are there to be abused .
The overs thing is a nonsense and I would prefer to use the car and have the usual depreciation .
Just my thoughts on life and cars .... might seem strange but life is for living and GT cars are there to be abused .
GT4RS said:
For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, front park sensors, light design pack, dimming mirrors, upgraded paint, . These are what I would class as basic items on a car of this value.
I have never ticked those box's but spent £25k on options.you cannot have front park sensors, but over all park sensors are naff, I liked the way the GT4 was no option for them :-)
Light design pack imo fluff lol
Dimming mirrors the same, I like to be able to see the police cars at night so auto dimming not for me, if it's bight I can click the mirror tilt switch !
Upgraded paint, well I have no idea what Upgraded paint is ! I wanted yellow on my GT4 and red on my GT3 it's paint you just spec the colour you want.
But my car was £135k and I would say it's high spec due to the price, but it seems not for you in the spec I have.
Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, front park sensors, light design pack, dimming mirrors, upgraded paint, . These are what I would class as basic items on a car of this value.
I have never ticked those box's but spent £25k on options.you cannot have front park sensors, but over all park sensors are naff, I liked the way the GT4 was no option for them :-)
Light design pack imo fluff lol
Dimming mirrors the same, I like to be able to see the police cars at night so auto dimming not for me, if it's bight I can click the mirror tilt switch !
Upgraded paint, well I have no idea what Upgraded paint is ! I wanted yellow on my GT4 and red on my GT3 it's paint you just spec the colour you want.
But my car was £135k and I would say it's high spec due to the price, but it seems not for you in the spec I have.
Rear park sensors are fine, I have the camera on my macan gts and I hate it. All I want to do is be able to get it into the garage without hitting a motorbike.
Light design as I want to be able to see the office keys on the floor better when needed, leave them on the floor as I don’t like marking the door pockets.
Dimming mirror as I would use it all year and I can’t be bothered to flick the tilt switch, I would only expect to do that on a classic car nowadays.
When I refer to a special colour I mean not one of the free colours Porsche offer as they do nothing for me personally.
hunter 66 said:
Great , except I specced the car for my usage and do not care about the next guy , if I did I would not use it, as these days high milage ( over a few k miles it seems ) is the main issue.
The overs thing is a nonsense and I would prefer to use the car and have the usual depreciation .
Just my thoughts on life and cars .... might seem strange but life is for living and GT cars are there to be abused .
But you are a very wealthy person so your idea's over mr Ave are not the norm.The overs thing is a nonsense and I would prefer to use the car and have the usual depreciation .
Just my thoughts on life and cars .... might seem strange but life is for living and GT cars are there to be abused .
GT4RS said:
I find it interesting that certain people keep going on about a cars spec, what you need to remember is a specification of a Porsche is a very personal thing, this is why I personally struggle to buy used Porsche’s, only ever bought one used 911. What someone thinks is a perfect spec may be of no interest to another.
For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, bose, front and rear park sensors, upgraded paint.
Bose would be the last option most would spec on a gen 2 GT3. Crazy price as an extra and impossible to hear any advantages over the standard system with the glorious engine noise. Don't forget the gen 2 has alot less sound insulation than the gen 1 too. Leave the Bose for the Turbo S.For example I would consider a reasonable spec gt3 road car to have at least the following items, bose, front and rear park sensors, upgraded paint.
Parking sensors on a GT3?? If you cannot drive at 1 mph backwards without crashing what chance have you going forwards at even normal speeds?
Upgraded paint? Depends which one.
Juno said:
Once these are in the hands of the new owners as keeper cars I don't think there will be many good spec cars available come spring next year.
Yep happened with the gen1 GT3 and subsequently with the GT4. Edited by Juno on Wednesday 24th October 10:09
The gen 2 GT3 will be no different.
av185 said:
Bose would be the last option most would spec on a gen 2 GT3. Crazy price as an extra and impossible to hear any advantages over the standard system with the glorious engine noise. Don't forget the gen 2 has alot less sound insulation than the gen 1 too. Leave the Bose for the Turbo S.
Parking sensors on a GT3?? If you cannot drive at 1 mph backwards without crashing what chance have you going forwards at even normal speeds?
Upgraded paint? Depends which one.
Agreed; hence I sought out a clubsport, std stereo, no leather, std stereo, etc - perfectly fine for me Parking sensors on a GT3?? If you cannot drive at 1 mph backwards without crashing what chance have you going forwards at even normal speeds?
Upgraded paint? Depends which one.
Upgraded paint ? what's that...?
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