991 GT3.2 Collection Day Tomorrow
Discussion
RSVP911 said:
browngt3 said:
Frrair said:
2/3rds of them are yours to yourself though.
A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
I have an idea. Let's discuss values, we'll be at twenty pages in no time A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
And
Please do not worry for me,my doctor has read the entire thread and booked me in on Monday for a “check up from the neck up” whatever that is
Juno said:
RSVP911 said:
browngt3 said:
Frrair said:
2/3rds of them are yours to yourself though.
A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
I have an idea. Let's discuss values, we'll be at twenty pages in no time A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
And
Please do not worry for me,my doctor has read the entire thread and booked me in on Monday for a “check up from the neck up” whatever that is
I really hope you like the car - they are very fine machines ; an attack on the senses
Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 20th October 08:38
RSVP911 said:
Juno said:
RSVP911 said:
browngt3 said:
Frrair said:
2/3rds of them are yours to yourself though.
A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
I have an idea. Let's discuss values, we'll be at twenty pages in no time A virtual pint if you can get it to ten pages.
A virtual tank full of Shell super unleaded if you make twenty pages.
And
Please do not worry for me,my doctor has read the entire thread and booked me in on Monday for a “check up from the neck up” whatever that is
I really hope you like the car - they are very fine machines ; an attack on the senses
Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 20th October 08:38
I’ve tried to take myself seriously in the past but since retiring and seeing myself in the bathroom mirror each morning I’ve concluded that it’s a pointless exercise
Life is too short and I have lost a few good friends recently so to hell with political correctness, grammar and general day to day B0110X
Will be out in the car later to experience some more of the differences between the old and new
Back to the masterpiece which is the engine
The only analogy I can think of to fully explain the vast difference between the two engines is that the 4.0 responds and is as savage as someone sticking a GRENADE up your back passage and pulling the pin out :
Yes the difference is really that marked and violent between the two and before you ask “NO” I’ve not tried the latter or I wouldn’t be here writing this
I really didn’t expect the difference would be so night and day and didn’t see what all the fuss was about
For those that haven’t yet or are thinking about it, I fully recommend you try it The engine not the F#*Kin GRENADE
Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 10:49
Juno said:
For those that haven’t yet or are thinking about it, I fully recommend you try it The engine not the F#*Kin GRENADE
With respect, Sir, you have already tried 'the hand grenade in the backside', - that was the 991.1 GT3 Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 10:49
And you survived!!!
Interesting that one or two others on the other threads claim there's little difference between the gen 1 and 2. I haven't driven a gen 1 so can't say but here we have someone going straight from the old into the new car and notices a huge difference!
I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
browngt3 said:
Interesting that one or two others on the other threads claim there's little difference between the gen 1 and 2.
the forum wannabes who don’t own them you mean ! And say on track one does not pull over the other ! Every day people state black is white, I have had enough of it to be honest. Re the engine; I have had both a 991.1 GT3 and I now have the .2 (also had a 991.1 RS).
I do think the engine in the .2 GT3 is better than the .1, but honestly, I wouldn't say it was night and day. Put it like this, I never got out of my 991.1 and said "you know what it's nice but I wish it was quicker". The truth is, in my case, the thing that would make the 991.1 much quicker isn't the 991.2 engine, but some lessons.
The thing I do notice about the two engines however is the noise; I found the 991.1 a real let down in this respect and added a SWBP (that fixed it) No need on the 991.2 , it sounds as it should straight out the box.
I also like the fact the known issues in the 991.1 are not yet present (hopefully never will be) in the 991.2 - however I'm sure that the vast majority of the 991.1 engines (especially the later replaced ones) will be absolutely fine - just nice never to have tho think about this.
991.1 or 991.2 - both great cars IMHO
I do think the engine in the .2 GT3 is better than the .1, but honestly, I wouldn't say it was night and day. Put it like this, I never got out of my 991.1 and said "you know what it's nice but I wish it was quicker". The truth is, in my case, the thing that would make the 991.1 much quicker isn't the 991.2 engine, but some lessons.
The thing I do notice about the two engines however is the noise; I found the 991.1 a real let down in this respect and added a SWBP (that fixed it) No need on the 991.2 , it sounds as it should straight out the box.
I also like the fact the known issues in the 991.1 are not yet present (hopefully never will be) in the 991.2 - however I'm sure that the vast majority of the 991.1 engines (especially the later replaced ones) will be absolutely fine - just nice never to have tho think about this.
991.1 or 991.2 - both great cars IMHO
mikep240 said:
Juno said:
For those that haven’t yet or are thinking about it, I fully recommend you try it The engine not the F#*Kin GRENADE
With respect, Sir, you have already tried 'the hand grenade in the backside', - that was the 991.1 GT3 Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 10:49
And you survived!!!
browngt3 said:
Interesting that one or two others on the other threads claim there's little difference between the gen 1 and 2. I haven't driven a gen 1 so can't say but here we have someone going straight from the old into the new car and notices a huge difference!
I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
It would be true to say I’m not measuring the difference in 10ths, feet or MPH, however the visceral difference the engine imparts on the senses is completely different and much better in my opinion!I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 18:54
Juno said:
It would be true to say I’m not measuring the difference in 10ths, feet or MPH, however the visceral difference the engine imparts on the senses is completely different and much better in my opinion!
It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Don’t worry it’s far faster then the old one.It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 18:54
Porsche911R said:
Juno said:
It would be true to say I’m not measuring the difference in 10ths, feet or MPH, however the visceral difference the engine imparts on the senses is completely different and much better in my opinion!
It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Don’t worry it’s far faster then the old one.It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 18:54
When I first see a straight line race on YouTube seeing the .2 spanking the .1 I was a bit sceptical but now I have a .2 I can really see it and now believe it.
The only thing the .1 has more of is that bag of nails noise within the engine. However, I did love that mechanical clatter, very GT3ish...
Juno said:
browngt3 said:
Interesting that one or two others on the other threads claim there's little difference between the gen 1 and 2. I haven't driven a gen 1 so can't say but here we have someone going straight from the old into the new car and notices a huge difference!
I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
It would be true to say I’m not measuring the difference in 10ths, feet or MPH, however the visceral difference the engine imparts on the senses is completely different and much better in my opinion!I can't imagine how they could possibly improve on this with the 992 but no doubt they will
It certainly reacts quicker to input from lower revs and you can definitely feel the benefit the increased torque.
In a drag race you may well need a RIZZLER paper to measure the differences but who cares,it’s all a bout happiness and it certainly makes me even more happy than the old one
Edited by Juno on Saturday 20th October 18:54
Of course the new model is faster than the old one and yes it's interesting to debate by how much - and without getting our knickers in a twist
All 911' s are brilliant and I have to say my much slower classic air cooled make me smile just as much. But there's nothing quite like that new engine bouncing off the rev limit at 9k. Just epic.
throt said:
, my judgement is accurate.
Current owner of car finds it faster/better/etc than the older car. Bit of a shock that Think people in general are almost always going to be viewing their current cars (whatever they might be) with rose tinted glasses, especially compared to the car it replaced.
isaldiri said:
throt said:
, my judgement is accurate.
Current owner of car finds it faster/better/etc than the older car. Bit of a shock that Think people in general are almost always going to be viewing their current cars (whatever they might be) with rose tinted glasses, especially compared to the car it replaced.
isaldiri said:
throt said:
, my judgement is accurate.
Current owner of car finds it faster/better/etc than the older car. Bit of a shock that Think people in general are almost always going to be viewing their current cars (whatever they might be) with rose tinted glasses, especially compared to the car it replaced.
The .2 is quicker. I know some like to justify their purchase but by heck I am not one of those.
I have a gen 2 and its definitely faster than the gen 1 but not massively so, which is what you'd expect with only an extra 25HP and 15lb/ft torque. However it has much more torque below 5k revs, much more so than the figures would suggest in fact..Its this which makes it feel ultimately faster in everyday use.I think the new engine suits the Manual way better than the old one would have due to the torque.
All IMMHO of course..!
All IMMHO of course..!
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