992 - anyone specing one yet?

[Taffy66]

The Guards red is a 991GTS not a 992..
Mine is Aventurine and looks stunning in that colour..Its quite grey in subdued lighting yet the green really pops in sunshine..My 992 looks really classy especially with the two tone Mojave/Black interior..
I still can't believe what a huge step up it is compared to the already brilliant 991.2..Arguably one of my favourite ever Porsches from a purely driving POV.

[Cheib]

Taffy66 said:

The Guards red is a 991GTS not a 992..
Mine is Aventurine and looks stunning in that colour..Its quite grey in subdued lighting yet the green really pops in sunshine..My 992 looks really classy especially with the two tone Mojave/Black interior..
I still can't believe what a huge step up it is compared to the already brilliant 991.2..Arguably one of my favourite ever Porsches from a purely driving POV.

I’ve seen an Aventurine car and thought it was a fantastic colour...would definitely be that or Gentian Blue if I was ordering one. My observation about OPC’s having cars is more about how slow things must be for OPC’s rather than about the 992 specifically.

[Taffy66]

Cheib said:

I’ve seen an Aventurine car and thought it was a fantastic colour...would definitely be that or Gentian Blue if I was ordering one. My observation about OPC’s having cars is more about how slow things must be for OPC’s rather than about the 992 specifically.

Interesting to see that at least two of the examples are VAT qualifying. I saw a MB 992 at my OPC when i picked mine up..Not for me personally but it really made the 992 pop especially with the black Pano roof..

[Cheib]

Taffy66 said:

Cheib said:

I’ve seen an Aventurine car and thought it was a fantastic colour...would definitely be that or Gentian Blue if I was ordering one. My observation about OPC’s having cars is more about how slow things must be for OPC’s rather than about the 992 specifically.

Interesting to see that at least two of the examples are VAT qualifying. I saw a MB 992 at my OPC when i picked mine up..Not for me personally but it really made the 992 pop especially with the black Pano roof..

MB is one of those colours that really needs the right spec...I can imagine the black roof worked well. Especially because it breaks it up a bit. I think it’s the same for the Boxster/Cayman....the brighter colours work better on the Boxster because of the black roof. Don’t think Miami works on the Cayman personally.

No idea what the implications are of VAT qualifying...see cars advertised with it but bot relevant to me so never looked into it!

[beedj]

I'm expecting to have to lock down my spec in next few days for an early Sept delivery, here's how it's looking currently:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLL6LB63

I'm still on the fence re Sports Chrono .... I borrowed a demo car for a day and it's blisteringly quick without SC, and I've always felt SC is a bit (dare I say) gimmicky?! Am I missing the point? - would I regret not having it? I guess re-sale is a factor but I'm not buying the car as an investment and it's another c.£1650..

[Taffy66]

beedj said:

I'm expecting to have to lock down my spec in next few days for an early Sept delivery, here's how it's looking currently:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLL6LB63

I'm still on the fence re Sports Chrono .... I borrowed a demo car for a day and it's blisteringly quick without SC, and I've always felt SC is a bit (dare I say) gimmicky?! Am I missing the point? - would I regret not having it? I guess re-sale is a factor but I'm not buying the car as an investment and it's another c.£1650..

Very nicely specced 992 for £100K IMO. Mine came to £103K and i thought i'd done well..Mine has no sunroof but i splashed out £800+ for the must have alcantara roof lining..With a glass roof paying for the alcantara roofing is a waste of money.
I've got Sports chrono on mine but i don't see it as a 'must have' unless you view dynamic engine mounts as a must have.I have got the -10mm Sport PASM which i feel is a 'must have' as i think it makes a big difference to the way the car handles..
My only option indecision was RAS as on the 991.2 i felt it was definitely a 'must have' however on the 992's totally new and much improved platform RAS is more a 'nice to have'..
Personally i would drop the privacy glass as i don't like it on any 911 and use the money saved to add the -10mm PASM.
I've seen Dolomite on the 992 and i think i really suits the car..I've gone for the new Aventurine green which i absolutely love..
Whatever spec you choose i can guarantee you'll be impressed by the way it drives..Its a quantum leap on from the 991.2 in terms of the way it rides,handles and steers..

[Jakob911]

Fwiw S chrono provides the dial on the steering wheel to assist you move between the cars various settings ie sports, sports + and individual rather than having to use the touchscreen every time. It has more functionality than a lap timer. I think it’s short sighted not to include it , very useful. Regards plus all of these functions including Launch control which is a hoot

Edited by Jakob911 on Sunday 26th May 13:36

[dvshannow]

Taffy66 said:

beedj said:

I'm expecting to have to lock down my spec in next few days for an early Sept delivery, here's how it's looking currently:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLL6LB63

I'm still on the fence re Sports Chrono .... I borrowed a demo car for a day and it's blisteringly quick without SC, and I've always felt SC is a bit (dare I say) gimmicky?! Am I missing the point? - would I regret not having it? I guess re-sale is a factor but I'm not buying the car as an investment and it's another c.£1650..

Very nicely specced 992 for £100K IMO. Mine came to £103K and i thought i'd done well..Mine has no sunroof but i splashed out £800+ for the must have alcantara roof lining..With a glass roof paying for the alcantara roofing is a waste of money.
I've got Sports chrono on mine but i don't see it as a 'must have' unless you view dynamic engine mounts as a must have.I have got the -10mm Sport PASM which i feel is a 'must have' as i think it makes a big difference to the way the car handles..
My only option indecision was RAS as on the 991.2 i felt it was definitely a 'must have' however on the 992's totally new and much improved platform RAS is more a 'nice to have'..
Personally i would drop the privacy glass as i don't like it on any 911 and use the money saved to add the -10mm PASM.
I've seen Dolomite on the 992 and i think i really suits the car..I've gone for the new Aventurine green which i absolutely love..
Whatever spec you choose i can guarantee you'll be impressed by the way it drives..Its a quantum leap on from the 991.2 in terms of the way it rides,handles and steers..

Test drove one while servicing the 991.2 GTS thought was a decent but on a short test driving didn’t find a compelling reason to upgrade

[dgswk]

Anyone spec'd the carbon roof yet? It was a budget buster for me, which apart from looks appeared to provide no huge performance gain (marginal kg's but high up I suppose). But it did absolutely look the part, esp on lighter colours.

[Cheib]

dgswk said:

Anyone spec'd the carbon roof yet? It was a budget buster for me, which apart from looks appeared to provide no huge performance gain (marginal kg's but high up I suppose). But it did absolutely look the part, esp on lighter colours.

I am sure it’ll be an absolute must have on the GT3 but can’t imagine the take up has been big on a Carrera S...sure it looks very cool though!

[Simon-Blue]

Hey all, the 1st draft spec was Crayon, satin black wheels, side skirts, PAS , sunroof, PSE in black, SC, etc submitted order to OPC

Now we are considering Miami Blue or Lizard Green with all of the above and RWS with alcantara bits an pieces

Dilemma indeed, questions so far are -

Sportex seats - what colour of stitching if not going crayon exterior?
RWS - yes or no?
Alcantara GT steering wheel or leather?
Keep all interior black if going bright colour?

We have Macan GTS, which we are keeping, and love the GTS interior with red stitching. Exterior Volcano Grey as feel that works

Ta
Simon

[IREvans]

Simon-Blue said:

Hey all, the 1st draft spec was Crayon, satin black wheels, side skirts, PAS , sunroof, PSE in black, SC, etc submitted order to OPC

Now we are considering Miami Blue or Lizard Green with all of the above and RWS with alcantara bits an pieces

Dilemma indeed, questions so far are -

Sportex seats - what colour of stitching if not going crayon exterior?
RWS - yes or no?
Alcantara GT steering wheel or leather?
Keep all interior black if going bright colour?

We have Macan GTS, which we are keeping, and love the GTS interior with red stitching. Exterior Volcano Grey as feel that works

Ta
Simon

Simon, sportex seats are a nice change to full leather. (It's a different type of material than was fitted in the Carrera T, as I thought it may have been more similar)

RWS - you need to drive a car with and without the option if you can, as I find the difference quite pronounced. It of course depends on how you want your car to behave. My car 992 is a C2S with RWS and -10mm chassis, and it's quite reactive. I've driven a C4S without either option, and found it quite lazy and imprecise in comparison.

An alcantara steering wheel would get my vote.

[Taffy66]

Simon-Blue said:

Hey all, the 1st draft spec was Crayon, satin black wheels, side skirts, PAS , sunroof, PSE in black, SC, etc submitted order to OPC

Now we are considering Miami Blue or Lizard Green with all of the above and RWS with alcantara bits an pieces

Dilemma indeed, questions so far are -

Sportex seats - what colour of stitching if not going crayon exterior?
RWS - yes or no?
Alcantara GT steering wheel or leather?
Keep all interior black if going bright colour?

We have Macan GTS, which we are keeping, and love the GTS interior with red stitching. Exterior Volcano Grey as feel that works

Ta
Simon

My thoughts were to go with one of the new colours, all three of which offer something different IMO..I have an Aventurine Coupe with Mojave/Black leather which is a stunning combo.
I think the Sportex with crayon stitching is the way to go on the interior and what i've chosen on my July Cabrio.
On the RAS which i'm a huge fan of and IMO is an absolute 'must have' on any 991.2 is not so important on the 992..I left it off both my 992S Coupe and Cabrio as i figured the new platform with the engine mounted 20cm more forward, coupled with a 45mm wider front track and 11% faster steering rack would be OK without it..
I think the -10mm PASM makes a very noticeable difference to how the 992 handles..The 4WD 4S dulls the steering more than previous iterations according to all reviews i've read..
I have the Alcantara steering wheel on my GT3 however given a choice i'd always choose a leather one but that's purely personal.

Edited by Taffy66 on Sunday 26th May 23:54

[Simon-Blue]

Cheers guys, deffo going sportex, have seen in launch night cars and also the demo we have driven, looks more ‘sporty’

Ongoing debate on the colour an my wife likes the idea of decals on the side - which surprised me!

My vote is Miami blue and keep stitches going crayon with alcantara wheel, arm rest, etc

Still need to drive both back to back - RWS and not, hopefully can do at PEC or OPC

Deffo speccing the way we want and not a resale in a few yesrs.

[Jakob911]

Taffy66 said:

My thoughts were to go with one of the new colours, all three of which offer something different IMO..I have an Aventurine Coupe with Mojave/Black leather which is a stunning combo.
I think the Sportex with crayon stitching is the way to go on the interior and what i've chosen on my July Cabrio.
On the RAS which i'm a huge fan of and IMO is an absolute 'must have' on any 991.2 is not so important on the 992..I left it off both my 992S Coupe and Cabrio as i figured the new platform with the engine mounted 20cm more forward, coupled with a 45mm wider front track and 11% faster steering rack would be OK without it..
I think the -10mm PASM makes a very noticeable difference to how the 992 handles..The 4WD 4S dulls the steering more than previous iterations according to all reviews i've read..
I have the Alcantara steering wheel on my GT3 however given a choice i'd always choose a leather one but that's purely personal.

Edited by Taffy66 on Sunday 26th May 23:54

Taffy I didn’t realize the engine was 20cm further forward. I’ve no idea how they managed that, absolutely no idea. I had a look to see if there was an explanation online by Porsche as it’s quite an engineering achievement but nothing which is odd.

I just found this piece which talks about moving the engine mounts forward from the rear by about 20cm not the actual engine itself.

Edited by Jakob911 on Monday 27th May 11:48

[mattuk77]

Jakob911 said:

Taffy I didn’t realize the engine was 20cm further forward. I’ve no idea how they managed that, absolutely no idea. I had a look to see if there was an explanation online by Porsche as it’s quite an engineering achievement but nothing which is odd.

I just found this piece which talks about moving the engine mounts forward from the rear by about 20cm not the actual engine itself.

Edited by Jakob911 on Monday 27th May 11:48

They moved the mounts 20cm forward, not the engine.

[Jakob911]

Ah thank you Now that makes sense, the subtle difference between engine mounts being moved forward and engine mounted forward by 20cm. What struck me as odd was the absence of Porsche discussing weight distribution if indeed the engine had been moved forward by a full 20cm in a car of its relative short length.

To the average Porsche 992 owner is the movement of the mounts perceptible versus say the 991.2 GTS if driven back to back?

[Taffy66]

mattuk77 said:

They moved the mounts 20cm forward, not the engine.

That's exactly what i meant by the engine being ''mounted 20cm more forward'', although could be easily misconstrued.

[franki68]

Taffy66 said:

My thoughts were to go with one of the new colours, all three of which offer something different IMO..I have an Aventurine Coupe with Mojave/Black leather which is a stunning combo.
I think the Sportex with crayon stitching is the way to go on the interior and what i've chosen on my July Cabrio.
On the RAS which i'm a huge fan of and IMO is an absolute 'must have' on any 991.2 is not so important on the 992..I left it off both my 992S Coupe and Cabrio as i figured the new platform with the engine mounted 20cm more forward, coupled with a 45mm wider front track and 11% faster steering rack would be OK without it..
I think the -10mm PASM makes a very noticeable difference to how the 992 handles..The 4WD 4S dulls the steering more than previous iterations according to all reviews i've read..
I have the Alcantara steering wheel on my GT3 however given a choice i'd always choose a leather one but that's purely personal.

Edited by Taffy66 on Sunday 26th May 23:54

I drove the 2s,but when I got out a chap driving a 4s asked to drive the 2s saying he didn’t like the way the 4s steered ,he got out of the 2s saying it was much better .

[Taffy66]

franki68 said:

I drove the 2s,but when I got out a chap driving a 4s asked to drive the 2s saying he didn’t like the way the 4s steered ,he got out of the 2s saying it was much better .

This makes complete sense and tallies with everything i've read in reviews..My OPC's SE said to me recently that the 9924S benefits more from having RAS compared to the 2S..This applied to the 992 and not so much for the 991.2 for whatever reason..
It was based on feedback he had from Porsche but he wasn't aware of the details..