997.1 GT3 - 911 Virgin

997.1 GT3 - 911 Virgin

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BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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short-shift said:
BertBert said:
I had a series of 7s until I got my 6RS. I'm finding it hard not to buy another one. Saw an academy car on the M1 this evening, had to look away. I think a garage with a GT3, a seven and a defender 110 is all a man could ever need.
Bert
Seriously, I find it astonishing to see how often the Seven + Porsche (and even Seven + GT3) ownership-combo pops up. They go together so well...

James
I own a 6GT3.

I tried my friend’s R400; it was only a 20 mins drive (empty roads in the Highlands) and my friend was ‘egging me on’ but I didn’t gel with it.

My perception was a car to be light on its feet (due to lack of weight) and only required ‘fingertips’ control; the reality, at least for me, was that I found the car very physical to drive.

I think it’s the quick but unassisted steering that threw me. The last time I drove an unassisted car was 20+ years ago in a Mini. Adding the tiny steering wheel, the whole car just felt out of sync to me.

Maybe because my body type is not ‘powerfully built’? My other friend, who’s similarly built to me (lightweight) tried the car also, and he loved it. confused

Before the brief test drive, I thought I would love a Caterham, but now I have no desire of ever owning one.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Unassisted steering in cars is very overrated imho.

MadMark911

1,754 posts

150 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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v8ksn said:
GT4RS said:
RC1 said:
v8ksn said:
Does anyone know who bought the GT Silver one from Ashgood?
it was your old one right?

Wasn’t this the car which used to have a rs rear wing?
Yes it was my old one.

No, it's never had an RS wing.

I still miss it frown
And I sold it to v8ksn in April 2013 - so the provenance was good. I bought it from Porsche mid-Sussex as an approved used car in June 2012 and didn't do enough miles in it (about 2,000 from memory), mostly because the then girlfriend hated the ride .... Silly really - I should have kept it - but it was a stunning car!

BertBert

19,063 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
I own a 6GT3.

I tried my friend’s R400; it was only a 20 mins drive (empty roads in the Highlands) and my friend was ‘egging me on’ but I didn’t gel with it.

My perception was a car to be light on its feet (due to lack of weight) and only required ‘fingertips’ control; the reality, at least for me, was that I found the car very physical to drive.

I think it’s the quick but unassisted steering that threw me. The last time I drove an unassisted car was 20+ years ago in a Mini. Adding the tiny steering wheel, the whole car just felt out of sync to me.

Maybe because my body type is not ‘powerfully built’? My other friend, who’s similarly built to me (lightweight) tried the car also, and he loved it. confused

Before the brief test drive, I thought I would love a Caterham, but now I have no desire of ever owning one.
That's very strange, I've never had a 7 that fitted your description of heavy to drive (having owned 4). But I could see that setting one up with too much caster would get it feeling very heavy. It's surprising how sensitive they are to setup. But in my ownership, I've only had light to drive caterhams.
Bert

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
I own a 6GT3.

I tried my friend’s R400; it was only a 20 mins drive (empty roads in the Highlands) and my friend was ‘egging me on’ but I didn’t gel with it.

My perception was a car to be light on its feet (due to lack of weight) and only required ‘fingertips’ control; the reality, at least for me, was that I found the car very physical to drive.

I think it’s the quick but unassisted steering that threw me. The last time I drove an unassisted car was 20+ years ago in a Mini. Adding the tiny steering wheel, the whole car just felt out of sync to me.

Maybe because my body type is not ‘powerfully built’? My other friend, who’s similarly built to me (lightweight) tried the car also, and he loved it. confused

Before the brief test drive, I thought I would love a Caterham, but now I have no desire of ever owning one.
Friend of mine had the R500 and in fairness did a good few track days but in the end threw the towel in .
Had enough of the general ownership hassle and went and bought a lotus with a tin top and a touch more storage where he now doesn’t get thrown off tracks for noise and can drive bike without getting p1ssed on.

The other issue is private sales which explains why so many are at dealers

Slippydiff

14,838 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
I own a 6GT3.

I tried my friend’s R400; it was only a 20 mins drive (empty roads in the Highlands) and my friend was ‘egging me on’ but I didn’t gel with it.

My perception was a car to be light on its feet (due to lack of weight) and only required ‘fingertips’ control; the reality, at least for me, was that I found the car very physical to drive.

I think it’s the quick but unassisted steering that threw me. The last time I drove an unassisted car was 20+ years ago in a Mini. Adding the tiny steering wheel, the whole car just felt out of sync to me.

Maybe because my body type is not ‘powerfully built’? My other friend, who’s similarly built to me (lightweight) tried the car also, and he loved it. confused

Before the brief test drive, I thought I would love a Caterham, but now I have no desire of ever owning one.
Hill climbing rarely sees fatalities, but on the odd occasion it does, the drivers frequently seem to be in Caterfields or their like.

I’ve never driven one (can’t stand the things personally ) but I passengered in a 300hp sequential ‘boxed Westfield once, and really couldn’t see the appeal.

And if it should all go wrong for some reason, I’d suggest any 911 built in the last 30 years would be a safer place to be. See 3rd post down here (Jingars) :

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Back in the day they called Westfields ‘flying coffins’ for those very reasons

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Slippydiff said:
I’ve never driven one (can’t stand the things personally ) but I passengered in a 300hp sequential ‘boxed Westfield once, and really couldn’t see the appeal.
I think it’s the romantic idea of building myself one, picking the colour, customising parts etc that attracted me. Now that I have driven one; it’s not for me.

I’d like to try an Elise next (S1/S2); having said that my 996 GT3 is so good at what it does (for my use i.e road trip / weekend spirited drive / occasional track day), it really is all the car I ever need.

Digga

40,334 posts

284 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
I’d like to try an Elise next (S1/S2); having said that my 996 GT3 is so good at what it does (for my use i.e road trip / weekend spirited drive / occasional track day), it really is all the car I ever need.
My mate's has Elises for years. He's recently also got a McLaren 650. If he had to have one fun car, he says it would be the current Elise S he has, for the same reasons he chose it rather than an Exige; the 4 cylinder engine, in that chassis, makes for such a light, responsive and involving car.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Digga said:
My mate's has Elises for years. He's recently also got a McLaren 650. If he had to have one fun car, he says it would be the current Elise S he has, for the same reasons he chose it rather than an Exige; the 4 cylinder engine, in that chassis, makes for such a light, responsive and involving car.
What did he pick the 650 up for ?

They are less than half off list last time I looked and 12c’s can be had for low 70’s I’m
Told

RC1

4,100 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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best track day ever in an s1.. ironically im convincing my bro to pivot away from jap bangers to hethel's finest as i type!

Digga

40,334 posts

284 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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FocusRS3 said:
Digga said:
My mate's has Elises for years. He's recently also got a McLaren 650. If he had to have one fun car, he says it would be the current Elise S he has, for the same reasons he chose it rather than an Exige; the 4 cylinder engine, in that chassis, makes for such a light, responsive and involving car.
What did he pick the 650 up for ?

They are less than half off list last time I looked and 12c’s can be had for low 70’s I’m
Told
In a word, cash. Never told me how much but I'd guess it was a good chunk more than they are now. He's had it a couple of years now, bought secondhand.

So yes, he's a bit peeved at prices now - McLaren have played a very short-term game in that regard IMHO - but he bought it as a keeper and he uses it too. We met up in a local town on Saturday night for dinner and he and his partner had parked just down the same side street as us in it. He looks after it, but is not precious about it.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Digga said:
In a word, cash. Never told me how much but I'd guess it was a good chunk more than they are now. He's had it a couple of years now, bought secondhand.

So yes, he's a bit peeved at prices now - McLaren have played a very short-term game in that regard IMHO - but he bought it as a keeper and he uses it too. We met up in a local town on Saturday night for dinner and he and his partner had parked just down the same side street as us in it. He looks after it, but is not precious about it.
My mate says they say ‘limited numbers ‘ at the outset to get buyers then flood the mkt with all variants.

Servicing is also a joke price wise but then people just buy them for the name so what do u expect

Just seen one on another forum 2014 totally loaded with carbon P1 seats offered at 110k




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Shaoxter

4,081 posts

125 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I've just bought one! smile Well I did the deal a couple of weeks ago but it got delivered today.

It was the red one at TH Boler, got an inspection done and came back pretty much all clear. The buckets are sexy af and I've always loved Guards Red. I wasn't really fussed about comfort or CS as long as it had buckets.

Inital impressions... well it looks really nice, won't have a chance to drive it until next week unfortunately!

kevs 172

344 posts

190 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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That is lovely, yes I’m with you as long as it’s got buckets.
Cheers

RC1

4,100 posts

220 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Its a good example and the paint is in excellent order and the spec is great. i made an offer a few weeks back but clearly not at the right level!

Who did the ppi for you and would you recommend them?

if i recall correctly, its owed a major in 2019 and is fairly standard apart from the dipped stuff and the battery?

looks superb with red paint and black wheels - well done!

Shaoxter

4,081 posts

125 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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RC1 said:
Its a good example and the paint is in excellent order and the spec is great. i made an offer a few weeks back but clearly not at the right level!

Who did the ppi for you and would you recommend them?

if i recall correctly, its owed a major in 2019 and is fairly standard apart from the dipped stuff and the battery?

looks superb with red paint and black wheels - well done!
Porsche Inspections (the guys who used to work with Peter Morgan before he retired) did the inspection and I would absolutely recommend them. Long report with lots of pictures and things I wouldn't have spotted myself. Sent to me same day they did the inspection.

Yes it's due a major in Sept this year but having looked at OPC pricing it's not too bad. The tyres were almost 10 years old so I ordered a set and got them to fit it prior to delivery. Not any mods I can see apart from the carbon dipped stuff and seems to have been well cared for and not tracked. The service book has all the stamps and a folder with all the invoices from new.

Out of interest what did you offer? For transparency purposes, I paid 75k.

RC1

4,100 posts

220 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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good result i offered 77 but was told they wouldnt be putting the offer to the vendor as it was too low... i think i showed my hand too early as the car had only been on the market a few days so you did well given they would have returned sub 70 to the vendor i would have thought?

Shaoxter

4,081 posts

125 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I enquired about it a while ago when it first appeared as well and had the same result. Followed up a month or so later and offered the same amount and got accepted biggrin

I think the fact that there has been a few recent listings at realistic prices (70-75k) helped my cause and made the seller a bit more eager to sell.

Digga

40,334 posts

284 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Lovely car. It is a damned shot cheaper to put in a cage (if vine were so minded) than unobtainable CGT buckets. Enjoy!