Brexit...GT cars....Don't Worry

[Dr S]

av185 said:

Dr S said:

alfapork said:

Don't rule out Norway. They know how to enjoy their GT cars.

You have to love the Norwegians for this. And I am pretty sure that neither the driver nor the guy on skis is worrying about contrast stitching and the car's value...

Can't quite make out the stitching colour but the red belts are undoubtedly the correct choice with the red calipers and red side decals.

But does it have illuminated carbon sills? Lap times suffer without them

[dougle_turbo]

Old people voted for Brexit, younger people voted to stay.
Old people die more often than young people.
Give it another 6 months or so and enough old people will have died, that another referendum vote would swing to remain.

[GT4P]

dougle_turbo said:

Old people voted for Brexit, younger people voted to stay.
Old people die more often than young people.
Give it another 6 months or so and enough old people will have died, that another referendum vote would swing to remain.

Older people tend to be a lot wiser and worldly ,in this day and age I find younger people a lot less informed in world affairs, more interested in reality tv and updating their Facebook page!
A lot of people higher up in the food chain and most politicians have their own agendas and are not interested in the 'people'.

[Digga]

GT4P said:

dougle_turbo said:

Old people voted for Brexit, younger people voted to stay.
Old people die more often than young people.
Give it another 6 months or so and enough old people will have died, that another referendum vote would swing to remain.

Older people tend to be a lot wiser and worldly ,in this day and age I find younger people a lot less informed in world affairs, more interested in reality tv and updating their Facebook page!
A lot of people higher up in the food chain and most politicians have their own agendas and are not interested in the 'people'.

There are lies, damned lies and statistics.

Young voter on Brexit: https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/9769602...

[cc3]

Sadly capitalism is starting to fall apart across the world. A few have got rich at the expense of the poor. You see it in these pages with people worried if they can get their next GT car so that they can flip and make more money than someone in poverty can earn in a year.
BREXIT was also a protest vote by some who feel left behind and we are seeing this in the demonstrations in France etc where unemployment is far too high as are taxes. The unelected running the EU have done nothing for these people. As the Socialist party in the UK say the EU is designed to protect big business so that those at the top of the tree get richer on the back of the poor

So when you get your next GT car and make a profit why not give it all to a charity for the homeless and then just enjoy the car instead of this relentless commentary of people only worried about how much their car is now worth

Edited by cc3 on Wednesday 23 January 10:54

Edited by cc3 on Wednesday 23 January 10:55

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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Not really. If you listen to the lad, he shrugs off the exit poll statistics. I can see why.

At every stage, when people have been asked to contribute to polls - before, or after an actual vote - they have lied. The liberal elite can answer why that is, but the sort answer is, everyone know the 'safe', default, socially acceptable (to the noisy left) answer and many go with it for any easy life. Then they vote differently in the polling booth. This is extremely well established now.

[WCZ]

surprised to read people here citing dyson as a voice of reason when he supports brexit, says he's committed to the EU then moves the manufacturing Singapore who have a free trade agreement with the eu

[Digga]

WCZ said:

surprised to read people here citing dyson as a voice of reason when he supports brexit, says he's committed to the EU then moves the manufacturing Singapore who have a free trade agreement with the eu

Two people and a tax base have moved.

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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Google the "Bradley effect" and come back to me when you understand what I was actually saying, rather than what you appear to think I am saying.

Then you can read this: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/why-i-lie-abou...

Then, perhaps, we might agree the phenomenon is pretty well documented.

[limpsfield]

Going back to the original post at the start of this thread, the pound hit a two month high against the euro today.

It would not surprise me at all if the £ recovered in the run up and post Brexit.

The absolute worst case scenario is known. The pound has been rising - we had the crash after the vote.

[RC1]

checked in hoping to see some interest stuff about gt cars because im buying one. bye.

[CarsandLeeds]

limpsfield said:

Going back to the original post at the start of this thread, the pound hit a two month high against the euro today.

It would not surprise me at all if the £ recovered in the run up and post Brexit.

The absolute worst case scenario is known. The pound has been rising - we had the crash after the vote.

It’s rallying because the market is seeing an increased likelihood of no hard brexit !! Whether you agree or not , consensus seems to be that in hard brexit gbp/usd goes to 100 ish and in no or soft brexit it could get to 1.50. So current move is purely based on probability of the latter increasing. Not in any way that no deal is fine !

[Dammit]

Digga said:

Not really. If you listen to the lad, he shrugs off the exit poll statistics. I can see why.

At every stage, when people have been asked to contribute to polls - before, or after an actual vote - they have lied. The liberal elite can answer why that is, but the sort answer is, everyone know the 'safe', default, socially acceptable (to the noisy left) answer and many go with it for any easy life. Then they vote differently in the polling booth. This is extremely well established now.

Why lie in a private poll? How would that advertise your choice to those whose opprobrium you fear?

That Spectator article is dreadful btw.

[cc3]

I have family in Germany and it is not widely reported here the amount of anti British feeling in Germany that has built up over recent months it is the main reason why Merkel who herself is a weakened politician is boxed in and reluctant to offer the U.K. any more concessions as that would further weaken her

Makes me think whilst I love buying Porsche why would I continue to do this if the relationship with Germany is starting to breakdown. Makes me want to look at McLaren and buy British

[Digga]

cc3 said:

I have family in Germany and it is not widely reported here the amount of anti British feeling in Germany that has built up over recent months it is the main reason why Merkel who herself is a weakened politician is boxed in and reluctant to offer the U.K. any more concessions as that would further weaken her

Makes me think whilst I love buying Porsche why would I continue to do this if the relationship with Germany is starting to breakdown. Makes me want to look at McLaren and buy British

Don't let's make the mistake of thinking we're back to fighting WW1 or 2 here. We, the UK, are still European. Our economic existence within Europe is not zero sum.

[Taffy66]

A million german highly skilled engineering jobs are dependent on the UK .We import twice as much from germany than we export back to them.Pretty much the same with France.
Germany should treat a trading partner who happens to be their second largest buyer of german built cars with more respect IMO.

[Digga]

Taffy66 said:

A million german highly skilled engineering jobs are dependent on the UK .We import twice as much from germany than we export back to them.Pretty much the same with France.
Germany should treat a trading partner who happens to be their second largest buyer of german built cars with more respect IMO.

From the ECB today:

• Euro area composite PMI falls to 50.7 just as it ends its monthly QE stimulus

• Composite PMI for Germany recovered a little to 52.1 "but the growth performance signalled by the index was still one of the worst over the past four years.

• Composite PMI for the economy of France was 47.9 in January even weaker than for protest hit December meaning that the private-sector is contracting

Perhaps of more concern:

• Manufacturing PMI for Germany falls to a 50 month low at 49.9

(For those who don't normally follow; any PMI below 50 indicates contraction.)

[Dammit]

So any second now (any second!) the German car makers will ride to our rescue. Thank goodness for that.

[nw942]

cc3 said:

I have family in Germany and it is not widely reported here the amount of anti British feeling in Germany that has built up over recent months it is the main reason why Merkel who herself is a weakened politician is boxed in and reluctant to offer the U.K. any more concessions as that would further weaken her

Why is that? Is that coming from the mainstream politicians, or is it just a media narrative? Or have people been looking at their Facebook streams?

From the UK media I thought Merkel's weakness/downfall was mainly based on the number of immigrants that she allowed into Germany? Which leads us to Brexit...

I think the only concession the UK want is the backstop due to its threat to the Union. I imagine making it time-limited will carry the vote. It has served its purpose as a litmus test for the future relationship, and something to get worked up about, so it can now be the 'thing' both sides compromise on.

Be interesting to see how long each side waits for the other to blink, although we need to retain goodwill.

[cc3]

Just read this article in today’s press

ALEX VON SCHOENBURG: We Germans owe Britain a great debt