991.2 gt3 - when is right to buy
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I dunno. Whilst a manual is fun, ive always enjoyed the smg in had in my m6 - a nice compromise. Especially on the motorway when someone sneaks up on you to undertake- just smash the accelerator in auto mode and let it pick the best gear for all hell to break loose. Plus the sound of those downshifts.....
We might be drifting into a stitching colour debate thread?
The GT3 is a track car. Porsche make far better cars for sitting in traffic or cosseting you to the office. Far more practical, with far greater comforts and far better real world performance (turbo charged engines).
The GT3 is a track car. Porsche make far better cars for sitting in traffic or cosseting you to the office. Far more practical, with far greater comforts and far better real world performance (turbo charged engines).
Edited by Macca993 on Wednesday 23 January 09:27
I specced mirrors and rain sensor wipers on my 991.1 GT3 in 2013. I felt guilty doing this on a car as focussed as the GT3 but it had "paddles for grandma's" so I thought I could pull it off....
Roll through to the 991.2 GT3 and mine is manual.
It doesnt have the wiper and dimming mirrors.
I found the rear vision mirror far too dark most of the time when its on its dimming setting. I often had to turn it off if traffic was in the distance so i could judge distance and depth and only turn it on if someone was sitting right on my tail. With a wing glare was hardly a thing anyway.
The rain sensor would move in its housing under high G braking at the race track and activate the wipers. It was a PITA braking hard off the back straight with the wipers doing a rotation. People must have thought it looked retard. My 981 GT4 had the same option (not my choice bought used) and did the same thing. So does my 991.2 Carrera 2 which I tried on the track.
The whle thing with a GT3 as an occassinal car is it needs to be different, immersive and envolving compared to our daily driver. My Alfa QV DD has an auto box and a turbo engine and auto everything. Its quite the opposite of the GT3 and thats the whole point really?
Dont even start me on the rear view camera! If you cant remember how to back a car into a park I reckon you should be only allowed to drive an EV LOL.
I stil fondly remember my 993RS. It had a key you put in the door to open it (remember those things!). You knew you locked it as it went
"clunk". It had no dimming this or auto that, lift or CCB. Resale hasnt been to bad for those things...
I think we have all become a bit wet.
If you are into driving not investing/Cafe racing/waxing then all you really need at minimum is the box of your choice, the seats of your choice, the colour of your choice and get out there and drive it. Prefferably on the track where it actually show the things it does better than its road siblings.
Roll through to the 991.2 GT3 and mine is manual.
It doesnt have the wiper and dimming mirrors.
I found the rear vision mirror far too dark most of the time when its on its dimming setting. I often had to turn it off if traffic was in the distance so i could judge distance and depth and only turn it on if someone was sitting right on my tail. With a wing glare was hardly a thing anyway.
The rain sensor would move in its housing under high G braking at the race track and activate the wipers. It was a PITA braking hard off the back straight with the wipers doing a rotation. People must have thought it looked retard. My 981 GT4 had the same option (not my choice bought used) and did the same thing. So does my 991.2 Carrera 2 which I tried on the track.
The whle thing with a GT3 as an occassinal car is it needs to be different, immersive and envolving compared to our daily driver. My Alfa QV DD has an auto box and a turbo engine and auto everything. Its quite the opposite of the GT3 and thats the whole point really?
Dont even start me on the rear view camera! If you cant remember how to back a car into a park I reckon you should be only allowed to drive an EV LOL.
I stil fondly remember my 993RS. It had a key you put in the door to open it (remember those things!). You knew you locked it as it went
"clunk". It had no dimming this or auto that, lift or CCB. Resale hasnt been to bad for those things...
I think we have all become a bit wet.
If you are into driving not investing/Cafe racing/waxing then all you really need at minimum is the box of your choice, the seats of your choice, the colour of your choice and get out there and drive it. Prefferably on the track where it actually show the things it does better than its road siblings.
Edited by Macca993 on Wednesday 23 January 09:29
Back to 'WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME TO BUY?'
That would be now, because when you get to mid Feb people will be back in the market place looking for the car they want for the start of the season, track days, road trips, etc all exciting things to look forward to starting early April.
Spec wise, the essentials are, Club Sport, a good colour, Silver, M Blue, White, PDK (as manual is good for one day, then gets tiring, and will loose you time on track days), extended leather dash, as the plastic dash is very poor.
The rest of the stuff that everyone goes on about not essential, reversing camera, lift, rain sensors etc.
That probably leaves you about four cars to pick from at the moment.
That would be now, because when you get to mid Feb people will be back in the market place looking for the car they want for the start of the season, track days, road trips, etc all exciting things to look forward to starting early April.
Spec wise, the essentials are, Club Sport, a good colour, Silver, M Blue, White, PDK (as manual is good for one day, then gets tiring, and will loose you time on track days), extended leather dash, as the plastic dash is very poor.
The rest of the stuff that everyone goes on about not essential, reversing camera, lift, rain sensors etc.
That probably leaves you about four cars to pick from at the moment.
Purple Man said:
Back to 'WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME TO BUY?'
That would be now, because when you get to mid Feb people will be back in the market place looking for the car they want for the start of the season, track days, road trips, etc all exciting things to look forward to starting early April.
Spec wise, the essentials are, Club Sport, a good colour, Silver, M Blue, White, PDK (as manual is good for one day, then gets tiring, and will loose you time on track days), extended leather dash, as the plastic dash is very poor.
The rest of the stuff that everyone goes on about not essential, reversing camera, lift, rain sensors etc.
That probably leaves you about four cars to pick from at the moment.
That's the worse spec car ever in the 3 worse colours imo lol , it's interesting to see what people like.That would be now, because when you get to mid Feb people will be back in the market place looking for the car they want for the start of the season, track days, road trips, etc all exciting things to look forward to starting early April.
Spec wise, the essentials are, Club Sport, a good colour, Silver, M Blue, White, PDK (as manual is good for one day, then gets tiring, and will loose you time on track days), extended leather dash, as the plastic dash is very poor.
The rest of the stuff that everyone goes on about not essential, reversing camera, lift, rain sensors etc.
That probably leaves you about four cars to pick from at the moment.
PDK owners vs manual owners are so wide apart, but it's a very UK thing this PDK in a GT3 option, one i'll never get. RS yes, standard car not ina million years.
don't forget guards red/Miami blue!
Im lazy most of the time, so PDK will suit me best. Agree, on that odd occasion, manual cant be beat.
Spec wise, I want PCCB - never had ceramics, so might as well try them out.
Club sport, not because I want to track it, but hey roll cage sounds cool, might look cool, will annoy the wife, and I'm probably never going to have one again.
Front lift for obvious reasons
Buckets - preferably folding so I can stuff in the back
Camera - again im lazy
black head lights
dab
Yes, i should get a turbo, but then on those summer days, i'd always be wishing I was in a GT3
Im lazy most of the time, so PDK will suit me best. Agree, on that odd occasion, manual cant be beat.
Spec wise, I want PCCB - never had ceramics, so might as well try them out.
Club sport, not because I want to track it, but hey roll cage sounds cool, might look cool, will annoy the wife, and I'm probably never going to have one again.
Front lift for obvious reasons
Buckets - preferably folding so I can stuff in the back
Camera - again im lazy
black head lights
dab
Yes, i should get a turbo, but then on those summer days, i'd always be wishing I was in a GT3
Macca993 said:
We might be drifting into a stitching colour debate thread?
The GT3 is a track car. Porsche make far better cars for sitting in traffic or cosseting you to the office. Far more practical, with far greater comforts and far better real world performance (turbo charged engines).
The gt3 is not a track car ,it is a road car that can be tracked ,and in its current guise if you spec it so it can easily be used all the time .The GT3 is a track car. Porsche make far better cars for sitting in traffic or cosseting you to the office. Far more practical, with far greater comforts and far better real world performance (turbo charged engines).
Edited by Macca993 on Wednesday 23 January 09:27
look whats popped up. shame its yellow - dont know what it will look in the flesh, but decent price and spec from an opc. Thoughts?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Edited by imycool on Wednesday 23 January 13:06
franki68 said:
The gt3 is not a track car ,it is a road car that can be tracked ,and in its current guise if you spec it so it can easily be used all the time .
agree , sort of, it's a road car yes, and Porsche make the RS as the track car.but as a daily it's a poor choice. it's very noisy, so very tiring, it has cups 2's so pretty much a non started atm, the grip from 8oc to 1oc is night and day, so to use a cup2 shod car atm would be a daft move.
hence I have never got comfort spec GT3's as the cars are not comfort cars imo.
Porsche911R said:
agree , sort of, it's a road car yes, and Porsche make the RS as the track car.
but as a daily it's a poor choice. it's very noisy, so very tiring, it has cups 2's so pretty much a non started atm, the grip from 8oc to 1oc is night and day, so to use a cup2 shod car atm would be a daft move.
hence I have never got comfort spec GT3's as the cars are not comfort cars imo.
yes there are better daily cars,the difference is if you spec it up with sports seats which on ph have become comfort seats ,you can use it more than just for a weekend drive.It does have a lot of road noise but I came from a gts into it and aside from the road noise it is as useable .With the pdk box it is not tiring to drive.but as a daily it's a poor choice. it's very noisy, so very tiring, it has cups 2's so pretty much a non started atm, the grip from 8oc to 1oc is night and day, so to use a cup2 shod car atm would be a daft move.
hence I have never got comfort spec GT3's as the cars are not comfort cars imo.
I've done 6k since march ,and I have been abroad for 7 of those weeks and haven't driven it the past 3 weeks and I have daily drivers .I use it every opportunity I have,I go to the gym in it (a 3 mile drive I turn into 20) etc .
Comfort as you refer to it here is relative ,a car with sports seats drives no different from a car with buckets ,even with a manual it drives the same (with the manual there is obviously another layer of interaction but the basics of the car are the same,unless your steering ,chassis,brakes,handling have all magically changed) I went comfort and I guarantee you this 100% ,you don't get any more pleasure out of driving your vehicle than I do out of mine,and I hazard a guess I get more use out of it than the vast majority who put buckets in the car .
imycool said:
look whats popped up. shame its yellow - dont know what it will look in the flesh, but decent price and spec from an opc. Thoughts?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Popped up, it’s been for sale for over 6 months! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Edited by imycool on Wednesday 23 January 13:06
Colours killing it
imycool said:
Reduced to 146k now. Apart from the colour, which actually is ok, the spec is great, and a great price from an OPC......
It was originally up for 155k, that’s a 9k drop in 6 months and it’s still not sold!
It’s possibly SOR so no real risk the OPC, it’s very well presented.
av185 said:
Yellow GT4s are hard work but yellow 991 GT3s are much harder to shift despite being a relatively rare UK colour.
And who would honestly want a yellow car with red stitching?!!!
Clearly specced by someone who’s used and enjoyed it and fair play to them for specc8ng a very individual car.And who would honestly want a yellow car with red stitching?!!!
As you say though.....that red interior (especially the red dials) with the yellow exterior is hard work
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