Rare to see a new manual GT3 with a pro on track.

[Porsche911R]

https://youtu.be/awuvYmTbhuM

nice time 1.24.8

991.1 GT3 same driver PDK 1.27.2

unknown driver .2 PDK 124.6

All about that engine, enjoy.

[browngt3]

They like their Manuels in the US!

Fastest colour but I'm sure steel brakes and comfort seats will have cost him a second or two

[IMI A]

Nice vid. Barely faster than a 1972 911

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9RoOO9QSzU

[Porsche911R]

IMI A said:

Nice vid. Barely faster than a 1972 911

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9RoOO9QSzU

forget HANS, fit a Ohlins damper to your head ;-)

[IMI A]

Interesting to compare almost 50 yrs of progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=189&am...

[NBTBRV8]

Porsche911R said:

https://youtu.be/awuvYmTbhuM

nice time 1.24.8

991.1 GT3 same driver PDK 1.27.2

unknown driver .2 PDK 124.6

All about that engine, enjoy.

I think Randy does all the driving.

I agree on the manual. I have a .1 and really miss not having a manual.

[Porsche911R]

IMI A said:

Interesting to compare almost 50 yrs of progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=189&am...

not in his car as it's honed to perfecting a lap and cost £££, what was more interesting is the 2008 GT3 RS at 1.33.13

But on here people say the new cars are not night and day , 10 seconds is a mighty gap from a 2008 RS to a basic GT3 today.

[Slippydiff]

Porsche911R said:

But on here people say the new cars are not night and day , 10 seconds is a mighty gap from a 2008 RS to a basic GT3 today.

Not really a valid comparison, as the 997.1 RS was the least modified/focused GT3 RS Stuttgart has produced, added to which 10 years may as well be a lifetime in modern car engineering terms.

Furthermore, a quick look at the recent PH test of the new Huracan Evo shows it to be a smidge quicker around Nardo's handling circuit than the Performante ...

[Porsche911R]

Slippydiff said:

Not really a valid comparison, as the 997.1 RS was the least modified/focused GT3 RS Stuttgart has produced, added to which 10 years may as well be a lifetime in modern car engineering terms.

you might say the 997.1 RS had the lightest and thus the sweetest engine, has the wider track and the big wing though !

I have talked to people after owning a lot of GT products the 997.1 RS is their fav car over older or newer.
so while on paper it was a bit of a wash out and got slated as being the same car, to drive it seems quite the reverse and maybe the best car ! and atm looks the best value for an RS.

Are people missing a trick on this model due to the "lease modded " comments punted about on forums.

[hunter 66]

Old style , true analogue , 996 GT3RS , no ABS max action at Sebring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73MvmT5C-ik

[Cunno]

Porsche911R said:

IMI A said:

Interesting to compare almost 50 yrs of progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=189&am...

not in his car as it's honed to perfecting a lap and cost £££, what was more interesting is the 2008 GT3 RS at 1.33.13

But on here people say the new cars are not night and day , 10 seconds is a mighty gap from a 2008 RS to a basic GT3 today.

That does seem a lot, where are the times coming from? Are they same day same driver?

Edited by Cunno on Wednesday 23 January 12:47

[Porsche911R]

Cunno said:

That does seem a lot, where are the times coming from? Are they same day same driver?

while other people might say how, I can tell you the cars are night and day apart.
although tyres have come on a long way also.

[Cunno]

Porsche911R said:

Cunno said:

That does seem a lot, where are the times coming from? Are they same day same driver?

while other people might say how, I can tell you the cars are night and day apart.
although tyres have come on a long way also.

Not the question I asked?

[Cunno]

Looks like you got your info from here:

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

[Cunno]

Looks like you got your info from here:

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

[LaSource]

Porsche911R said:

not in his car as it's honed to perfecting a lap and cost £££, what was more interesting is the 2008 GT3 RS at 1.33.13

But on here people say the new cars are not night and day , 10 seconds is a mighty gap from a 2008 RS to a basic GT3 today.

Not surprising...the 997.1 GT3 is barely faster than a well set up 996.2 GT3.....one would expect the 4.0 latest 991 with RWS etc to be materially quicker.


(not slating the 997.1...I do like them)

[Cunno]

LaSource said:

Porsche911R said:

not in his car as it's honed to perfecting a lap and cost £££, what was more interesting is the 2008 GT3 RS at 1.33.13

But on here people say the new cars are not night and day , 10 seconds is a mighty gap from a 2008 RS to a basic GT3 today.

Not surprising...the 997.1 GT3 is barely faster than a well set up 996.2 GT3.....one would expect the 4.0 latest 991 with RWS etc to be materially quicker.


(not slating the 997.1...I do like them)

Don’t disagree it’s what Porsche does each model gets quicker, but looking at the fastest lap times something is a miss with the 997.1 RS time as a M3 and R8 are showing to be quicker which isn’t correct. On a 1m 30 sec lap same driver / conditions I expected a 991.2 to be 5 secs-6 secs but not 10 secs.

[Porsche911R]

Cunno said:

Don’t disagree it’s what Porsche does each model gets quicker, but looking at the fastest lap times something is a miss with the 997.1 RS time as a M3 and R8 are showing to be quicker which isn’t correct. On a 1m 30 sec lap same driver / conditions I expected a 991.2 to be 5 secs-6 secs but not 10 secs.

look at the ring time 7.12 from standard 991.2 GT3 , 7.42 from the 997 GT3. it's 30 seconds ! or about a mile behind !

again the 997.2 run out hero RS 4.0 vs the 991.2 RS again 1 mile behind or 30 odd seconds.

[Cunno]

Porsche911R said:

Cunno said:

Don’t disagree it’s what Porsche does each model gets quicker, but looking at the fastest lap times something is a miss with the 997.1 RS time as a M3 and R8 are showing to be quicker which isn’t correct. On a 1m 30 sec lap same driver / conditions I expected a 991.2 to be 5 secs-6 secs but not 10 secs.

look at the ring time 7.12 from standard 991.2 GT3 , 7.42 from the 997 GT3. it's 30 seconds ! or about a mile behind !

again the 997.2 run out hero RS 4.0 vs the 991.2 RS again 1 mile behind or 30 odd seconds.

Ring 12.9 miles therefore 2.3sec a mile, willow spring 2.5 miles which equates to 5.8 sec difference per lap. Still think there’s something dodgy with the 977.1 RS time.
5.8 sec is massive, shows how much Porsche has moved on in a decade.

[LaSource]

Porsche911R said:

look at the ring time 7.12 from standard 991.2 GT3 , 7.42 from the 997 GT3. it's 30 seconds ! or about a mile behind !

again the 997.2 run out hero RS 4.0 vs the 991.2 RS again 1 mile behind or 30 odd seconds.

Sorry, are you saying a 997.1 GT3 is the same pace as a 4.0RS? weird.

Also, you do know the tyres will be totally different in that comparison and the delta much smaller on same tyres. But yes the latest car is quickest.