How to get a GT3/RS/GT2RS/Speedster etc from your dealer
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Skip to 13:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leTKx93DAEY
This is how it should be done. If I was running an OPC I would make an event out of an evening and invite (legitimate) customers to witness names being pulled out of an hat. Maybe charge everyone an entry fee for charity. It'd be a fun night night and take all the aggro away from the OPC.
This is how it should be done. If I was running an OPC I would make an event out of an evening and invite (legitimate) customers to witness names being pulled out of an hat. Maybe charge everyone an entry fee for charity. It'd be a fun night night and take all the aggro away from the OPC.
topboss said:
The aggro would still remain as you’ve then got a number of high spending customers who won’t get a car and want to know why.
Then you tell them it's tough s
t, and they are more than welcome to go buy a Jaguar, BMW, etc instead. I suspect they will still be high spending Porsche customers after the initial throw of dummy out of pram
there are some basic things they could do.
1: if an owners wants the RS, don't sell him a GT3 for 6 months to part ex for an RS and def don't sell them a GT4 !!
2: if a owner flips a car within 12 months, they get a 5 year ban on all GT products if not 10 years.
This flipping of cars people don't want for other cars is the biggest issue imo.
it's the same people getting ALL the cars time and time again, now that can only be friends of sales people, DP's or back handers.
And we all know all 3 go on, to what % we will never know.
But people should be limited to one GT car per 2 years imo and that's how I would run the business.
You end up with more GT owners and more happy clients, while only pissing off the corrupt and greedy.
sadly, it will never happen though, as where there is money to be made corruption creeps in.
1: if an owners wants the RS, don't sell him a GT3 for 6 months to part ex for an RS and def don't sell them a GT4 !!
2: if a owner flips a car within 12 months, they get a 5 year ban on all GT products if not 10 years.
This flipping of cars people don't want for other cars is the biggest issue imo.
it's the same people getting ALL the cars time and time again, now that can only be friends of sales people, DP's or back handers.
And we all know all 3 go on, to what % we will never know.
But people should be limited to one GT car per 2 years imo and that's how I would run the business.
You end up with more GT owners and more happy clients, while only pissing off the corrupt and greedy.
sadly, it will never happen though, as where there is money to be made corruption creeps in.
Phooey said:
Then you tell them it's tough st, and they are more than welcome to go buy a Jaguar, BMW, etc instead.
I suspect they will still be high spending Porsche customers after the initial throw of dummy out of pram
I disagree, I know several people who buy a number of ‘normal’ cars to get to the cars they really want (GT/RS/R) etc. The dealers make big money from these customers as the cars usually make their way back to them later down the line to sell again. Dealers can’t afford to lose these customers. t, and they are more than welcome to go buy a Jaguar, BMW, etc instead. I suspect they will still be high spending Porsche customers after the initial throw of dummy out of pram
Ultimately the dealerships are there to make money. They’ll do whatever they can to maximise their position as majority of business would do.
topboss said:
I disagree, I know several people who buy a number of ‘normal’ cars to get to the cars they really want (GT/RS/R) etc. The dealers make big money from these customers as the cars usually make their way back to them later down the line to sell again. Dealers can’t afford to lose these customers.
Ultimately the dealerships are there to make money. They’ll do whatever they can to maximise their position as majority of business would do.
several = 2, I never got this word in fact hate the use of it lol , imo it's better to offer GT cars to people without them, they will be better off long term when said people then buy Mancans due to not being pissed off, vs the 2 people you know :-) imo dealers can afford to loose these people as they gain may more clients over all, which means more service work and more repeat selling.Ultimately the dealerships are there to make money. They’ll do whatever they can to maximise their position as majority of business would do.
I agree with 911R, I think OPC’s should share the allocations round more....if you want an GT3 RS you can’t have a GT3 etc etc. No offence to anyone that got both cars but I think a lot of the issues would be avoided by OPC’s allocating GT3’s to customers and the six months later giving them an RS allocation so they get the GT3 back.
That would mean more happy customers and equally importantly it’s a lot easier to accept not gettiing an allocation when you don’t see flipped cars appearing in the dealer websites.
And the thing is Porsche can stop the flipping, in a similar scenario there’s recently been a big crack down on OPC’s selling cars to brokers who have been exporting cars to the RHD Asian markets. OPC’s have been given a black list of companies they cannot sell cars to and been told that they will lose commission on any cars that end up with those customers. They’re enforcing it by having people pose as customers at the Asian equivalent of Top555 or JZM and taking photos of the VIN number in the door shut. It’s been a big % of OPC’s sales of vanilla 911’s apparently,
That would mean more happy customers and equally importantly it’s a lot easier to accept not gettiing an allocation when you don’t see flipped cars appearing in the dealer websites.
And the thing is Porsche can stop the flipping, in a similar scenario there’s recently been a big crack down on OPC’s selling cars to brokers who have been exporting cars to the RHD Asian markets. OPC’s have been given a black list of companies they cannot sell cars to and been told that they will lose commission on any cars that end up with those customers. They’re enforcing it by having people pose as customers at the Asian equivalent of Top555 or JZM and taking photos of the VIN number in the door shut. It’s been a big % of OPC’s sales of vanilla 911’s apparently,
Porsche911R said:
several = 2, I never got this word in fact hate the use of it lol , imo it's better to offer GT cars to people without them, they will be better off long term when said people then buy Mancans due to not being pissed off, vs the 2 people you know :-) imo dealers can afford to loose these people as they gain may more clients over all, which means more service work and more repeat selling.
Several is actually more than 2 but that’s irrelevant lol Porsche and their dealers know the game better than most. The current process is tried and tested and clearly works for them. If dealers were able to risk losing these customers they wouldn’t spend so much time keeping them
The likes of Sytner running their annual Geneva trip via private plane etc for their VIP customers etc a lot of time/effort/money goes into keeping the VIP customers happy and buying. Most high end Porsche buyers will also be high up at other brands, it’s not so much a dealer issue, it’s a group wide issue.
As for Porsche themselves, whilst people are annoyed at the process it’s not exactly harmed their recent financials.
Edited by topboss on Wednesday 23 January 13:27
IMI A said:
Budflicker said:
AndrewD said:
What’s wrong with the other 3,976 threads on this topic?
Says the man who gets whatever GT car he wants whenever he wants one
Doesn’t change my original question - this subject keeps going on and on. Literally anything that could ever be written on the subject already has been. Probably more than once!
BarcelonaLewis said:
The video man is a little hypocritical on the subject of making money. "we don't get out of bed in the morning to help you make money"... "you can only have one if we've made loads of money out of you!"
At least he's being honest about it. Every dealer only cares about their bottom line.If I ran a dealership or any other business for that matter... I'm in it for my benefit not the benefit of my customers. If they happen to benefit along the way great, but ultimately I'll do what brings the most benefit to me. "Rewarding" loyalty to a brand happens in every business. Some restaurant chains have discount cards for regular customers, airlines run frequent flyer programmes.
Is it fair that if 2 of us fly with BA for example in economy, I can use a special check-in, by pass the security queues, get a full English breakfast with champagne, board first & have already reserved an exit row seat, whilst you can't & we've both paid the same for our ticket? This is BAs way of making more money.
You may not like the allocation process be that for Porsches, Rolexes or whatever, but actually your opinion is irrelevant & of no consequence.
Is it fair that if 2 of us fly with BA for example in economy, I can use a special check-in, by pass the security queues, get a full English breakfast with champagne, board first & have already reserved an exit row seat, whilst you can't & we've both paid the same for our ticket? This is BAs way of making more money.
You may not like the allocation process be that for Porsches, Rolexes or whatever, but actually your opinion is irrelevant & of no consequence.
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