Final Batch of 3RSs and Speedsters - Do They Have the PF?
Discussion
I'll still admit to being very surprised it's actually happening, and I've love to know whether a GPF filter will be fitted or not. However, the silence on the details is deafening. Very odd.
The way Porsche are with NA cars at the moment (GT4, Speedster and GT3RS) I don't think anything is an absolute given!
The way Porsche are with NA cars at the moment (GT4, Speedster and GT3RS) I don't think anything is an absolute given!
Taffy66 said:
Its currently the most divisive thread on P'heads.This 2nd batch of RSs is creating all kinds of petty squabbling.
To get things back on track my OPC informed me this morning that they have been given three allocations and official build dates this week commencing from July onwards till late Autumn..The DP has yet to decide who gets one but i'm still hopeful it'll include me.
Fingers crossed for your allocation. Three is a number that’s been mentioned elsewhere so it seems we have a good idea how many cars are coming to the UK.To get things back on track my OPC informed me this morning that they have been given three allocations and official build dates this week commencing from July onwards till late Autumn..The DP has yet to decide who gets one but i'm still hopeful it'll include me.
I think the thing that we all need to remember is none of us have perfect information. Each dealer group has different allocation procedures and probably OPC’s within each dealer group differ. And then the information anyone can get will be skewed as to whether you’re getting a car or being “gently let down”.
I honestly can’t be bothered to even contemplate trying to get a future GT car allocation.
Saying that OP doesn't have an order for the car unless 100% sure that is the case is simply nasty and trolling IMO. Funny how everyone on these various forums seems to judge a poster by their own debt fuelled existences (generally speaking not specific to anyone on here). There's always a bigger fish in the sea.
IMI A said:
Saying that OP doesn't have an order for the car unless 100% sure that is the case is simply nasty and trolling IMO. Funny how everyone on these various forums seems to judge a poster by their own debt fuelled existences (generally speaking not specific to anyone on here). There's always a bigger fish in the sea.
I agree, maybe not everybody tells the complete truth, but if you can only post information/questions if you prove everything, then the forum will become a very quiet place. Seems to be a Pistonheads issue though, I occasionally read Ferrarichat and people there seem to be less inclined to do so[quote=BrntRubber]Hi Guys,
I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE,AS YOUVE SAID YOU BUY A FULL SYSTEM AND BIN OR BOX THE REST!!!
Thank you
FFS Who really believes this?
The above (Speedster coming in August) is like me telling you I’m going to see a premier of the new Bond film in August staring Ali G and Madonna,I’m the only person in the World that’s been invited and the film critics know nothing about it,hush hush
What dealer does anyone know who is allocating every GT car to one customer,I know some BIG HITTERS,Taffy excluded and they are NOT getting allocated every GT car by a long way.
My dealer also says nothing decided on who will or won’t be lucky!
I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE,AS YOUVE SAID YOU BUY A FULL SYSTEM AND BIN OR BOX THE REST!!!
Thank you
FFS Who really believes this?
The above (Speedster coming in August) is like me telling you I’m going to see a premier of the new Bond film in August staring Ali G and Madonna,I’m the only person in the World that’s been invited and the film critics know nothing about it,hush hush
What dealer does anyone know who is allocating every GT car to one customer,I know some BIG HITTERS,Taffy excluded and they are NOT getting allocated every GT car by a long way.
My dealer also says nothing decided on who will or won’t be lucky!
Brnt said Juno
You are a pathetic, pathetic man.
I never said the Speedster was financially out of reach, the same was a 2RS wasn’t.
Juno said
I maybe PATHETIC BrntRubber but you seem to appear to be suffering from memory loss!
Remind Brnt what he said:
The CGT is still my unicorn. I will take a look at the Stuttgart car but the indicative price I have been given no the Speedster is eye watering to say the least (double the touring optioned), making it out of reach for the time being.
Juno said
So please make your Fecking mind up
Anyway it’s time to tell us,Who are you?
https://youtu.be/HZPTZuwwHng
You are a pathetic, pathetic man.
I never said the Speedster was financially out of reach, the same was a 2RS wasn’t.
Juno said
I maybe PATHETIC BrntRubber but you seem to appear to be suffering from memory loss!
Remind Brnt what he said:
The CGT is still my unicorn. I will take a look at the Stuttgart car but the indicative price I have been given no the Speedster is eye watering to say the least (double the touring optioned), making it out of reach for the time being.
Juno said
So please make your Fecking mind up
Anyway it’s time to tell us,Who are you?
https://youtu.be/HZPTZuwwHng
Edited by Juno on Tuesday 9th April 15:37
To the question of GPF... yes it will have one.
All cars have to reduce particulate levels so low I don't see how it's physically possible without a GPF. DFI is the reason. This is why people believe GPFs are regulatory, but technically GPF's are not mandated only suggested. Regulators leave the door open that if a manufacturer isn't using DFI, then there is absolutely no need for a GPF.... so yes they will have a GPF, yes it will be easy to remove, yes it will require ECU work, yes it will make the car illegal on the road in EU.
http://ec.europa.eu/growth/content/commission-welc...
IMO - Porsche take their marketing to an obsessive level and is why they will re-enter production of GT cars to replace cars lost on shipping container accident or in this case, release the GT3 RS to what I suspect will have nigh identical performance to the old car. In short, the marketing plan must be executed whatever happens.
SO... it is entirely plausible that some "retail side" are happy to make "commitments" even on the speedster.
Finally, it seems out of character for many people on here to be acting all 'Mean Girls' (said in jest), even if you don't like what the OP is saying. Just saying... could we find a more articulate way to disagree.
All cars have to reduce particulate levels so low I don't see how it's physically possible without a GPF. DFI is the reason. This is why people believe GPFs are regulatory, but technically GPF's are not mandated only suggested. Regulators leave the door open that if a manufacturer isn't using DFI, then there is absolutely no need for a GPF.... so yes they will have a GPF, yes it will be easy to remove, yes it will require ECU work, yes it will make the car illegal on the road in EU.
http://ec.europa.eu/growth/content/commission-welc...
IMO - Porsche take their marketing to an obsessive level and is why they will re-enter production of GT cars to replace cars lost on shipping container accident or in this case, release the GT3 RS to what I suspect will have nigh identical performance to the old car. In short, the marketing plan must be executed whatever happens.
SO... it is entirely plausible that some "retail side" are happy to make "commitments" even on the speedster.
Finally, it seems out of character for many people on here to be acting all 'Mean Girls' (said in jest), even if you don't like what the OP is saying. Just saying... could we find a more articulate way to disagree.
APOLO1 said:
The bit that makes me smile is that on my reading not so long ago, it was taken as a given on here that the 2nd run was not going to happen, based on how long it had been since the first run. Now the 2nd run is clearly out, the very same reasoning is being applied to the Filter, etc......Lol.
30kg in weight, the size of a grain silo and sounds like an oven fan. Best we all pull out now D Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 9th April 14:00
Robbo66 said:
30kg in weight, the size of a grain silo and sounds like an oven fan. Best we all pull out now D
It was very straightforward to fit GPFs on the 992s..All they did was incorporate it into the existing 3 way Cat and site it right next to the Turbos.The scorching heat from the Turbos constantly burn off(clean) the soot particulates caught in the filter even in stop/start everyday driving.They tried to incorporate the GPF in the RS's Cat but for whatever reason it didn't work so they had to go back to the drawing board to come up with another solution.The problem with the highly tuned NA RS engine is if a GPF is fitted it affects the outtake breathing which reduces power..This can easily be overcome in a Turbo.
This is primarily the reason that the second batch RS has been kicked down the road for nine months now and counting..It'll be fascinating to see what solution Porsche's undoubted talented engineers come up with, but they sure are having their work cut out over the GPF.
IMV there will need to be some compromise either in power delivery,noise or both.No doubt the Marketing dept will come up with some bu
it to disguise this..
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