Final Batch of 3RSs and Speedsters - Do They Have the PF?
Discussion
Crikey Cheib, whatever your current line of work is, you need to jack it in and start a detective agency..
From reading this article it seems the second batch RS has a substantially reworked engine..So different in fact they even refer it internally as the Gen 3 engine..It seems more likely that it has the same changes as the Speedster's engine possibly with the ITBs included.
This would explain the 12 month delay in the second batch as a fully re-engineered engine would have undertaken lengthy testing and development time.
This has whetted my appetite even more in waiting for mine to arrive..I've even read some rumours that the RS engine was re-bored to a 4.2L but i can't see that happening myself.
From reading this article it seems the second batch RS has a substantially reworked engine..So different in fact they even refer it internally as the Gen 3 engine..It seems more likely that it has the same changes as the Speedster's engine possibly with the ITBs included.
This would explain the 12 month delay in the second batch as a fully re-engineered engine would have undertaken lengthy testing and development time.
This has whetted my appetite even more in waiting for mine to arrive..I've even read some rumours that the RS engine was re-bored to a 4.2L but i can't see that happening myself.
Taffy66 said:
hunter 66 said:
Great weather for a drive out with some mates , Midhurst area ....... lot of fun , sadly my RS is now nearly at 5k miles not good for re-sale . Rev limiter does have hard cut .
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 21st April 17:07
..Perish the thought.
Lol...
Surely they must be referring to the 6 x ITB as in the Speedster announced last week? In the NY presentation (on youtube) they talk to the engine and say its the configuration that will appear in future GT cars. The new exhaust architecture removes some weight by eliminating the side boxes. Jury is still out on how it sounds but frankly if it has the 6 throttle bodies and makes the same output then any small reduction in exhaust note will be complimented by better intake noise and Id say anyone awaiting an allocation of a car in this configuration should be well chuffed...
Macca993 said:
Surely they must be referring to the 6 x ITB as in the Speedster announced last week? In the NY presentation (on youtube) they talk to the engine and say its the configuration that will appear in future GT cars. The new exhaust architecture removes some weight by eliminating the side boxes. Jury is still out on how it sounds but frankly if it has the 6 throttle bodies and makes the same output then any small reduction in exhaust note will be complimented by better intake noise and Id say anyone awaiting an allocation of a car in this configuration should be well chuffed...
It has to be the ITBs the Porsche insider is referring to as a substantially reworked engine. Porsche would only have developed one type of GT engine for the Speedster and RS..Include the fact that ITBs reduce emissions when the engine is cold when the GPF is ineffective then it seems even more likely..Eradicating the two side mufflers will save at least as much weight as the GPFs add and seemed such an obvious solution i'm surprised none of us thought about it.
IF the second batch has these ITBs fitted coupled with the highly desirable WP, then anyone who's had an allocation will be very chuffed indeed.
Taffy66 said:
It has to be the ITBs the Porsche insider is referring to as a substantially reworked engine. Porsche would only have developed one type of GT engine for the Speedster and RS..Include the fact that ITBs reduce emissions when the engine is cold when the GPF is ineffective then it seems even more likely..
Eradicating the two side mufflers will save at least as much weight as the GPFs add and seemed such an obvious solution i'm surprised none of us thought about it.
IF the second batch has these ITBs fitted coupled with the highly desirable WP, then anyone who's had an allocation will be very chuffed indeed.
This would be amazing. We will soon know. My build is July. Are there earlier ones?Eradicating the two side mufflers will save at least as much weight as the GPFs add and seemed such an obvious solution i'm surprised none of us thought about it.
IF the second batch has these ITBs fitted coupled with the highly desirable WP, then anyone who's had an allocation will be very chuffed indeed.
Gitana991 said:
Taffy66 said:
It has to be the ITBs the Porsche insider is referring to as a substantially reworked engine. Porsche would only have developed one type of GT engine for the Speedster and RS..Include the fact that ITBs reduce emissions when the engine is cold when the GPF is ineffective then it seems even more likely..
Eradicating the two side mufflers will save at least as much weight as the GPFs add and seemed such an obvious solution i'm surprised none of us thought about it.
IF the second batch has these ITBs fitted coupled with the highly desirable WP, then anyone who's had an allocation will be very chuffed indeed.
This would be amazing. We will soon know. My build is July. Are there earlier ones?Eradicating the two side mufflers will save at least as much weight as the GPFs add and seemed such an obvious solution i'm surprised none of us thought about it.
IF the second batch has these ITBs fitted coupled with the highly desirable WP, then anyone who's had an allocation will be very chuffed indeed.
BrntRubber said:
I’m July as well, I think those are the earliest. Speedsters starts t the same time I believe
Ahhhh the Speedster... Just to confirm, have you been able to spec it with your dealer or is the configurator still to go live even with them? I remember for the 2RS I knew I had an allocation but waited a few weeks post announcement. Back to Speedster: Manual, open top, 9K. Can just picture the drive on a countryside B road... you must be so excited! Each GT i was lucky to have an allocation for was such an unbelievable joy - incl the 3RS WP!. Speedster is right up there! Tbh, and although not comparable cars and, as you now know, a dream of mine too. I think a Speedster + GT2 RS would fulfil me more than a Carrera GT. And as I write... it’s V10 sounds comes to my mind and ears!Gitana991 said:
BrntRubber said:
I’m July as well, I think those are the earliest. Speedsters starts t the same time I believe
Ahhhh the Speedster... Just to confirm, have you been able to spec it with your dealer or is the configurator still to go live even with them? I remember for the 2RS I knew I had an allocation but waited a few weeks post announcement. Back to Speedster: Manual, open top, 9K. Can just picture the drive on a countryside B road... you must be so excited! Each GT i was lucky to have an allocation for was such an unbelievable joy - incl the 3RS WP!. Speedster is right up there! Tbh, and although not comparable cars and, as you now know, a dream of mine too. I think a Speedster + GT2 RS would fulfil me more than a Carrera GT. And as I write... it’s V10 sounds comes to my mind and ears!Interesting you would choose the 2RS and Speedster.
Hope your loving the 3RS
BrntRubber said:
No I haven’t been able to configure the Speedster, May 7 is the first day.
Interesting you would choose the 2RS and Speedster.
Hope your loving the 3RS
I am loving the GT3 RS. Really. And I don’t know which one would suit me better between 3RS and Speedster. But if I had the option and had to keep two cars, then I would have to keep the GT2 RS for its power/ feeling so special/ the loud exhaust and turbo torque and then choose with 9K N.A. car to keep. This would be a cool Pb!Interesting you would choose the 2RS and Speedster.
Hope your loving the 3RS
Heritage spec Speedster snapped at the factory., like it without the roundels.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwqpf9-JZR6/?utm_sourc...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwqpf9-JZR6/?utm_sourc...
Cheib said:
Heritage spec Speedster snapped at the factory., like it without the roundels.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwqpf9-JZR6/?utm_sourc...
I know no one in the real world is really going to drive these but imagine trying to get a front quarter guard repainted with that white/silver cross over line!https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwqpf9-JZR6/?utm_sourc...
BrntRubber said:
Hi Guys,
I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF.
Thank you
Here are some renders of my incoming 3RS
That's beautiful! I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF.
Thank you
Here are some renders of my incoming 3RS
JB991.2GTS said:
BrntRubber said:
Hi Guys,
I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF.
Thank you
Here are some renders of my incoming 3RS
That's beautiful! I have a Speedster coming around August and a 3RS WP coming in July. I wanted to ask if any of you know if the incoming 991 UK cars have the Particle Filter or of that is just the 992s?
I really appreciate the help as I want to buy a full exhaust system but it likely won’t be compatible on cars with the PF.
Thank you
Here are some renders of my incoming 3RS
FWIW - I have a 3RS confirmed for mid-July (in Switzerland).
Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
mep59 said:
FWIW - I have a 3RS confirmed for mid-July (in Switzerland).
Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
More info again which is great..Bit miffed that the RS is not getting the ITBs from the Speedster..However from a purely marketing OPV the Speedster needed some form of USP to justify its high price.Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
The 15% reduction in noise is more of a worry as a muffled RS doesn't sound right to me..I'll give JCR a phone to see if they have something in development.
Went out for a bit of a play the other day, I drove Molly's GTI she drove our GT3RS. The idea being that she would overtake me at various speeds including hard acceleration. I have to admit the sound of it going by whilst changing gear is really something, I remember thinking that it was not possibly legal. Without doubt the standard exhaust is more than enough for me. ( I did have a Sharkwerks bypass on our GT3.) Porsche will always move forward with new models and appreciate that they are obliged to fit a PPF to this new car though losing 10 to 15% of that glorious sound will be a great loss.
Taffy66 said:
mep59 said:
FWIW - I have a 3RS confirmed for mid-July (in Switzerland).
Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
More info again which is great..Bit miffed that the RS is not getting the ITBs from the Speedster..However from a purely marketing OPV the Speedster needed some form of USP to justify its high price.Just spoke with my local OPC contact, and asked about the engine. He was very specific that this is NOT the Speedster engine - it is the "normal" RS engine with a PF and a remap. The PF apparently costs around 7PS, and the remap brings it back to 130PS/liter.
The PF brings a reduction of noise of about 15%, which personally I find to be a good thing - there are a lot of tracks that get quite tricky to get on these days...
Michael.
The 15% reduction in noise is more of a worry as a muffled RS doesn't sound right to me..I'll give JCR a phone to see if they have something in development.
As above, nobody knows yet but if you had to put a tenner on one of the following for an exisitng model of car, many of which are already in use and on the market, would you got for:
1. Same engine with a filter and a remap to maintain the power with a slightly quieter exhaust in order to meet the regs.
or
2. Massively re-worked engine with ITBs that's so awesome Porsche is calling the Gen3 engine and has spent a tonne of money on in order to satisfy a few petrol heads on the internet and meet the regs.
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