The GTS avoidance thread!

The GTS avoidance thread!

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mierzwin

Original Poster:

79 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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There was a similar thread for GT3 and RS. Let's have one for GTS.

It is a private sale on Autotrader so hopefully, no dealer will complain and it doesn't get removed.

Bargain at 93k: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Is anyone able to shed some light why is it HPI clear but not vcheck clear? smile










GT4P

5,204 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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One careful owner?

Superleg48

1,524 posts

133 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I have packed my bargepole away, as I have no need to use it.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Like the GT3 Phil Raby had for sale recently.

Hpi clear but an insurance write off.

mierzwin

Original Poster:

79 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Budflicker said:
Like the GT3 Phil Raby had for sale recently.

Hpi clear but an insurance write off.
As per Autoexpress article, only 80k cars a year missing from HPI which were written off each year...

MrC986

3,493 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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That’s more than a light scuff that’s happened there. If it’s been repaired properly, that wouldn’t have been cheap.

LAM80W

812 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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mierzwin said:
There was a similar thread for GT3 and RS. Let's have one for GTS.

It is a private sale on Autotrader so hopefully, no dealer will complain and it doesn't get removed.

Bargain at 93k: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Is anyone able to shed some light why is it HPI clear but not vcheck clear? smile









Nice work, that’s absolutely shocking, it’s a real shame some poor soul will buy that thinking they are getting a great deal without seeing what you have just posted.

6appeal

59 posts

95 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Blooming eck!!!

6appeal

59 posts

95 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Would warranty still be live on this?

mierzwin

Original Poster:

79 posts

165 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Technically on HPI, it is clear and most warranty T&Cs say once the car is written-off it voids it.
So I would be inclined to say, it is still valid.

MadMark911

1,754 posts

149 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Sugar. I assume that will get an "insurance category" assigned to it though? That is a trap waiting for some unsuspecting buyer to drop into .....

Cat C?

Category A:
Scrap only. For cars so badly damaged they should be crushed and never re-appear on the road. Even salvageable parts must be destroyed.

Category B:
Body shell should be crushed. Signifies extensive damage, although some parts are salvageable.

Should never re-appear on road, although reclaimed parts can be used in other road-going vehicles.

Category S: (formerly Category C)
The new Category S means the vehicle has suffered structural damage.

This could include a bent or twisted chassis, or a crumple zone that has collapsed in a crash.

Category S damage is more than just cosmetic, therefore, and the vehicle will need to be professionally repaired. Also, it won’t be safe to drive until then.

mierzwin

Original Poster:

79 posts

165 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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It was auctioned Feb 2018 so must have been involved in a crash before this. I think if something is not updated within 12 months usually will not get updated at all so most likely it will stay HPI Clear.

Edited by mierzwin on Friday 19th April 20:10

mikeh501

718 posts

181 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Guy can’t spell either! I’d avoid solely on that basis lol

AndrewO

652 posts

183 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Went to see this yesterday....lovely car...hpi check is clear....warranty extension to end of June by Porsche because of Virus....but there were some minor alarm bells.

Owner said no accidents or repairs !

Interestingly its the same pictures in the April'19 advert....change of owner Oct'19 to current (2previous)

Edited by AndrewO on Tuesday 2nd June 10:59

Maph7

38 posts

103 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Has 'sold' twice now on ebay for £65.5K in April and £65K a couple of days ago. No mention of any previous damage in the ad and being HPI clear hope no one buys RV17 NMZ if unaware of it's history.

Assuming it has been repaired properly, being HPI clear and with Porsche warranty, I am sure someone will be happy to take a punt on it if it is cheaper than a straight one.

Rchamps

55 posts

98 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Was looking at this the other day. Owner was adamant it hadn't been in an accident, before I sent him those same pictures... He hasn't responded to any messages since those pics.

Best avoided!!!

PSB1

3,685 posts

104 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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AndrewO said:
Went to see this yesterday....lovely car...hpi check is clear....warranty extension to end of June by Porsche because of Virus....but there were some minor alarm bells.

Owner said no accidents or repairs !

Interestingly its the same pictures in the April'19 advert....change of owner Oct'19 to current (2previous)

Edited by AndrewO on Tuesday 2nd June 10:59
Interesting - I think I may have seen this in the Reading area. Similar part of the world? I chatted to a Gen II Carmine GTS owner at the weekend. Didn't read the plate in detail, but may have been this car.

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Maph7 said:
Has 'sold' twice now on ebay for £65.5K in April and £65K a couple of days ago. No mention of any previous damage in the ad and being HPI clear hope no one buys RV17 NMZ if unaware of it's history.
Someone's been taking a hit on the advertised price


PurpleFox

427 posts

85 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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I went to see it last week, nice car but there were alarm bells ringing from the start.

It 'sold' a few months back on ebay for £65500, bargain so why was it back up again. Seller said the high bidder had been furloughed.

Seller had various other items for sale that indicated he could be in the trade....a bonnet or a door I think for a merc and some private reg plates.

Previous completed listings also showed a 991.2 led headlight. Apparently replaced due to a scratch.

It was hard to pair the above items and the surroundings in which they had been photographed with a car of that value.

Another alarm bell.....all the docs, manuals, spare key and trackers were stuffed in the glove box in a carrier bag.

Another alarm bell....the car wasn't at his house, he had to go get it which was no problem, he was very nice and obliging. It was registered to the address where we met and he showed me ID.

Letter from Porsche was there extending the warranty due to covid. Expires this month sometime. It had also recently had front shocks replaced under warranty.

Clearly the photos of the car were not recent.

I did a HPI check and all clear. The guide was £60 to £65 trade in and same for private sale so although I thought it was cheap at £65, it was inline with the guides on HPI.

The auction ended and the high bidder didn't get in touch. I could have had it for £65k so I put the reg into google and found the same photos as posted above on a Renault forum.

The car looked great, seller was a decent guy, owned since October so he could have bought it and not known its history which would have been unfortunate. Or there could have been more to it.....not sure.

It's such a small world, and there are so few cars like that it cannot be confused with another one, whoever buys it will eventually find out or will bump into someone who knows about it. The current owner would be better to advertise it as repaired to a high standard using genuine parts etc rather than hide the truth. I would be interested at the right price.

Interesting that the first owner was 'Aston Martin Lagonda' would love to know what they were doing with it and if they smashed it up. I think it had 1700 miles on the clock when it was at the salvage auction.

Maph7

38 posts

103 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Prob part of the bench marking when developing the manual Vantage. Could be one of their test pilots overcooked it.

Edited by Maph7 on Tuesday 2nd June 19:17