What’s the right price for a 991.2 GT3 ?
Discussion
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Just to pick up on the comment earlier, does this not make the 991.1 GT3 a bit of a bargain by comparison? They’re c.£105k now at OPCs.
I’ll be in the market at that price in maybe 6 months, is the .2 really worth the extra?
This was the very conversation we had amongst several owners yesterday .1 or .2 GT3 most having the .2 commenting on the engine difference and being worth the extra. I guess you wouldn’t expect a .2 owner to say otherwise! having had both I can say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the .1 but I do prefer the .2 and personally feel it was worth the change.I’ll be in the market at that price in maybe 6 months, is the .2 really worth the extra?
The engine does feel crisper and a bit more breathy and free willing, defo notice the torque from lower speeds in gear and overall it feels more compliant on the road,I like the steering wheel as well.
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 06:38
Juno said:
This was the very conversation we had amongst several owners yesterday .1 or .2 GT3 most having the .2 commenting on the engine difference and being worth the extra. I guess you wouldn’t expect a .2 owner to say otherwise! having had both I can say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the .1 but I do prefer the .2 and personally feel it was worth the change.
The engine does feel crisper and a bit more breathy and free willing, defo notice the torque from lower speeds in gear and overall it feels more compliant on the road,I like the steering wheel as well.
The YouTube reviews from Harris, Meaden and Jethro back this up too. Bovingtons comment was “if you paid 500k for a 911R (2nd owner) then your a f’kin idiot”. The engine does feel crisper and a bit more breathy and free willing, defo notice the torque from lower speeds in gear and overall it feels more compliant on the road,I like the steering wheel as well.
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 06:38
Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
Cheib said:
I suppose if you look at 997.1 and 997.2 GT3 there’s what a £15k to £20k price difference so you could resonably expect that as a price difference in the future? Big issue is engine once that 10yr warranty runs out.
I’ve noticed there seems far more 997.1’s for sale than 997.2’s . The 2 seems to sell faster. I’ve had 2 997.1’s but now I’d go the extra and have the .2
At the age these are getting to now I’d probably only be comfortable buying from JZM who I know go rigourously through ever car they take in.
As for the 991 I think they are more mullet proof than people give them Credit for.
Cheib said:
I suppose if you look at 997.1 and 997.2 GT3 there’s what a £15k to £20k price difference so you could resonably expect that as a price difference in the future? Big issue is engine once that 10yr warranty runs out.
I’ve noticed there seems far more 997.1’s for sale than 997.2’s . The 2 seems to sell faster. I’ve had 2 997.1’s but now I’d go the extra and have the .2
At the age these are getting to now I’d probably only be comfortable buying from JZM who I know go rigourously through ever car they take in.
As for the 991 I think they are more mullet proof than people give them Credit for.
FocusRS3 said:
Cheib said:
I suppose if you look at 997.1 and 997.2 GT3 there’s what a £15k to £20k price difference so you could resonably expect that as a price difference in the future? Big issue is engine once that 10yr warranty runs out.
I’ve noticed there seems far more 997.1’s for sale than 997.2’s . The 2 seems to sell faster. I’ve had 2 997.1’s but now I’d go the extra and have the .2
At the age these are getting to now I’d probably only be comfortable buying from JZM who I know go rigourously through ever car they take in.
As for the 991 I think they are more mullet proof than people give them Credit for.
Perception will become reality (in terms of prices) I think for the 991.1....it’s tainted I think and obviously these things become exaggerated but you do read of people with multiple engine failures....which seem to be associated with track use from what I have read a few times? I think the older these cars get the more the owners are people that want to drive track them so I do think it’s an issue long term fo the cars in terms of price differential on that basis.
FocusRS3 said:
Juno said:
This was the very conversation we had amongst several owners yesterday .1 or .2 GT3 most having the .2 commenting on the engine difference and being worth the extra. I guess you wouldn’t expect a .2 owner to say otherwise! having had both I can say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the .1 but I do prefer the .2 and personally feel it was worth the change.
The engine does feel crisper and a bit more breathy and free willing, defo notice the torque from lower speeds in gear and overall it feels more compliant on the road,I like the steering wheel as well.
The YouTube reviews from Harris, Meaden and Jethro back this up too. Bovingtons comment was “if you paid 500k for a 911R (2nd owner) then your a f’kin idiot”. The engine does feel crisper and a bit more breathy and free willing, defo notice the torque from lower speeds in gear and overall it feels more compliant on the road,I like the steering wheel as well.
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 06:38
Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 10:10
FocusRS3 said:
The YouTube reviews from Harris, Meaden and Jethro back this up too. Bovingtons comment was “if you paid 500k for a 911R (2nd owner) then your a f’kin idiot”.
Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
You actually take reviews that seriously where every journalist typically falls over themselves in praising the new shiny thing....?Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
isaldiri said:
FocusRS3 said:
The YouTube reviews from Harris, Meaden and Jethro back this up too. Bovingtons comment was “if you paid 500k for a 911R (2nd owner) then your a f’kin idiot”.
Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
You actually take reviews that seriously where every journalist typically falls over themselves in praising the new shiny thing....?Question is Manuel or PDK I guess...
And my .1 did smoke it’s pants off from time to time which can’t be right!!!
Also to mention when you look at the cost difference don’t overlook the fact you are also getting a car 3 to 4 years newer probably with low miles as well so there’s more benefits to be had in changing than just the upgrades. I went 13 year to 17 year and 10k miles to 1700 miles to be factored in,same benefit even if you are a first time buyer.
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 10:23
Juno said:
I get your point about journalists but having been with many .1 .2 owners yesterday it is a view that they all share, .2 is a worthwhile jump.
I'm sure it is a worthwhile jump but equally, that's a rather self selecting group to ask if the .2 is worth the extra don't you think? It's a rather rare owner of a car that will not in some way (even unintentionally) self justify his choice of car especially over one where a fair few might well have traded up from.isaldiri said:
I'm sure it is a worthwhile jump but equally, that's a rather self selecting group to ask if the .2 is worth the extra don't you think? It's a rather rare owner of a car that will not in some way (even unintentionally) self justify his choice of car especially over one where a fair few might well have traded up from.
Think we all have a different prospective about " if "the price over the 991.1 to the .2 is worth the jump. Bit like the R and the GT3Touring on paper they look very close, and yet when driven back to back they are completely different cars.If i was in the Market for a 991.1GT3 i would have one in a "blink" and not look back.....
isaldiri said:
I'm sure it is a worthwhile jump but equally, that's a rather self selecting group to ask if the .2 is worth the extra don't you think? It's a rather rare owner of a car that will not in some way (even unintentionally) self justify his choice of car especially over one where a fair few might well have traded up from.
I actually said that in my earlier post ( I guess you wouldn’t expect a .2 owner to say otherwise!) but you've got to ask someone to be able to answer the question!If not current owners who have owned both and or journalists then who do you suggest to get an opinion?
Edited by Juno on Monday 22 April 10:56
Juno said:
If not current owners who have owned both and or journalists then who do you suggest to get an opinion?
That's a fair question, the short answer is - I don't know! ideally someone without a vested interest in either but with enough experience of the cars concerned but that's a rather difficult combination I grant you.isaldiri said:
Juno said:
If not current owners who have owned both and or journalists then who do you suggest to get an opinion?
That's a fair question, the short answer is - I don't know! ideally someone without a vested interest in either but with enough experience of the cars concerned but that's a rather difficult combination I grant you.Just a thought.
Juno said:
isaldiri said:
Juno said:
If not current owners who have owned both and or journalists then who do you suggest to get an opinion?
That's a fair question, the short answer is - I don't know! ideally someone without a vested interest in either but with enough experience of the cars concerned but that's a rather difficult combination I grant you.Just a thought.
isaldiri said:
You actually take reviews that seriously where every journalist typically falls over themselves in praising the new shiny thing....?
Decent enough owners review https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DGT9_DzQW88#fauxfull...
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