What’s the right price for a 991.2 GT3 ?
Discussion
Cheib said:
detee said:
I have been thinking about one for a while, is it now time to be brave, or wait until winter...
As has been said many, many times on this forum...they’re very spec sensitive so if there’s a car you want I would show a low but realistic bid now and see what they say. In terms of timing end of Sep is quarter end so OPC’s will be desperate to get deals done then so that that will be a better time IMHO. Having regard to the probable relative 'lukewarm' reception to the 992, for various reasons, and possible 10 % Brexit surcharge resulting in the 992 likely coming in at early £160ks with a fair spec this COULD result in firming up of prices of the 991.2 into next Spring and peak buying season.
Happened with the 991.1 GT3 and prices rose again, but for different reasons.
Happened with the 991.1 GT3 and prices rose again, but for different reasons.
Just seen this thread on PH about the MB GT3 at Redline. I’ve put a deposit on that car, and though unseen, hope it’s a good one. I was quite concerned about the numbers of owners but it’s a great spec with full PPF. I’m planning on enjoying that car for many years so I guess it’s not that important. Hopefully picking her up on Tuesday. Can’t wait!!
SAG6Y said:
Just seen this thread on PH about the MB GT3 at Redline. I’ve put a deposit on that car, and though unseen, hope it’s a good one. I was quite concerned about the numbers of owners but it’s a great spec with full PPF. I’m planning on enjoying that car for many years so I guess it’s not that important. Hopefully picking her up on Tuesday. Can’t wait!!
That's one of the nicest spec GT3s i've seen..18/18 plate manual and Redline 's asking price was less than it cost new if you include the PPF and £2k tax..Three owners means nothing on this type of car as the first owner probably flipped it with only a few hundred miles on it..I've seen plenty of them at my OPC..Just goes to show that the Porsche GT allocations are still not going to the right people who want the car for driving not flipping.I bought my Ferrari from them last Dec and found them a very genuine outfit to deal with..All the best.
Digga said:
Cheib said:
detee said:
I have been thinking about one for a while, is it now time to be brave, or wait until winter...
As has been said many, many times on this forum...they’re very spec sensitive so if there’s a car you want I would show a low but realistic bid now and see what they say. In terms of timing end of Sep is quarter end so OPC’s will be desperate to get deals done then so that that will be a better time IMHO. Taffy66 said:
SAG6Y said:
Just seen this thread on PH about the MB GT3 at Redline. I’ve put a deposit on that car, and though unseen, hope it’s a good one. I was quite concerned about the numbers of owners but it’s a great spec with full PPF. I’m planning on enjoying that car for many years so I guess it’s not that important. Hopefully picking her up on Tuesday. Can’t wait!!
That's one of the nicest spec GT3s i've seen..18/18 plate manual and Redline 's asking price was less than it cost new if you include the PPF and £2k tax..Three owners means nothing on this type of car as the first owner probably flipped it with only a few hundred miles on it..I've seen plenty of them at my OPC..Just goes to show that the Porsche GT allocations are still not going to the right people who want the car for driving not flipping.I bought my Ferrari from them last Dec and found them a very genuine outfit to deal with..All the best.
Anyone into serious cars and in the Knaresborough area with an hour to kill it's definitely worth calling in for a look if only for interest.
SAG6Y said:
Just seen this thread on PH about the MB GT3 at Redline. I’ve put a deposit on that car, and though unseen, hope it’s a good one. I was quite concerned about the numbers of owners but it’s a great spec with full PPF. I’m planning on enjoying that car for many years so I guess it’s not that important. Hopefully picking her up on Tuesday. Can’t wait!!
Congratulations it looked a beautiful spec and the cage being painted really sets it off. It seems you have bagged one of the first high spec independently advertised 991.2 gt3 cars for sale at under list.
GT4RS said:
av185 said:
detee said:
It was a great car, and as people have said a good buy for someone. It has had three previous owners.
Blimey.First one bought it to flip properly never used it.
Second one bought it thinking he would also make money, which he didn’t so panic sold after paying overs.
Third person bought it and used it then sold it on after putting a big fat smile on his face!
First owner specced the car with virtually every extra including full PPF. Guessing it was c £140k
Second owner bought it for £180k and did less than 800 miles.
Third owner (me) paid £145k from Porsche Exeter and intend to carry on thrashing the absolute arse out of it at every opportunity I get.
The fact the first two owners did less than 2500 miles between them in their ownership makes zero difference to what is a totally stunning machine.
Taffy66 said:
SAG6Y said:
Just seen this thread on PH about the MB GT3 at Redline. I’ve put a deposit on that car, and though unseen, hope it’s a good one. I was quite concerned about the numbers of owners but it’s a great spec with full PPF. I’m planning on enjoying that car for many years so I guess it’s not that important. Hopefully picking her up on Tuesday. Can’t wait!!
That's one of the nicest spec GT3s i've seen..18/18 plate manual and Redline 's asking price was less than it cost new if you include the PPF and £2k tax..Three owners means nothing on this type of car as the first owner probably flipped it with only a few hundred miles on it..I've seen plenty of them at my OPC..Just goes to show that the Porsche GT allocations are still not going to the right people who want the car for driving not flipping.I bought my Ferrari from them last Dec and found them a very genuine outfit to deal with..All the best.
Boyd Rees said:
GT4RS said:
av185 said:
detee said:
It was a great car, and as people have said a good buy for someone. It has had three previous owners.
Blimey.First one bought it to flip properly never used it.
Second one bought it thinking he would also make money, which he didn’t so panic sold after paying overs.
Third person bought it and used it then sold it on after putting a big fat smile on his face!
First owner specced the car with virtually every extra including full PPF. Guessing it was c £140k
Second owner bought it for £180k and did less than 800 miles.
Third owner (me) paid £145k from Porsche Exeter and intend to carry on thrashing the absolute arse out of it at every opportunity I get.
The fact the first two owners did less than 2500 miles between them in their ownership makes zero difference to what is a totally stunning machine.
Clearly they had it for a short time and did very little pleasurable driving miles....
It is no wonder the independents are doing so well, they are pricing competitively and being fair with part exchanges.
I have spoke to three OPC’s about a GT3 in their stock and they would not shift on price, and made derisory bids on my T.
To be fair to Redline their part ex was there or there about and the MB car was priced keenly. It is a fabulous car.
There also seems to be a lot of “selling on behalf of a customer”
I have certainly decided that it is probably cheaper to buy at overs, than keep buying cars from an OPC in the hope of an allocation.
An odd market it seems!
I have spoke to three OPC’s about a GT3 in their stock and they would not shift on price, and made derisory bids on my T.
To be fair to Redline their part ex was there or there about and the MB car was priced keenly. It is a fabulous car.
There also seems to be a lot of “selling on behalf of a customer”
I have certainly decided that it is probably cheaper to buy at overs, than keep buying cars from an OPC in the hope of an allocation.
An odd market it seems!
When I sold my gt3 I tried to trade in back to the dealer. They offered my 10k lower then the trade in bid saying it would put me in good stead to get the next gt3, I actually sold it next day for 15k more then they offered. Now I’m in a position to buy another looks like I’ll only be paying about 10k over list if I buy from a dealer and/or at list if I buy from a specialist so that 15k loss would have been for nothing really. Except I’m buying a nearly new car instead of a new one. Also I didn’t have to buy a 4pot cayster
My last gt3 when I bought it was 2 years old and I was the 4th owner. It only had 1100 miles!
The whole thing is stupid!
My last gt3 when I bought it was 2 years old and I was the 4th owner. It only had 1100 miles!
The whole thing is stupid!
detee said:
I have spoke to three OPC’s about a GT3 in their stock and they would not shift on price, and made derisory bids on my T.
Don't accept stupid money for your T they sell very well. Unsurprising considering only 174 UK cars very few of which are the 'correct' lightweight spec.I put mine back into my OPC and it sold SOR within 3 days at just £5k under list £ (18 18 2k miles 'manuel' basic spec comfort seats except T pack lightweight glass pcm etc).
Give it a couple of years and these will be a future classic imo ( similar to the 997 GTS) especially bearing in mind they are the last of the narrow bodied Carreras and are very similar to the 997.1 in many respects including sound. Punters are slowly latching onto this and as a package at the money they are great value.
I suspect OPC’s are loathed to reduce prices at the moment becuase they are either just about breaking even/losing money on cars they have in stock. Rather than looking at an offer on a car as being a reasonable one (in the market context) they just dismiss it because it’s not the number they want based on what it costs them! Then a month later they reduce it....and it’s probably less than they have previously been offered for it.
av185 said:
Don't accept stupid money for your T they sell very well. Unsurprising considering only 174 UK cars very few of which are the 'correct' lightweight spec.
I put mine back into my OPC and it sold SOR within 3 days at just £5k under list £ (18 18 2k miles 'manuel' basic spec comfort seats except T pack lightweight glass pcm etc).
Give it a couple of years and these will be a future classic imo ( similar to the 997 GTS) especially bearing in mind they are the last of the narrow bodied Carreras and are very similar to the 997.1 in many respects including sound. Punters are slowly latching onto this and as a package at the money they are great value.
I loved my Carrera T, and actually preferred it over a 991.2 GTS which I had just before it...I put mine back into my OPC and it sold SOR within 3 days at just £5k under list £ (18 18 2k miles 'manuel' basic spec comfort seats except T pack lightweight glass pcm etc).
Give it a couple of years and these will be a future classic imo ( similar to the 997 GTS) especially bearing in mind they are the last of the narrow bodied Carreras and are very similar to the 997.1 in many respects including sound. Punters are slowly latching onto this and as a package at the money they are great value.
av185 said:
Don't accept stupid money for your T they sell very well. Unsurprising considering only 174 UK cars very few of which are the 'correct' lightweight spec.
The 175 is the Manual T numbers. There are another 100 PKD Ts so 275 in total..Still rare when you compare to the 600+ 991.2GT3 figures.Taffy66 said:
av185 said:
Don't accept stupid money for your T they sell very well. Unsurprising considering only 174 UK cars very few of which are the 'correct' lightweight spec.
The 175 is the Manual T numbers. There are another 100 PKD Ts so 275 in total..Still rare when you compare to the 600+ 991.2GT3 figures.Black 34
Blue 11
Orange 4
Red 22
Silver 43
White 30
Yellow 32
My OPC only got 4 Ts.
They also state 592 981 GT4s and 227 981 Spyders which is correct.
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