991.2 GT3 RS batch '2' GPF?
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pumper1 said:
I have been offered a new GT3.2 RS with W/Pack UK (C16) spec by a private owner,when it arrives in July with only delivery mileage on it. It is to a high spec, so what is it worth ??
Just when i thought that greedy flippers have been blacklisted by Porsche..! I'd offer him list and not a penny more to teach him a lesson..Its a shame this flipping is still happening with the GT3 RS WP as i know what it takes to get one at list in the first place..Taffy66 said:
Just when i thought that greedy flippers have been blacklisted by Porsche..! I'd offer him list and not a penny more to teach him a lesson..Its a shame this flipping is still happening with the GT3 RS WP as i know what it takes to get one at list in the first place..
what Taffy said 
pumper1 said:
I have been offered a new GT3.2 RS with W/Pack UK (C16) spec by a private owner,when it arrives in July with only delivery mileage on it. It is to a high spec, so what is it worth ??
I would be contacting Porsche GB to get their assistance in tracking down how someone like that is managing to get hold of an allocation.R8_BAV said:
pumper1 said:
I have been offered a new GT3.2 RS with W/Pack UK (C16) spec by a private owner,when it arrives in July with only delivery mileage on it. It is to a high spec, so what is it worth ??
I would be contacting Porsche GB to get their assistance in tracking down how someone like that is managing to get hold of an allocation.Saying offer list is pretty daft if you ask me - cutting off your nose to spite your face!
If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
Taffy66 said:
My OPC are too professional to take a deposit on a car unless they could 100% guarantee an allocation..I was only asked to place my RS deposit when i had a confirmed allocation..
Same.Also have you had spam messages asking if you're selling your allocation?
I have, and to anyone else reading, I'm not selling anything. No hard feelings (I'm going soft in my old age)...
blackmamba said:
Saying offer list is pretty daft if you ask me - cutting off your nose to spite your face!
If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
Its quite possible his circumstances have changed...it happens ...In which case he needs to be upfront with his OPC and cancel his delivery and allow them to choose the next in line for his RS..If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
There is no justification whatsoever to go behind his OPC's back who have favoured him by giving him a super rare and very sought after RS WP..Just my opinion.
Geoffrey 321 said:
Been told Porsche do blacklist flippers via the Vin number, however, I think that's a bluff to try and dissuade other owners from doing the same thing because in practice it doesn't seem to happen.
They do blacklist via the VIN in some cases. Pretty much every OPC has done healthy business over the last few years with brokers who export cars to the RHD Asian markets. I was told by my OPC that Porsche sent someone to the showrooms illicitly to the showrooms where all these cars are for sale to photograph all the VIN’s....those cars have been traced back and all the brokers involved have been blacklisted....OPC’s caught selling to them lose their commission. Although in this case it’s probably the Porsche importers in those markets who have complained to Porsche AG who have given Porsche GB a slap.
Much more significant % of OPC’s sales than you would think.
blackmamba said:
Saying offer list is pretty daft if you ask me - cutting off your nose to spite your face!
Exactly. It's just like anything else, offer something that seems sensible really if you're happy with that amount. Probably the GBP equivalent of euro list plus a small premium It would be less than if you had to buy it from an OPC through their own approved flippers and less than churning cars would cost you as well. Nothing to lose doing so anyway so why not give it a shot.What if he had to buy that “favour” and is just looking to recoup his outlay? I doubt the dealer will return that to him (unless he sells via them).
For the OP, I guess it just depends on how much you want the car and what you feel is reasonable given the current market for them. There have been no deliveries of WP cars and so hard to price.
For the OP, I guess it just depends on how much you want the car and what you feel is reasonable given the current market for them. There have been no deliveries of WP cars and so hard to price.
Taffy66 said:
blackmamba said:
Saying offer list is pretty daft if you ask me - cutting off your nose to spite your face!
If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
Its quite possible his circumstances have changed...it happens ...In which case he needs to be upfront with his OPC and cancel his delivery and allow them to choose the next in line for his RS..If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
There is no justification whatsoever to go behind his OPC's back who have favoured him by giving him a super rare and very sought after RS WP..Just my opinion.
pumper1 said:
I have been offered a new GT3.2 RS with W/Pack UK (C16) spec by a private owner,when it arrives in July with only delivery mileage on it. It is to a high spec, so what is it worth ??
UK(C16) - could well be a Euro import UK spec car. July delivery to a UK OPC would be a challenge in my mind.There are 3 listed in the classifieds - 1 of those is LHD. None have the mag wheels or the CF steering wheel.
GT4RS said:
Taffy66 said:
blackmamba said:
Saying offer list is pretty daft if you ask me - cutting off your nose to spite your face!
If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
Its quite possible his circumstances have changed...it happens ...In which case he needs to be upfront with his OPC and cancel his delivery and allow them to choose the next in line for his RS..If the guys says he wants £10k over list, maybe those are his reasonable costs to get the car? His circumstances could have changed meaning he doesn’t want to take delivery. If a used car will cost X and a new one will cost Y (over list), surely it just depends on if that is a reasonable number for you. Probably cheaper than taking a hit on 3 Macans to get an allocation.
There is no justification whatsoever to go behind his OPC's back who have favoured him by giving him a super rare and very sought after RS WP..Just my opinion.
That’s the cynical old b
d in me....Cheib said:
Let’s face it...the chances of his circumstance changing so much in probably about aa month since he got allocation are unlikely. Probably going private to minimise the chances of getting caught. And I doubt the trade are being super punchy with bids....yes the first gen cars don’t have WP but they also don’t have GPF....don’t think it’s entirely obvious which will be the most sort after....the one that sounds better or the one that’s a bit lighter. Given where first gen cars are priced and the list price of a WP I wonder how much premium a trade buyer would pay for a WP car ?
That’s the cynical old bd in me....
Sort of agree but you don’t mean “first gen” obviously as it’s just a second batch of the same gen with some options that are newly available and (probablly) a GPF. WP is a fashion accessory imho but I get why people will spec it, If you really wanted most of the performance benefits of the WP on a first batch car, just get a set of the mag wheels. The rest is bling. That’s the cynical old b
d in me....I would imagine it would be complicated (or maybe practically impossible) to remove the filter, so maybe the gap between first batch cars and WP cars with a filter won’t be as big as might be expected. Probably not the case for the low mileage garage queens and they’ll probably attract a premium but not sure about the difference between two well used cars, one from the first batch and one from the second with WP and filter. Apart from the fact one will be a year newer. All depends on the impact of the filter (if there is one) in terms of noise and weight. All imho, of course.
992 will be here soon of course and is certain to be an improvement.
Taffy66 said:
As much as i'd like the Speedster its realistically more than i can afford..It'll cost as much as my 991.2GT3 and 981 Spyder did put together without ticking a single box..I think Porsche have bumped up the price deliberately to quell flipping..
Porsche could just bump up the production numbers to quell flipping...They are just charging as much as they think they can get away with!
1948 GT3 cabs at £100k premium - a nice c£200m windfall
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