992 GT3RS

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Jim1556

1,771 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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isaldiri said:
How much aero do you think is going to be all that relevant at most 'normal' cornering speeds in context of a 1500kg car?
Normal cornering speeds & lap times are two different things though, surely?

At the Ring, 100-150kg of downforce through Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz, Mutkurve and the lead on to Dottinger Hohe would be substantial I would have thought?

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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i think the 991.2 rs makes 350kg of downforce at 185+mph. wonder how much this will make. what does the 992 gt3 make and at what speed?

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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So is the Launch going to be at GFS, Ie tomorrow?

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Look forward to seeing these bomb it around the ring

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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MeisterH said:
Grow up FFS.

You obviously don't grasp the concept of aero, we should only expect a small uplift of extra BHP and if what I'm hearing is correct, a Ridiculous fast lap time so all the 'Max power' aero you talk of, well don't worry yourself too much.

I was into Max power back in the day, collected all the magazines and i had awesome teenage years going to cruises and showing my cars on max power stands!


Edited by MeisterH on Wednesday 22 June 07:48
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isaldiri

18,606 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Jim1556 said:
Normal cornering speeds & lap times are two different things though, surely?

At the Ring, 100-150kg of downforce through Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz, Mutkurve and the lead on to Dottinger Hohe would be substantial I would have thought?
I meant 'normal cornering speeds' in the context of even what would be 'fast' track corner (say around 90-100mph minimum apex speed).

it depends what you define as 'substantial' as well I guess. 100-150kg of downforce would probably mean a slight (maybe 5%?) increase in cornering speeds but 'a huge amount of aero' on a road car, and a heavy road car to boot isn't going to make anything like quite as much difference as er.. say simply an even stickier tyre in terms of improving lap times....

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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isaldiri said:
Jim1556 said:
Normal cornering speeds & lap times are two different things though, surely?

At the Ring, 100-150kg of downforce through Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz, Mutkurve and the lead on to Dottinger Hohe would be substantial I would have thought?
I meant 'normal cornering speeds' in the context of even what would be 'fast' track corner (say around 90-100mph minimum apex speed).

it depends what you define as 'substantial' as well I guess. 100-150kg of downforce would probably mean a slight (maybe 5%?) increase in cornering speeds but 'a huge amount of aero' on a road car, and a heavy road car to boot isn't going to make anything like quite as much difference as er.. say simply an even stickier tyre in terms of improving lap times....
In fairness what else should they do. It is not like a GT3 car is exactly lightweight and they have similar aero. I assume you could run this on slicks and you wouldn’t be that much slower (slower yes as still a few hundred kg in it, but given this is road legal, it looks like it is as close as you can get). I would not change my 997 for one of these as the 997 is probably the more enjoyable road car, but if I was very focused on track days and didn’t want to trailer, then it looks like it could be a decent option.
Certainly a nice option to have for some people I guess

isaldiri

18,606 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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MDL111 said:
In fairness what else should they do. It is not like a GT3 car is exactly lightweight and they have similar aero. I assume you could run this on slicks and you wouldn’t be that much slower (slower yes as still a few hundred kg in it, but given this is road legal, it looks like it is as close as you can get). I would not change my 997 for one of these as the 997 is probably the more enjoyable road car, but if I was very focused on track days and didn’t want to trailer, then it looks like it could be a decent option.
Certainly a nice option to have for some people I guess
I'll probably dispute that a GT3 race car has similar aero to even a GT3 rs road car tbh... Just look at their respective ride heights for example.....

But anywhow,l I don't disagree at all that if focused on trackdays it's going to be an excellent option to have although again I'd probably dispute how much all the extra 'aero' the 992 rs will have over the 991 rs (either gen) is going to make to 99% of people driving the car even on track.

Is all the aero making the car faster - certainly. Is it necessarily quite as significant as the marketing hype might have one believe....? Not entirely convinced I have to say.

Echo Delta

58 posts

39 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Can't be certain but I think I saw the new GT3 RS on the M3 this evening. Didn't get close it was on other carriageway heading up to the M25 or London.

Wing looked massive!

TDT

4,942 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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MeisterH said:
The New RS i think will shock the motoring world, being a NA with the huge amount of of aero that it will have and the lap times that it be able to achieve.
I’ve heard N’ring lap is well below 6m40! I guess we’ll see soon enough. Mega.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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TDT said:
I’ve heard N’ring lap is well below 6m40! I guess we’ll see soon enough. Mega.
Been told same like well below, also full launch like EVO says later this year...Dont recall being so excited over a car for a long time

MeisterH

830 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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If you listen to the yanks they say August reveal with LA auto show! I have to agree I haven’t been this excited for ages…. Take that as you will haha

ChrisW.

6,325 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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TDT said:
MeisterH said:
The New RS i think will shock the motoring world, being a NA with the huge amount of of aero that it will have and the lap times that it be able to achieve.
I’ve heard N’ring lap is well below 6m40! I guess we’ll see soon enough. Mega.
Though downforce is proportional to the square of the speed ... hence grippier tyres delivering higher cornering speed and maximising down force is a virtual circle ... until the car gets untidy and it all goes wrong ?

And the benefits are much smaller for less experienced drivers ... hence stickier tyres are a better solution but can wear much more quickly ...

MeisterH

830 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Soo.. I’ll ask again… Where is the Author of this thread? Have not seen him around the Porsche forums for ages, always a jovial character.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

103 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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MeisterH said:
Soo.. I’ll ask again… Where is the Author of this thread? Have not seen him around the Porsche forums for ages, always a jovial character.
Why don't you ask HIM ?

MeisterH

830 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Taffy66 said:
Why don't you ask HIM ?
Thats a good shout.. off i go..

peeler

206 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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From another forum
I was told today it will go live soon on the system and I’m 1 of 5 chosen for the shortlist 😎

I love the orange and guards and white, in fact it’s pretty awesome in most colours










Dr. Ian. w.t. F. Porsche

5 posts

82 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Worth pointing out those are fan created images and colour schemes, not official/leaked ones. Via Carrara Design (hence the plates) on Rennlist.

peeler

206 posts

234 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Dr. Ian. w.t. F. Porsche said:
Worth pointing out those are fan created images and colour schemes, not official/leaked ones. Via Carrara Design (hence the plates) on Rennlist.
I didn’t think anyone would think it was anything else apart from photoshop tbh

Looks great in some of the colours though, I’d be leaning towards orange or GR

rkwm1

1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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So there is an unveiling at 19.30 today.

Is it this?