Whats going on with the 991 Turbo S market?

[WCZ]

APOLO1 said:

Good point, i thought that the 992 C2s, with its 450bhp felt a bit quicker than the same power in the likes of the 991.2GTS.

Also its not always about the speed even more so on UK roads with more a more average speed cameras.

the turbo s still makes sense imo but this will be the last generation where it does

looking forward to the details

[APOLO1]

WCZ said:

the turbo s still makes sense imo but this will be the last generation where it does
looking forward to the details

Yea, know what you mean the E tech might mean more power, but also more weight. This new one is meant to be a good bump in Bhp over what has gone before, and a few other bits....

[IMI A]

APOLO1 said:

WCZ said:

the turbo s still makes sense imo but this will be the last generation where it does
looking forward to the details

Yea, know what you mean the E tech might mean more power, but also more weight. This new one is meant to be a good bump in Bhp over what has gone before, and a few other bits....

GT2 RS water spray cooling system?

[APOLO1]

IMI A said:

GT2 RS water spray cooling system?

Lol
They can get the required bhp, without the spray.

[IMI A]

APOLO1 said:

IMI A said:

GT2 RS water spray cooling system?

Lol
They can get the required bhp, without the spray.

Well that depends on what power its running. A 991 GT2 RS struggles to hold on to 700PS round one lap of the ring hence the Manthey upgrades. Ken has one sitting at 9e trying to fix the issue with aerospace intercoolers etc.

[IMI A]

Look what Litchfield getting out of 992 Carrera S and C4S

https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/porsche/porsche-9...

[WCZ]

IMI A said:

Look what Litchfield getting out of 992 Carrera S and C4S

https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/porsche/porsche-9...

yeah it's nuts isn't it and real food for thought.

[APOLO1]

IMI A said:

Well that depends on what power its running. A 991 GT2 RS struggles to hold on to 700PS round one lap of the ring hence the Manthey upgrades. Ken has one sitting at 9e trying to fix the issue with aerospace intercoolers etc.

2RS, will run just under 700bhp without the Water Spray, with the water spray it lowers the intake temps on the Air Charge Coolers by around 15d, this has the effect of another 40 bhp, you can feel the drop off in bhp when the tank runs dry. Round Silverstone on day with like 33d Temp the 5lt water tank will last around 10-12 Laps.

My understanding that the 992 Turbo S will have around 650bhp.

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 28th August 12:34

[Grantstown]

Astonishing for a simple remap of the base model.

I haven’t heard of any engine issues from the 991.2 yet. Are the pistons and crank forged? Will the existing cooling support this power, or perhaps this doesn’t matter away from hard track use? I’m no expert at all, just thoughts.

[IMI A]

Grantstown said:

Astonishing for a simple remap of the base model.

I haven’t heard of any engine issues from the 991.2 yet. Are the pistons and crank forged? Will the existing cooling support this power, or perhaps this doesn’t matter away from hard track use? I’m no expert at all, just thoughts.

I’ve been down and met Ian. If the 992 needed better intercoolers he’d offer them. I believe he stands behind the Porsche warranty but you’d need to speak to him. Litchfield are proper. Astonishing from a remap.

[IMI A]

APOLO1 said:

IMI A said:

Well that depends on what power its running. A 991 GT2 RS struggles to hold on to 700PS round one lap of the ring hence the Manthey upgrades. Ken has one sitting at 9e trying to fix the issue with aerospace intercoolers etc.

2RS, will run just under 700bhp without the Water Spray, with the water spray it lowers the intake temps on the Air Charge Coolers by around 15d, this has the effect of another 40 bhp, you can feel the drop off in bhp when the tank runs dry. Round Silverstone on day with like 33d Temp the 5lt water tank will last around 10-12 Laps.

My understanding that the 992 Turbo S will have around 650bhp.

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 28th August 12:34

Ah I was hoping they’d give it the 991 GT2 RS engine. 650bhp you can run all day no probs at all. Even 680bhp fine with latest 9e set up. They have the 991.2 turbo s absolutely flying.

[Grantstown]

IMI A said:

Grantstown said:

Astonishing for a simple remap of the base model.

I haven’t heard of any engine issues from the 991.2 yet. Are the pistons and crank forged? Will the existing cooling support this power, or perhaps this doesn’t matter away from hard track use? I’m no expert at all, just thoughts.

I’ve been down and met Ian. If the 992 needed better intercoolers he’d offer them. I believe he stands behind the Porsche warranty but you’d need to speak to him. Litchfield are proper. Astonishing from a remap.

I’m sure he would. There’s also 9E and I imagine Neinmeister, with their rolling road, would offer a good tuning solution.

[IMI A]

Litchfield stand behind the Porsche warranty with their remap so if anything goes wrong you have that additional peace of mind.

9e very good too but you'll have to check with Ken re warranty I'm not 100% but knowing them you won't have any problems.

9m better for air cooled which they seem to have developed to the nth degree. Their 3.8 330/330ft lbs upgrade for 964 and 993 engine makes those cars better than RS with additional modern chassis upgrades and sticky rubber.

[WCZ]

APOLO1 said:

My understanding that the 992 Turbo S will have around 650bhp.

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 28th August 12:34

with the remap a carrera is only 70hp behind and ~ £73,000 cheaper (possibly more)

for reference a standard older gen car vs the turbo s was 226hp down

I think i'd rather save the money and have a mapped standard car, but i'll decide closer to the time.