Do you get much jealously ?
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DJMC said:
OP... could you say what you were wearing as you loaded the car and received the abuse?
If it was a morning suit with tails, and a top hat I'd expect no abuse.
A dark pin striped suit, even just the trousers, with a tie = yes, that might trigger abuse.
Shorts, flip-flops, T-shirt = no abuse.
Any type of peaked cap = abuse, especially with sunglasses.
A policeman's uniform = abuse.
Suspenders, stockings, and a basque = no abuse.
This > https://www.escapade.co.uk/adult-costumes/fun/infl... = abuse.
Leather hot pants and a cod piece = Definite wIf it was a morning suit with tails, and a top hat I'd expect no abuse.
A dark pin striped suit, even just the trousers, with a tie = yes, that might trigger abuse.
Shorts, flip-flops, T-shirt = no abuse.
Any type of peaked cap = abuse, especially with sunglasses.
A policeman's uniform = abuse.
Suspenders, stockings, and a basque = no abuse.
This > https://www.escapade.co.uk/adult-costumes/fun/infl... = abuse.
ker ,, hahaha.not had it with porsches but have with ferrari and it's not bothered me as it's part of life and from the point of view of someone who's struggling to pay basic bills etc I can see how someone driving around in a £200k+ car would annoy them
I was more annoyed when someone screamed "you've got a st car" for no reason when I was driving a fiesta st!
I was more annoyed when someone screamed "you've got a s
t car" for no reason when I was driving a fiesta st!popeyewhite said:
gwsinc said:
My general rule for pretty much everything is 'don't be a d*ck'.
If you've worked hard and managed to buy a £100k+ car then you can do what you like with it, and if this means taking it to Lidl for some shopping then that's fine.
If you are aware of the resentment you might cause with certain elements of society by driving to a less than upmarket location in an (perceived) upmarket car and you are happy to deal with any catcalls or vandalism, that's fine. If you wander round with rose tinteds on thinking you can do what you like with it without consequences then you're a d*ck. These things happen, and they happen more with Porsches because rightly or wrongly people see them as aspirational cars often driven by showoffs. Excessive pride will only make you more of a target.If you've worked hard and managed to buy a £100k+ car then you can do what you like with it, and if this means taking it to Lidl for some shopping then that's fine.
Many other people don't live by this rule, and are d*cks. As long as no sticks or stones are involved, and you haven't been a d*ck , then there's no reason to worry about it.
Further to this I'd say it goes without saying that anyone with a nice car, Porsche or otherwise, is constantly thinking about the consequences of where they park their car. The OP here I assume made a conscious decision that on that day at Lidl, risk to the car was acceptable.
So my point here is: yes you can can take your GT3 RS to Lidl, and you should be free to so so if you wish. Personally I wouldn't, and own a £1000 banger for such trips, but I don't look negatively on anyone who does.
Was on a RoadTrip last year and had my 993 keyed down both sides, front to back in a southern French village.. Bizarre thing..
Claimed on insurance and had some of the other paint fixed whilst it was in the Shop, so turned it into an opportunity..
I think it took me a day or so to bring myself to look at it more closely after it had happened..
But other than that, get nothing but wistful smiling looks when I drive my 993..
Claimed on insurance and had some of the other paint fixed whilst it was in the Shop, so turned it into an opportunity..
I think it took me a day or so to bring myself to look at it more closely after it had happened..
But other than that, get nothing but wistful smiling looks when I drive my 993..
WCZ said:
not had it with porsches but have with ferrari and it's not bothered me as it's part of life and from the point of view of someone who's struggling to pay basic bills etc I can see how someone driving around in a £200k+ car would annoy them
Why would this annoy them? I honestly don’t understand? When I had very little, driving round in a old Fiesta pop plus 950, with lots of debt and low income not once would I look at a top end car and feel envy/hatred or jealous. I honestly just thought, hopefully that will be me someday. What someone else drives has no impact on my life at all so why get annoyed other than to scream to the world that you are aggrieved with the way your life has turned out?gwsinc said:
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So my point here is: yes you can can take your GT3 RS to Lidl, and you should be free to so so if you wish.
So my point here is: yes you can can take your GT3 RS to Lidl, and you should be free to so so if you wish.
I don't think anyone has said otherwise?
gwsinc said:
Personally I wouldn't, and own a £1000 banger for such trips, but I don't look negatively on anyone who does.
People have been trying to explain why events like that described by the OP occur, in the main. The suggestion that it might be a bit silly to take a hugely expensive sports car into an environment where there are likely to be a few people with a lot less money than the flashy car owner and these people might resent this is, however, not without common sense.I've had the odd coffee beans whilst driving my Exige, almost always from blokes in white vans. I assumed my nice car had somehow threatened their fragile egos.
I also had an old guy wave me through a narrow gap on a tight B-road, as I got close to him I waved my thanks and he gave me the Vs
Very odd thing to do.
I also had an old guy wave me through a narrow gap on a tight B-road, as I got close to him I waved my thanks and he gave me the Vs
Very odd thing to do. notsomadmick said:
Today I went shopping at Lidl.
As I loaded my car afterward, (991.2 GT3) an unknown white male in a VW van drives by my car with his window down. I did not know him. He then leans out the window and shouts: "You f...ing w..ker - that's what a right f...ing w....ker looks like."
Since the was no pre-road rage issue, I assumed the man was probably jealous.
I have the odd family member who more politely frowns on my excess spending on cars - just wondered if anyone else experiences this sort of rubbish ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMPWDHjiuRAAs I loaded my car afterward, (991.2 GT3) an unknown white male in a VW van drives by my car with his window down. I did not know him. He then leans out the window and shouts: "You f...ing w..ker - that's what a right f...ing w....ker looks like."
Since the was no pre-road rage issue, I assumed the man was probably jealous.
I have the odd family member who more politely frowns on my excess spending on cars - just wondered if anyone else experiences this sort of rubbish ?
Top bants that?
garystoybox said:
When I had very little, driving round in a old Fiesta pop plus 950, with lots of debt and low income not once would I look at a top end car and feel envy/hatred or jealous. I honestly just thought, hopefully that will be me someday.
Well in some way it's a self fulfilling prophecy isn't it, an attitude like yours is going to take you further in life than being a nasty boligerent entitled tosser like the white van man in the OPI’ve probably only had one person make an obvious reaction to my 996. That was a woman who suggested, by the motion of her little finger, that I have a small penis. She was driving an Audi Q7! It all started because she tried to drive said Q7 over the front of my car because she couldn’t follow a set of white lines.
Beyond the above I mostly get people trying to show me how fast their car is. Often it seems to be modern stuff. Only yesterday a guy in a BMW M2 wanted a go.
Beyond the above I mostly get people trying to show me how fast their car is. Often it seems to be modern stuff. Only yesterday a guy in a BMW M2 wanted a go.
garystoybox said:
WCZ said:
not had it with porsches but have with ferrari and it's not bothered me as it's part of life and from the point of view of someone who's struggling to pay basic bills etc I can see how someone driving around in a £200k+ car would annoy them
Why would this annoy them? I honestly don’t understand? When I had very little, driving round in a old Fiesta pop plus 950, with lots of debt and low income not once would I look at a top end car and feel envy/hatred or jealous. I honestly just thought, hopefully that will be me someday. What someone else drives has no impact on my life at all so why get annoyed other than to scream to the world that you are aggrieved with the way your life has turned out?Whilst we have all the social media influencers and their cars at the one extreme I think there is generally less interest in nice cars by snowflakes and millenials and this is filtering through.
Only the other day some teenage oik with a catapult fired a stone at my car but fortunately it missed but if it hadn't I wouldn't have been responsible for my actions and I would have probably ended up being locked up not him.
Unfortunately that is the world we now live in.
garystoybox said:
Why would this annoy them? I honestly don’t understand? When I had very little, driving round in a old Fiesta pop plus 950, with lots of debt and low income not once would I look at a top end car and feel envy/hatred or jealous. I honestly just thought, hopefully that will be me someday. What someone else drives has no impact on my life at all so why get annoyed other than to scream to the world that you are aggrieved with the way your life has turned out?
it's never annoyed me either, even when I had nothing but inequality upsets some people, that's just the way life is and I acknowledge that.av185 said:
I take the view that the world has changed in general terms over the last few years and there is alot more jealousy and envy together with a lot less respect for material possessions.
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100% correct, it's also being fed by politics too. 'For the many not the few' and other anti-capitalist mantra's being promoted to the point where the growing 'have nots' believe anybody who has been successful has only achieved their success by tax dodging or robbing from the poor, or both!…..
Still, taking a GT3 to Lidl is asking for it
WCZ said:
garystoybox said:
Why would this annoy them? I honestly don’t understand? When I had very little, driving round in a old Fiesta pop plus 950, with lots of debt and low income not once would I look at a top end car and feel envy/hatred or jealous. I honestly just thought, hopefully that will be me someday. What someone else drives has no impact on my life at all so why get annoyed other than to scream to the world that you are aggrieved with the way your life has turned out?
it's never annoyed me either, even when I had nothing but inequality upsets some people, that's just the way life is and I acknowledge that.I am 70 now and as a very poor kid on Ireland I would sometimes see an expensive car and wonder at it. Yet, what was different was that there was a chance to progress for me and many others. Like many of my generation I could get summer work in factories, scholarships and so on to school and have a variety of job opportunities when I graduated. Looking at a rare E Type was magic, but there was just a remote chance that one day, some day I might get a nice car. I did not resent the people who had one, just dreamed about one day.....
So many did well because the job market was expanding.
Now, it is much tougher for younger people. Housing has become unaffordable, long term careers difficult, pensions a joke outside public service.
There is little job security relatively.
We have greater income inequality combined with endless media coverage of the idle rich. You can hardly turn to a newsfeed without seeing some picture of Kim Kardashian, some oligarch's yacht, Middle East cars zooming through Knightsbridge.
As a result, many people see no way forward -you need to constantly adapt. Thus ,seeing some perfectly inoffensive person in a Porsche or the like does not create hope but rage when you know there is no realistic way upwards.
The Surveyor said:
av185 said:
I take the view that the world has changed in general terms over the last few years and there is alot more jealousy and envy together with a lot less respect for material possessions.
…..
100% correct, it's also being fed by politics too. 'For the many not the few' and other anti-capitalist mantra's being promoted to the point where the growing 'have nots' believe anybody who has been successful has only achieved their success by tax dodging or robbing from the poor, or both!…..
Still, taking a GT3 to Lidl is asking for it
RDMcG said:
To be fair I think something has changed.
I am 70 now and as a very poor kid on Ireland I would sometimes see an expensive car and wonder at it. Yet, what was different was that there was a chance to progress for me and many others. Like many of my generation I could get summer work in factories, scholarships and so on to school and have a variety of job opportunities when I graduated. Looking at a rare E Type was magic, but there was just a remote chance that one day, some day I might get a nice car. I did not resent the people who had one, just dreamed about one day.....
So many did well because the job market was expanding.
Now, it is much tougher for younger people. Housing has become unaffordable, long term careers difficult, pensions a joke outside public service.
There is little job security relatively.
We have greater income inequality combined with endless media coverage of the idle rich. You can hardly turn to a newsfeed without seeing some picture of Kim Kardashian, some oligarch's yacht, Middle East cars zooming through Knightsbridge.
As a result, many people see no way forward -you need to constantly adapt. Thus ,seeing some perfectly inoffensive person in a Porsche or the like does not create hope but rage when you know there is no realistic way upwards.
Great post. I am 70 now and as a very poor kid on Ireland I would sometimes see an expensive car and wonder at it. Yet, what was different was that there was a chance to progress for me and many others. Like many of my generation I could get summer work in factories, scholarships and so on to school and have a variety of job opportunities when I graduated. Looking at a rare E Type was magic, but there was just a remote chance that one day, some day I might get a nice car. I did not resent the people who had one, just dreamed about one day.....
So many did well because the job market was expanding.
Now, it is much tougher for younger people. Housing has become unaffordable, long term careers difficult, pensions a joke outside public service.
There is little job security relatively.
We have greater income inequality combined with endless media coverage of the idle rich. You can hardly turn to a newsfeed without seeing some picture of Kim Kardashian, some oligarch's yacht, Middle East cars zooming through Knightsbridge.
As a result, many people see no way forward -you need to constantly adapt. Thus ,seeing some perfectly inoffensive person in a Porsche or the like does not create hope but rage when you know there is no realistic way upwards.
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