991.2 GT3 sell now or keep dilemma
Discussion
If those recently leaked pictures of the Turbo S are real, you’d have to guess that’s the next model launch?
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/19/porsche-911-99...
Pictures of GTS have been about too. So it’s anyone’s guess.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/14/porsche-911-gt...
But if I had to put my house on it, I’d say the GT3 Touring.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/19/porsche-911-99...
Pictures of GTS have been about too. So it’s anyone’s guess.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/14/porsche-911-gt...
But if I had to put my house on it, I’d say the GT3 Touring.
Porsche911R said:
mileage is not the issue, people are way way to hung up on miles.
Most GT4 are over 10k miles also now, people are using their cars, what happens is Mileage reflects price.
you can buy a 991.1 RS with some miles on for £127k
you can buy a 996 RS with 70k miles on for less than a car with £20k miles.
that's how you price cars :-) nothing wrong with miles on a car as long as it's cheaper which is the case.
Fair enough, so basically ignore the few on here that seem to think anything above 3k miles is not worth a look! Most GT4 are over 10k miles also now, people are using their cars, what happens is Mileage reflects price.
you can buy a 991.1 RS with some miles on for £127k
you can buy a 996 RS with 70k miles on for less than a car with £20k miles.
that's how you price cars :-) nothing wrong with miles on a car as long as it's cheaper which is the case.
Denno B said:
The red Sheffield Opc car seems reasonably priced at £126k with decent spec, I guess the mileage at 15k is moon mileage for this type of car though.
On reflection it probably needs to be nearer £120k with that mileage, most likely one of if not the highest mileage gen 2 cars for sale.
Right, its not a car i would look at as i like the low milers garage queens.On reflection it probably needs to be nearer £120k with that mileage, most likely one of if not the highest mileage gen 2 cars for sale.
Edited by Denno B on Friday 21st February 08:25
Marlie,s Miami car sounds nice.
Yes the Garage queen phenomenon , will plague the usage of the cars . I remember having a moan about not getting a car initially .....but Porsche did make way to many GT cars , sadly selling most to essentially non users of the cars .
I have no gripe with that , just do not understand it .
We had a Matching numbers , original paint , ex-Alex job , semi works 993 RSR ....... did it just sit in a garage , of course not , I remember racing it on clicks in a down pour .... fun times
I have no gripe with that , just do not understand it .
We had a Matching numbers , original paint , ex-Alex job , semi works 993 RSR ....... did it just sit in a garage , of course not , I remember racing it on clicks in a down pour .... fun times
Denno B said:
Fair enough, so basically ignore the few on here that seem to think anything above 3k miles is not worth a look!
again if you want a sub 3k mile cars it's £140k as you would expect, with del miles £150kif you want to put 10k on these cars you loose £30k, so it's daft.
the TH yellow one is great value but for some reason on new GT3 yellow don't sell, where on GT4 yellow sells no issue.
Odd but true.
I am after a car atm not aporker , it's low miles and very expensive, the sellers trying to talk me out of it as it's a collectors car and it would be daft to use it.
so they say !
The markets bonkers daft.
I am trying to find a car with 10k miles as to not take that big hit as I will add another 20k miles to it in 2 years.
I told them that and they said they would not take that car back if it were over 20k miles lol !!!
in porkers circles I think you have 3 price points.
0-3k miles
3k- 29k
30-60k
I aim to buy and sell cars in the 3k-29k ranges ie buy above 3k miles sell below 29k miles. that's seems the best on Porkers imo to use and then have no issues selling later , cars are normally in warranty and full OPC history also.
Essentially whats happened with higher end used cars across the board including Porsche GTs is that the garage queens have dropped the average accepatable mileage substantially and this is now considered the norm hence the prices of lower mileage cars relatively have risen and higher mileage cars have suffered disproportionately.
If you think its ott and somewhat exaggerated with Porsche GTs try selling a higher than average mile Mclaren or 488 and see what eye wateringly low ball bids they attract.
Worth noting that actual book price ££ relatively doesn't hammer the 991 GT3 too badly as the miles increase compared to other stuff at comparable prices used.
If you think its ott and somewhat exaggerated with Porsche GTs try selling a higher than average mile Mclaren or 488 and see what eye wateringly low ball bids they attract.
Worth noting that actual book price ££ relatively doesn't hammer the 991 GT3 too badly as the miles increase compared to other stuff at comparable prices used.
It’s all relative I guess, a car bought for low £120k with 15k on the clock used as a weekend/ summer car doing 2-3k miles per year over 3/4 years the initial higher mileage will balance out when the time comes to move it on.
So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
Edited by Denno B on Friday 21st February 11:15
Denno B said:
It’s all relative I guess, a car bought for low £120k with 15k on the clock used as a weekend/ summer car doing 2-3k miles per year over 3/4 years the initial higher mileage will balance out when the time comes to move it on.
So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
its seems 4k PA is the norm for GT products, so it's classed as higher miles if above that.So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
Edited by Denno B on Friday 21st February 11:15
If you can bring the ave down to that over time then it would stand you well imo.
where a Normal porker is 8k PA
And a Ford lets say, is classed at 12k PA.
Ferrari is the other way and at 3k PA.
Denno B said:
It’s all relative I guess, a car bought for low £120k with 15k on the clock used as a weekend/ summer car doing 2-3k miles per year over 3/4 years the initial higher mileage will balance out when the time comes to move it on.
So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
Nothing wrong with higher mileage cars ,tbh I’ve always thought every Porsche I’ve had has got better with miles ,it’s just peoples perceptions and the types of buyers .So for arguments sake if that lost 30k over that time, a low miler bought at £145k used in the same way will still lose £30k. Pretty basic common sense I appreciate but shows that higher mileage cars shouldn’t necessarily be discounted.....if the spec is right of course
Edited by Denno B on Friday 21st February 11:15
franki68 said:
Nothing wrong with higher mileage cars ,tbh I’ve always thought every Porsche I’ve had has got better with miles ,it’s just peoples perceptions and the types of buyers .
Agree and reckon the 991.1 GT3 didnt fully run in until 5k miles.Nothing worse than a minimal mileage car that hasnt been properly run in.
Folks say you dont need to run cars in these days but doing so always pays dividends whatever the car imo.
Melvynr said:
I don't get this running in properly malarky, GT engines are pre ran in, Porsche will tell you to take it to a track with delivery miles.
All engines are better run in right, other wise they can feel tight or use oil.Not many people know how to run an engine in though, I use to have all my dads company cars, they all went over the clock speedo, he was the master and I do the same.
Non of this 4K limit and no lugging etc etc. But a well run in engine will be a faster unit for sure.
Melvynr said:
I don't get this running in properly malarky, GT engines are pre ran in, Porsche will tell you to take it to a track with delivery miles.
Pretty sure they don’t, manual tells you to keep it below 4k rpm. It’s not just the engine you’re running in, gearbox, brakes etc all benefit from running in. In the case of PCCB’s they definitely need bedding in. Porsche911R said:
All engines are better run in right, other wise they can feel tight or use oil.
Not many people know how to run an engine in though, I use to have all my dads company cars, they all went over the clock speedo, he was the master and I do the same.
Non of this 4K limit and no lugging etc etc. But a well run in engine will be a faster unit for sure.
You are Yoda, the force is with you.Not many people know how to run an engine in though, I use to have all my dads company cars, they all went over the clock speedo, he was the master and I do the same.
Non of this 4K limit and no lugging etc etc. But a well run in engine will be a faster unit for sure.
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