Used 997s - How low do they go and what's selling?
Discussion
Superdavros said:
Bought my 2006 3.8S with 50k miles on it and have done 25,000 mile a year in it and it’s on 134,000 now.
Clutch at 50k and one at 130k
Some usual stuff of about £1.5k a year and a windscreen.....
It might blow up, but in the meantime it’s entirely practical and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Can’t think of anything to replace it, as the cost to change to a 991 would be about £15k, for which I could get a new engine/gearbox and suspension Refurb and start again.
Do you mean £25k+? Clutch at 50k and one at 130k
Some usual stuff of about £1.5k a year and a windscreen.....
It might blow up, but in the meantime it’s entirely practical and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Can’t think of anything to replace it, as the cost to change to a 991 would be about £15k, for which I could get a new engine/gearbox and suspension Refurb and start again.
a1butch said:
Superdavros said:
Bought my 2006 3.8S with 50k miles on it and have done 25,000 mile a year in it and it’s on 134,000 now.
Clutch at 50k and one at 130k
Some usual stuff of about £1.5k a year and a windscreen.....
It might blow up, but in the meantime it’s entirely practical and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Can’t think of anything to replace it, as the cost to change to a 991 would be about £15k, for which I could get a new engine/gearbox and suspension Refurb and start again.
Do you mean £25k+? Clutch at 50k and one at 130k
Some usual stuff of about £1.5k a year and a windscreen.....
It might blow up, but in the meantime it’s entirely practical and makes me smile every time I drive it.
Can’t think of anything to replace it, as the cost to change to a 991 would be about £15k, for which I could get a new engine/gearbox and suspension Refurb and start again.
The return journey in my first 911 is probably worthy of a thread on its own, with an epic 600 mile journey, a very near miss with a deer (near John O' Groats of all places!) black ice and mad gritter lorries (pity my paintwork now). And this after a full day at the NEC Bike Show!
The private sale was a very positive experience and the car has a very decent service history file. It even came with a full tank of fuel.
I'll no doubt be hanging around the forums a lot, to get 'the knowledge', but my first 911 drive was certainly memorable and a driving experience on another level altogether.
The private sale was a very positive experience and the car has a very decent service history file. It even came with a full tank of fuel.
I'll no doubt be hanging around the forums a lot, to get 'the knowledge', but my first 911 drive was certainly memorable and a driving experience on another level altogether.
mellowman said:
The return journey in my first 911 is probably worthy of a thread on its own, with an epic 600 mile journey, a very near miss with a deer (near John O' Groats of all places!) black ice and mad gritter lorries (pity my paintwork now). And this after a full day at the NEC Bike Show!
The private sale was a very positive experience and the car has a very decent service history file. It even came with a full tank of fuel.
I'll no doubt be hanging around the forums a lot, to get 'the knowledge', but my first 911 drive was certainly memorable and a driving experience on another level altogether.
So you went for the Zuffenhaus car? Looked decent from the pics. Well done The private sale was a very positive experience and the car has a very decent service history file. It even came with a full tank of fuel.
I'll no doubt be hanging around the forums a lot, to get 'the knowledge', but my first 911 drive was certainly memorable and a driving experience on another level altogether.
mellowman said:
Thanks for the responses, all great insights.
I am happy to compromise, hence accepting I might be up against a load of 3.6 tiptronics with big miles and few options at this end of the market, but it's clear there are some manuals and a few 3.8s around at this level too.
What I find hard to rationalise is whether the manual box is the one thing I should hold out for. Are there any tiptronic drivers that enjoy spirited driving on twisty roads with the box in manual mode, that might like to comment?
The higher tax is a useful bargaining factor. Again, I'm happy to play the "nobody wants these" line in negotiations.
It will be a daily driver not a garage queen.
I own a 2007 997.1 3.6 TiptronicS. I absolutely love driving the car and do not see what all the negative comments about tiptronic are about. I understand PDK is much better but don’t be put off by Tip.I am happy to compromise, hence accepting I might be up against a load of 3.6 tiptronics with big miles and few options at this end of the market, but it's clear there are some manuals and a few 3.8s around at this level too.
What I find hard to rationalise is whether the manual box is the one thing I should hold out for. Are there any tiptronic drivers that enjoy spirited driving on twisty roads with the box in manual mode, that might like to comment?
The higher tax is a useful bargaining factor. Again, I'm happy to play the "nobody wants these" line in negotiations.
It will be a daily driver not a garage queen.
Mariosbt said:
mellowman said:
Thanks for the responses, all great insights.
I am happy to compromise, hence accepting I might be up against a load of 3.6 tiptronics with big miles and few options at this end of the market, but it's clear there are some manuals and a few 3.8s around at this level too.
What I find hard to rationalise is whether the manual box is the one thing I should hold out for. Are there any tiptronic drivers that enjoy spirited driving on twisty roads with the box in manual mode, that might like to comment?
The higher tax is a useful bargaining factor. Again, I'm happy to play the "nobody wants these" line in negotiations.
It will be a daily driver not a garage queen.
I own a 2007 997.1 3.6 TiptronicS. I absolutely love driving the car and do not see what all the negative comments about tiptronic are about. I understand PDK is much better but don’t be put off by Tip.I am happy to compromise, hence accepting I might be up against a load of 3.6 tiptronics with big miles and few options at this end of the market, but it's clear there are some manuals and a few 3.8s around at this level too.
What I find hard to rationalise is whether the manual box is the one thing I should hold out for. Are there any tiptronic drivers that enjoy spirited driving on twisty roads with the box in manual mode, that might like to comment?
The higher tax is a useful bargaining factor. Again, I'm happy to play the "nobody wants these" line in negotiations.
It will be a daily driver not a garage queen.
Mariosbt said:
Glad to see you got your 911. What mileage has it done and is it manual?
Thanks. It's a manual with 85k miles. Looking through the service history, it's amazing just how many items have already been replaced. I have a contingency fund for big bills, but plan to do a lot of preventative work. The push to buy it came from realising I'd spent £4000 on repairs to my Renault Trafic van over the past two years, as well as having to replace the engine on a newish Hyundai - both are now sold. If I'm going to be spending that kind of money I might as well have something I really enjoy!
Mariosbt said:
I own a 2007 997.1 3.6 TiptronicS. I absolutely love driving the car and do not see what all the negative comments about tiptronic are about. I understand PDK is much better but don’t be put off by Tip.
I'd just sold an automatic car to free up funds for the 911 - a Jeep Renegade (aka Fiat 500X) with the recent 9-speed transmission. I found it unacceptably jerky for a modern 'box and that and the poor ride were some of the reasons for selling it. Typically, the run down to the place where I sold it, with lovely clear, twisty roads was an absolute blast and I really enjoyed my last drive in it!My 997 has a short shifter, and I do enjoy the physicality of changing gear and 'getting it right'.
mellowman said:
Mariosbt said:
I own a 2007 997.1 3.6 TiptronicS. I absolutely love driving the car and do not see what all the negative comments about tiptronic are about. I understand PDK is much better but don’t be put off by Tip.
I'd just sold an automatic car to free up funds for the 911 - a Jeep Renegade (aka Fiat 500X) with the recent 9-speed transmission. I found it unacceptably jerky for a modern 'box and that and the poor ride were some of the reasons for selling it. Typically, the run down to the place where I sold it, with lovely clear, twisty roads was an absolute blast and I really enjoyed my last drive in it!My 997 has a short shifter, and I do enjoy the physicality of changing gear and 'getting it right'.
golfer19 said:
I took the plunge and bought a 997 Gen 1 last week.
My first 911 and loving it so far including the 600 mile drive to bring it home.
67k with a Harlech rebuild at 54k.
Great service history with all invoices for all work done.
Great stuff! I had a mega drive to bring my 911 home and it really helped to reveal a 911's magic. Everything it does feels purposeful and tactile.My first 911 and loving it so far including the 600 mile drive to bring it home.
67k with a Harlech rebuild at 54k.
Great service history with all invoices for all work done.
The Hartech work will give real peace of mind and allow you to keep on top of the the other stuff that 911s need. My 911 spent some time in Spain and I have lots of invoices from OPCs that I managed to fathom using Google Translate's OCR feature - very handy.
I'm already planning a few short trips away, including a North Coast 500 over the coming week.
mellowman said:
golfer19 said:
I took the plunge and bought a 997 Gen 1 last week.
My first 911 and loving it so far including the 600 mile drive to bring it home.
67k with a Harlech rebuild at 54k.
Great service history with all invoices for all work done.
Great stuff! I had a mega drive to bring my 911 home and it really helped to reveal a 911's magic. Everything it does feels purposeful and tactile.My first 911 and loving it so far including the 600 mile drive to bring it home.
67k with a Harlech rebuild at 54k.
Great service history with all invoices for all work done.
The Hartech work will give real peace of mind and allow you to keep on top of the the other stuff that 911s need. My 911 spent some time in Spain and I have lots of invoices from OPCs that I managed to fathom using Google Translate's OCR feature - very handy.
I'm already planning a few short trips away, including a North Coast 500 over the coming week.
Please Keep us posted on how you get on. After many months of procrastinating on what I should spend my money on (hot hatches, E46 M3, 996, etc) I’ve decided to dig a bit deeper and go down the 997 route. The horror stories around the bore scoring still scare me (IMS less so) but a risk worth taking.
Looked at a 2007 3.8s manual 70k miles couple of weeks ago at a dealer. Was at the top of the price range but a great spec.
Will probably miss out on that one so hoping to buy towards end of Jan.............when prices start to go up again!
I’ve had lots of nice cars and bought a 2005 C2S a year or so ago. Hartech rebuild. Was going to be a short termer but liked it so much I put Ohlins on and gave it to Chris at CG to do his stuff. Such a great car. Not crazy quick like some I’ve owned but better for it. Really useable and the handling feels really on your side.
At insurance renewal time I asked for a price to add my 22 year old daughter. £49!! Even with changed suspension.
I’ve owned other non-hartech 996 and 7s but always worried about holding on too long because of potential engine bork.
Not a concern with 996 GT3 but too harsh for every day (for me at least) or 997 turbo. That was a great car. A step on in maintenance costs and maybe not as dynamic as the GT3 7 but what a cracking car for the money. Seems wrong to have a C2S and a turbo but will deffo get another turbo and the C2S isn’t going anywhere.
At insurance renewal time I asked for a price to add my 22 year old daughter. £49!! Even with changed suspension.
I’ve owned other non-hartech 996 and 7s but always worried about holding on too long because of potential engine bork.
Not a concern with 996 GT3 but too harsh for every day (for me at least) or 997 turbo. That was a great car. A step on in maintenance costs and maybe not as dynamic as the GT3 7 but what a cracking car for the money. Seems wrong to have a C2S and a turbo but will deffo get another turbo and the C2S isn’t going anywhere.
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