PCCB out braked the steels last night on 5th gear.

PCCB out braked the steels last night on 5th gear.

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AndrewD

7,539 posts

285 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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JulierPass said:
SRT Hellcat said:
So a good sim setup is going to set you back what £7k. If I was sure I could get a buzz from it I would seriously consider it.
Once you have experienced something along the lines of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-TG7Y9a5c&t=...
very little else can give you that adrenaline rush. That said I would imagine that Michael is paying probably £20,000, maybe £25,000 for each event plus damage for his buzz.
fk spendng 7K on a sim. For that you can buy an mx5 and make some mods. You'll never look at wet roundabouts in the same way again smile
Even less than 7k. Think my wife’s car stands her around 5k so far and that’s with 180bhp, uprated dampers, brakes, clutch and roll bar. smile

AndrewD

7,539 posts

285 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Dammit said:
All the self awareness of a cat licking its bottom whilst sat on the breadboard.
Priceless rofl

Porsche911R

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21,146 posts

266 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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stef1808 said:
What's that?
Best mod I did, my seat shakes, when you hit bumbs, rumble strips, etc adds a load of extra feel.

Yes I would love to race a RSR , but that costs 3 million quid.

My RSR costs $14 for life.

Not only do you need a ton of money to race, you need time and a wife that supports it all even at basic levels. Ok if you had a wife like Ken miles.

I only sim 4 hours a week I don’t have the time to do any more.

Porsche911R

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21,146 posts

266 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Yellow491 said:
Best work out and learning for me was ice driving with tuthills,and having done many coaching days ,week courses etc
A sim is not going to get any where near the physical,especially with gloves on!
3 of use are planning to do that cannot wait.
I have done every thing, rally school, drift school, race school, track training, sim racing, race rc from 12 years old.

Rally is the hardest imo.

It all helps esp at 50 when it’s really getting harder and harder to be fast.

I wish I would have raced early doors, but buying a house at 17 really puts a stop to racing on ave wages.

Digga

40,334 posts

284 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yes, I'm sticking to mtb training. Mud, rain and leaves obscuring slippy roots is plenty to keep the reactions sharp. And no way you'd burn 690 active calories (884 overall) sat in a sim for two hours. So I can enjoy a hefty helping of Sunday roast later. biggrin

hunter 66

3,907 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day

Yellow491

2,924 posts

120 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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hunter 66 said:
This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day
Depends if you had the fear gland removed or notsmile

JulierPass

641 posts

231 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Porsche911R said:
3 of use are planning to do that cannot wait.
I have done every thing, rally school, drift school, race school, track training, sim racing, race rc from 12 years old.
All of those courses and you still can’t keep your foot in round blanchimont?? I’d be after a refund.

Edited by JulierPass on Sunday 24th November 21:52

Porsche911R

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21,146 posts

266 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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JulierPass said:
All courses and you still can’t keep your foot in round blanchimont?? I’d be after a refund.
Did not have the balls was that simple, my 987 Spyder does not create any down force and Infact has lift, at about 140mph it did not feel good enough to keep my foot flat. It needed a very slight lift for my confidence.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 24th November 20:41

SRT Hellcat

7,034 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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JulierPass said:
All courses and you still can’t keep your foot in round blanchimont?? I’d be after a refund.
Not in the Griff on Dunlop M crossplies, maybe on Avon radials

isaldiri

18,604 posts

169 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Porsche911R said:
JulierPass said:
All courses and you still can’t keep your foot in round blanchimont?? I’d be after a refund.
Did not have the balls was that simple, my 987 Spyder does not create any down force and Infact has lift, at about 140mph it did not feel good enough to keep my foot flat. It needed a very slight lift for my confidence.
There is no way a 987 (any 987) is doing 140mph before blanchimont1 nevermind b2....

JayK12

2,324 posts

203 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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hunter 66 said:
This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day
Not if your in a 1hr or 1hr30min race with 30 other drivers from around the world. Your working out in practice what setup to run for qualifying, usual stuff tyre compound, fuel loads pressures, and the general setup your happy to kill the tyres over one lap. Over an hour or more the car setup is changed as you know and take into account pitstops, and when your in the race if something changes every straight you get, your doing to the math to change fuel tyre strategy and setting up a new pit stop.

The biggest rush is the start, and first few laps, but some races your battling with someone for a whole 60 mins etc. I didn't adjust my qualifying gearing setup for the race in this VLN race and go swamped at the start.

https://youtu.be/qpv6bYROxB0


Max and Lando are always on iracing, those two love sim racing.

Each to there own though but i really like entering sim races.

Yellow491

2,924 posts

120 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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JayK12 said:
hunter 66 said:
This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day
Not if your in a 1hr or 1hr30min race with 30 other drivers from around the world. Your working out in practice what setup to run for qualifying, usual stuff tyre compound, fuel loads pressures, and the general setup your happy to kill the tyres over one lap. Over an hour or more the car setup is changed as you know and take into account pitstops, and when your in the race if something changes every straight you get, your doing to the math to change fuel tyre strategy and setting up a new pit stop.

The biggest rush is the start, and first few laps, but some races your battling with someone for a whole 60 mins etc. I didn't adjust my qualifying gearing setup for the race in this VLN race and go swamped at the start.

https://youtu.be/qpv6bYROxB0


Max and Lando are always on iracing, those two love sim racing.

Each to there own though but i really like entering sim races.
Cant watch any more of that,how do you end up in first and second gear in those fast corners,a maca gt3 aint that long geared,or have i got it all wrong!
Need to go and get my racing gloves.smile

Dr S

4,997 posts

227 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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hunter 66 said:
......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....
Sounds like you did last year's Ring 24h - sh@t myself before the double stint but it turned out to be one of best ones ever

JayK12

2,324 posts

203 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Yellow491 said:
JayK12 said:
hunter 66 said:
This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day
Not if your in a 1hr or 1hr30min race with 30 other drivers from around the world. Your working out in practice what setup to run for qualifying, usual stuff tyre compound, fuel loads pressures, and the general setup your happy to kill the tyres over one lap. Over an hour or more the car setup is changed as you know and take into account pitstops, and when your in the race if something changes every straight you get, your doing to the math to change fuel tyre strategy and setting up a new pit stop.

The biggest rush is the start, and first few laps, but some races your battling with someone for a whole 60 mins etc. I didn't adjust my qualifying gearing setup for the race in this VLN race and go swamped at the start.

https://youtu.be/qpv6bYROxB0


Max and Lando are always on iracing, those two love sim racing.

Each to there own though but i really like entering sim races.
Cant watch any more of that,how do you end up in first and second gear in those fast corners,a maca gt3 aint that long geared,or have i got it all wrong!
Need to go and get my racing gloves.smile
The sim offers adjustable gears and final drive. So for Nordschleife i have it geared really long, SPA i would have it geared shorter. Think is on the long straights you can hit some speed running the aero so just upping 5th and 6th it will bog down so upping all gears or the final drive helps. Thats the balance i found anyways, needed a shorter first for race start though forgot to chnage it doh!

Discombobulate

4,850 posts

187 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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hunter 66 said:
This is all fun Guys , and looks amazing ( yes I am sure all the F1 drivers use them to train ) but the only real reason to race is , adrenalin and yes Fear ......nothing like in the rain at 2 in the morning ....or the minutes before the start ...
So yes 15 mins on a SIM. and guess bored bit like a track day
So true. Not tried a good SIM but always wanted to go home by lunch time on a track day.

Porsche911R

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21,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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Discombobulate said:
So true. Not tried a good SIM but always wanted to go home by lunch time on a track day.
I think I have not even done one for 2 years !! now.

the RS day is more chatting than driving, and even then people go out for 4 laps and come in ! (in the main) and only do 4 stints.
the tracks empty 80% time. and by 3pm no one is there !!!

D.no

706 posts

213 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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Porsche911R said:
the tracks empty 80% time. and by 3pm no one is there !!!
Bloody hell, that sounds brilliant!

Now, someone needs to drop-out so I can get a place.....

Porsche911R

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21,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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D.no said:
Bloody hell, that sounds brilliant!

Now, someone needs to drop-out so I can get a place.....
Just go and sign up for a PM session, many will have left by then and they won't say no to extra money.

Slippydiff

14,838 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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Yellow491 said:
Cant watch any more of that,how do you end up in first and second gear in those fast corners,a maca gt3 aint that long geared,or have i got it all wrong!
Need to go and get my racing gloves.smile
Some on this thread appear to be suggesting that F1 drivers prefer sim time to “real” F1 car testing time.

I’d suggest that if you were to ask any competitive F1 driver if they’d rather spend real seat time testing an F1 car through the Winter at Jerez, Estoril etc, or sat in the sim at Brackley, Silverstone or Woking, they’d chose the former.

Current F1 drivers use sims because they’re forced to , due to the FIA (in their infinite wisdom) effectively banning testing, ostensibly to reduce costs (which it did for the teams that had little or no hope of ever beating the F1 grandees)
But let’s not kid ourselves that sims are some kind of replacement for testing panacea. They’re not.

And to those it may concern, I wouldn’t worry about going off topic too much. This thread was already so horrendously derailed, that a another brief excursion off topic to discuss the cost of PC componentry was hardly likely to add or indeed detract from it ...