Why was the C4S more fun than my Turbo
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Earlier this year my 991 Turbo went in for a service and I was given a manual 991 4S(or S, I cant quite remember which) for a few days.
I had more fun driving the S than my Turbo but I cannot put my finger on why. From memory I felt more connected, and it felt more nimble during urban cirty driving. The fact that the Turbo accelerates faster didn't make the difference. Is it perhaps the fact that the Turbo is TOO fast for the roads and you can't thrash it as much...?
The reason I am bringing this up now is I'm looking to upgrade to a 992 soon and don't know whether to buy a S/4S, or hold out for the Turbo.
Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
I had more fun driving the S than my Turbo but I cannot put my finger on why. From memory I felt more connected, and it felt more nimble during urban cirty driving. The fact that the Turbo accelerates faster didn't make the difference. Is it perhaps the fact that the Turbo is TOO fast for the roads and you can't thrash it as much...?
The reason I am bringing this up now is I'm looking to upgrade to a 992 soon and don't know whether to buy a S/4S, or hold out for the Turbo.
Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
I’ve had a few turbos and always preferred the regular cars,the turbos were always manuals as well .
I found the turbos uncomfortably fast ,and although really incredible machines a bit too much like a fairground ride ,so much grip and torque you feel like you are on a roller coaster.
I found the turbos uncomfortably fast ,and although really incredible machines a bit too much like a fairground ride ,so much grip and torque you feel like you are on a roller coaster.
franki68 said:
I’ve had a few turbos and always preferred the regular cars,the turbos were always manuals as well .
I found the turbos uncomfortably fast ,and although really incredible machines a bit too much like a fairground ride ,so much grip and torque you feel like you are on a roller coaster.
I found the sensation of turbo acceleration was disconcertingly odd; you felt not like the car was gaining speed and traveling, but rather something was pulling the road underneath the car at an unfathomable rate. It seemed to play tricks with your vision in that regard. When you use it enough (given the pace) you get accustomed to it, but I was reminded of it again being a passenger in my mate's (even faster) McLaren 650.I found the turbos uncomfortably fast ,and although really incredible machines a bit too much like a fairground ride ,so much grip and torque you feel like you are on a roller coaster.
The turbo models have a different suspension setup. As a result they feel more floaty as if they’re gliding over the road. The other cars feel like they’re more hunkered down and perhaps more direct as a result.
I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
arcamalpha said:
The turbo models have a different suspension setup. As a result they feel more floaty as if they’re gliding over the road. The other cars feel like they’re more hunkered down and perhaps more direct as a result.
I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
That's really interesting - any idea why they do it? The Turbo is meant to be more of a 'hardcore' model so I would have thought they'd want it less floaty.I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
controlz said:
arcamalpha said:
The turbo models have a different suspension setup. As a result they feel more floaty as if they’re gliding over the road. The other cars feel like they’re more hunkered down and perhaps more direct as a result.
I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
That's really interesting - any idea why they do it? The Turbo is meant to be more of a 'hardcore' model so I would have thought they'd want it less floaty.I haven’t tried but it might be possible to change the suspension setup of the turbo to match a carrera although the ride height might be harder to change.
I think there are 2 routes through this:
1. Buy a turbo and sharpen it up with aftermarket suspension (Bilstein, KW) and exhaust.
2. Buy a Carrera and tune in up to turbo power which also give you the option of manual.
I went route 2, 991.2 Carrera T now running 9e 625PS with manual box, Kline exhaust etc.
Or cheque book open, buy 991 turbo/s and take it to 9e for the full works
1. Buy a turbo and sharpen it up with aftermarket suspension (Bilstein, KW) and exhaust.
2. Buy a Carrera and tune in up to turbo power which also give you the option of manual.
I went route 2, 991.2 Carrera T now running 9e 625PS with manual box, Kline exhaust etc.
Or cheque book open, buy 991 turbo/s and take it to 9e for the full works
GT3ZZZ said:
I think there are 2 routes through this:
1. Buy a turbo and sharpen it up with aftermarket suspension (Bilstein, KW) and exhaust.
2. Buy a Carrera and tune in up to turbo power which also give you the option of manual.
I went route 2, 991.2 Carrera T now running 9e 625PS with manual box, Kline exhaust etc.
Or cheque book open, buy 991 turbo/s and take it to 9e for the full works
Nuts power on a base Carerra, I guess Porsche thought people are too afraid of falling out of their 'incredible' warranty scheme to put a bit of software on their car to take it up to Turbo S power1. Buy a turbo and sharpen it up with aftermarket suspension (Bilstein, KW) and exhaust.
2. Buy a Carrera and tune in up to turbo power which also give you the option of manual.
I went route 2, 991.2 Carrera T now running 9e 625PS with manual box, Kline exhaust etc.
Or cheque book open, buy 991 turbo/s and take it to 9e for the full works
Edited by jakesmith on Friday 29th November 21:47
Never owned a Turbo....I think for every owner that says they’re the ultimately daily there’s also an owner that says they find the Turbo too competent/too fast and perhaps a bit “boring” as a result.
When you look at how fast the base 992 Carrera/S is now and presumably the GTS will be a step on from there you have to wonder when enough if enough. When with the 997 say the GTS was a 4.5 0-60 car there was plenty of room for a turbo....now with 992 a Turbo will be a sub 3 secs 0-60 car....where can you use that ?
For me a car gets exciting when you feel like your in say the last 25% of it’s performance/grip abilities. Not sure you can do that with a Turbo.
When you look at how fast the base 992 Carrera/S is now and presumably the GTS will be a step on from there you have to wonder when enough if enough. When with the 997 say the GTS was a 4.5 0-60 car there was plenty of room for a turbo....now with 992 a Turbo will be a sub 3 secs 0-60 car....where can you use that ?
For me a car gets exciting when you feel like your in say the last 25% of it’s performance/grip abilities. Not sure you can do that with a Turbo.
I had a 991.1 Turbo, then a 991.2 GT3 and now have a 991.2 4wd GTS. The GTS is by far the sportier car compared to the Turbo and more usable than the GT3. Surprising sweet spot in the range. I've thought about another Turbo but aren't convinced it won't be a step backwards as a drivers car though the Turbos mile crunching all weather all road fuss free abilities are staggering.
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