Discussion
Twinfan said:
I think if you put an engine claim in after a back box change you might be on a sticky wicket...
Yes and if you removed the GPF you are technically making the car not road legal as there was legislation brought in a couple of years ago...lots of people removed DPF’s due to issues with them. It depends if you're talking factory warranty in the first three years, warranty extension etc:
Factory warranty - part changed must have caused the fault. A change in back box could damage an engine due to pressure differences?
111-point check - you'll fail the check and can't take out the extended warranty unless you re-fit the original exhaust.
Extended warranty claim - it will depend on the exact warranty wording, but any non-standard part may invalidate the entire warranty i.e. it doesn't have to be linked to the failed part if the wording states any mods full stop
Factory warranty - part changed must have caused the fault. A change in back box could damage an engine due to pressure differences?
111-point check - you'll fail the check and can't take out the extended warranty unless you re-fit the original exhaust.
Extended warranty claim - it will depend on the exact warranty wording, but any non-standard part may invalidate the entire warranty i.e. it doesn't have to be linked to the failed part if the wording states any mods full stop
hunter 66 said:
Strange , non Porsche brake Discs ( a consumable like tyres and Fuel ), no warrantee , change exhaust and back pressure issues , no problem
Manufacturer warranty vs extended I think you are comparing where you cannot extend without oem parts. The original new car warranty holds as long as they can't prove the new part caused a failure. Let's face it if anyone blows an engine on a new-ish car after changing the back box he's going to have the original fitted before sending it to the OPC.... why not box up the whole car and not drive it :-)
People are taking off PCCB and putting them in a box
taking off wheels and putting them in a box
paying £5k for PPF
FFS buy it drive it mod it.
the MAG wheels make the WP car, it's the biggest change to how they drive imo. I am gussing as not driven back to back on this model, but it's always been wheels which make the difference.
If you are scared of braking them you have more chance of cracking the carbon ARB and cracking the lightweight glass if you hit a pit hole !!!!
it was a cheap option new the Mag wheels, so daft not to have them and reep the rewards PCCB along with the mag's will give you.
People are taking off PCCB and putting them in a box
taking off wheels and putting them in a box
paying £5k for PPF
FFS buy it drive it mod it.
the MAG wheels make the WP car, it's the biggest change to how they drive imo. I am gussing as not driven back to back on this model, but it's always been wheels which make the difference.
If you are scared of braking them you have more chance of cracking the carbon ARB and cracking the lightweight glass if you hit a pit hole !!!!
it was a cheap option new the Mag wheels, so daft not to have them and reep the rewards PCCB along with the mag's will give you.
isaldiri said:
Let's face it if anyone blows an engine on a new-ish car after changing the back box he's going to have the original fitted before sending it to the OPC....
If they can, of course they will. It's not 'right' though is it?Also, can Porsche tell what you've done via ECU readings?
both the grey and silver cars look fabulous in my opinion - the car looks so extreme anyway that i prefer the more subdued hues. actually i can't stop looking at that slate grey car for sale at Romans, hope it's sells soon.
can understand why people might not prefer the worry of looking after the mags. having said that i am happy to run my 964 RS on it's original mags, and they are 28 years old ! mind you i wouldn't run them on the track, that's for sure.
can understand why people might not prefer the worry of looking after the mags. having said that i am happy to run my 964 RS on it's original mags, and they are 28 years old ! mind you i wouldn't run them on the track, that's for sure.
Porsche911R said:
the MAG wheels make the WP car, it's the biggest change to how they drive imo. I am gussing as not driven back to back on this model, but it's always been wheels which make the difference.
If you are scared of braking them you have more chance of cracking the carbon ARB and cracking the lightweight glass if you hit a pit hole !!!!
it was a cheap option new the Mag wheels, so daft not to have them and reep the rewards PCCB along with the mag's will give you.
The biggest really change for the WP is the Mag wheels which are extra option on top of WP anyway right?If you are scared of braking them you have more chance of cracking the carbon ARB and cracking the lightweight glass if you hit a pit hole !!!!
it was a cheap option new the Mag wheels, so daft not to have them and reep the rewards PCCB along with the mag's will give you.
To make the WP what it's really supposed to be (weight saving) you need the mag wheels.
Then we have concerns about making the car louder again... there was no issue with the original 991.2 GT3 RS, much less risk in installing an aftermarket exhaust solution as no GPF.
These were my reasons for questioning... could easily have kept the 991.2 GT3 RS and added BBS WEC wheels for pretty much the same drive as a WP with OEM Mag and no issues with sound.
I have seen some of the reports about the Carbon fibre ARBs breaking... but easily replaced under warranty anyway.
At the end of the day, you have enjoyed your 991.2 GT3 RS for 8-9000K miles, I do see the car at many events.
If you got a great part-ex on the 991.2, and its not much cost difference or you can afford it, whatever, then why not do it... your OPC DP is happy, you're happy, and it bumps you up for the allocation on the next GT 911. The wheel keeps turning.
Fair play... enjoy it....
isaldiri said:
TDT said:
I have seen some of the reports about the Carbon fibre ARBs breaking... but easily replaced under warranty anyway..
Wouldn't that be a wear and tear item than a warranty job? They went to check under the car for something else and noticed it... took it in - it got sorted, and they state..under warranty.
Twinfan said:
It depends if you're talking factory warranty in the first three years, warranty extension etc:
Factory warranty - part changed must have caused the fault. A change in back box could damage an engine due to pressure differences?
111-point check - you'll fail the check and can't take out the extended warranty unless you re-fit the original exhaust.
Extended warranty claim - it will depend on the exact warranty wording, but any non-standard part may invalidate the entire warranty i.e. it doesn't have to be linked to the failed part if the wording states any mods full stop
A total impossibility of straight piped back box causing any engine problems or back pressure.Factory warranty - part changed must have caused the fault. A change in back box could damage an engine due to pressure differences?
111-point check - you'll fail the check and can't take out the extended warranty unless you re-fit the original exhaust.
Extended warranty claim - it will depend on the exact warranty wording, but any non-standard part may invalidate the entire warranty i.e. it doesn't have to be linked to the failed part if the wording states any mods full stop
TDT said:
I would have thought so - but i have seen on RL where someone had Carbon ARB/drop link replaced under warranty. It snapped off at the connecting link.
They went to check under the car for something else and noticed it... took it in - it got sorted, and they state..under warranty.
Nice to get some goodwill from the dealership then They went to check under the car for something else and noticed it... took it in - it got sorted, and they state..under warranty.
if it happens more often it'll be interesting to see if that continues being a warranty item...Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff