VIN discrepancy 3.2 Carrera

VIN discrepancy 3.2 Carrera

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SRT Hellcat

7,032 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Congratulations. Lovely looking car. Enjoy smile

Koln-RS

3,865 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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That looks super-sweet.

I do think the 3.2 Carrera looks its best in narrow-body, Coupe, and without the rear spoiler.

G50 and a respected engine rebuild - has it been dyno’d?


Adam B

27,252 posts

254 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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If not impolite can I ask what the engine work cost, assuming it came with a nice box of receipts?

The no rust in the usual places, after this years/miles is that because it has been very well looked after, treated or is remedial action usually taken at some point?

Lovely looking car, nice colour and love the nonspoiler look, congratulations

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Lovely. Looks very 'straight' from the photos.

If I were you, and would be driving the car, I would put the 9J rears in the attic and find something else to put some decent tyres on. When I had 9J fuchs on the back of my SSE getting modern tyres in the correct size was awkward to say the least.

What do 3.2s normally have - 7J rear and 6J front?

Geneve

3,867 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Normally, 6” fronts with 205/55 16s and 7” rears with 225/50 16s.
In ‘89 they fitted 8” rears, but with the same size tyres.

Completely agree that a 3.2 would be ‘over-tyred’ on the 9”s - sapping power and worsening understeer.

But otherwise, lovely looking example - clean lines and nice colour.

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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marky911 said:
That looks ace. Ex Dr Mark’s off here.

I had it on a list to view last May but when I rang on the Friday before our Saturday viewing, I was told it had sold.
The salesman was very uninterested and didn’t even take my name incase it fell through.
It did fall through apparently, but I’d bought another GT3 by then, if not it would be mine now.

Lovely car and 1000 times better than the original subject of this thread.
Enjoy!

PS I must add the guy I spoke to at 911V wasn’t Tom. I’ve dealt with Tom before and he’s a gent.
I still rate 911V in my top 3 Porsche dealers but the guy I spoke to that day just didn’t seem interested. Maybe my Geordie accent, or maybe he was just having a bad day. Either way he couldn’t get me off the phone quick enough which I thought a bit odd, given I had £60k burning a hole in my pocket.
It was Tom I did the deal with and as ever he was honest and straightforward, so much so that I bought it unseen on the strength of his opinion of the car and my needs. Proof of the pudding and all that - won't see it until he delivers it in a week's time!

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Koln-RS said:
G50 and a respected engine rebuild - has it been dyno’d?
Not as far as I know. Would expect it to be holding up well with only 3000 miles since a full rebuild. 275bhp would be nice.

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Thank you, all, for your kind and encouraging words. In answer to the question about the cost of the rebuild I haven't seen the invoice (though I know one exists), but it's apparently slightly complicated in that the rebuild was done for Dr Mark as part of the purchase price of the car. Tom thought the cost was about £12k.

Tyres is an interesting point. There's 6mm of tread but the tyres date from 2006 so Tom's putting new ones on. Can't get Conti Sport Contacts apparently so going for Michelin Sport Exaltos. Not heard of Exaltos to be honest but seem to get reasonable reviews.

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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There is no worse tyre in the world than the P6000.

Other than a 14 year old P6000.

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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The problem with the 9J is that it should have 245/45s on it, and they don't make anything in that size anymore.

Whereas as Geneve said you can get modern Conti 5s or even 6s in 205/55 and 225/50.

Hang the 9s on the wall, or sell them for flippin' great wodges of cash.

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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.... and the 9Js (and the 8J? 7J? fronts) should have metal supports on the tyre valves, if the tyre valves are rubber. I don't know what speed they thought it would be an issue, but I can't see the metal supports on the 911V photos?

ETA my old fronts



Edited by Orangecurry on Thursday 9th July 23:02

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Thats so much nicer than the one you were going to buy from WC. No comparison actually. Looks like she's in perfect condition to boot. Whoever owned her before the cars a credit to them.

Geneve

3,867 posts

219 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Wheel/tyre wise IMO it will be its nicest on 6s/7s with contemporary 205/50s and 225/55s.

These should be a premium matching brand but not necessarily N spec. On these cars it makes no real difference. I wouldn’t go for the ‘historic look’ as I’d prefer the best performance.

If your car does produce 275bhp, then you could go wider at the back, but no more than 8s.

Yours looks like. Sport Equipment with the rear spoiler removed - usually done with a new boot lid, so the original may be around somewhere.

There is an argument that the front rubber lip spoiler should also be removed, but I honestly believe it makes no difference and may actually be beneficial.

Great cars, the little G50 3.2s, if you can find a really good one, and really suited to U.K. A and B roads

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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It has 6” fronts with 205/55 16s and 8” rears with 225/50 16s. Personally I prefer performance over period correct, if nothing else to help cover up my ineptitude behind the wheel of a non-nannying 911. Choice is a little limiting and there is in any case a shortage of supply. I wanted Michelin Pilot Sport 4 but couldn't get the rear set so have had to go for Exaltos. No idea how good they are - better than the brittle old Pirellis that were on there I should hope.

It is indeed a sport model with the rear spoiler removed. Don't think the old whale tail is available, but swapping to the plain deck would have been one of my first jobs anyway. It has the original spec sport shocks (don't know if they are the ones supplied from new) and I'm thInking of getting CoG to refresh the lot - Bilstein/KW shocks, bushes, turbo torsion bar, drop links and whatnot. I know it's good to be original but I do like to press on when I can and modern rubber and some decent suspension makes quite a difference, certainly did with my 964.

Oh and I've ordered a Momo Prototipo, which will make every drive a workout but will look nice.

I'm looking forward to it. Plus I drive the T like a tit - far too fast for safety on the largely empty roads of Herefordshire and Radnorshire where I live. Its strong (possible only) suit is to go very fast securely. Other than that there isn't much of a sense of occasion driving it. As I near 60 I am beginning to feel it's not quite seemly to be driving a modern Porsche like a hooligan and a 31 year old 911 will be more 'wafty'. I shall open the sunroof, shove my elbow out of the window and pootle to Hay Bluff for the view. That's the idea anyway. Wait though...how about a LSD and some throttle bodies?


Edited by Lungauer on Friday 10th July 12:54

Orangecurry

7,428 posts

206 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Lungauer said:
It has 6” fronts with 205/55 16s and 8” rears with 225/50 16s. Personally I prefer performance over period correct, if nothing else to help cover up my ineptitude behind the wheel of a non-nannying 911. Choice is a little limiting and there is in any case a shortage of supply. I wanted Michelin Pilot Sport 4 but couldn't get the rear set so have had to go for Exaltos. No idea how good they are - better than the brittle old Pirellis that were on there I should hope.
All good - it was the 911V description of 'Turbo-dish Fuch alloys' that made me assume 9J.... clearly a poor assumption.

I'd have gone for Conti Premium Contact 6, as I too prefer P over P.

But as you say, you are going to be driving at 6/10ths hehe

Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 10th July 20:03

Discombobulate

4,846 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I know the car - and Mark - very well. Mark bought it off Nick Fulljames (it was his car). While with Nick it had a full engine rebuild, including new barrels and pistons, new clutch, heater boxes etc. Gearbox was stripped and checked too. And Nick is one of the best. It has 8s - as original for that year - not 9s on the back.
Mark had a used engine cover from another non-sport car to get rid of the spoiler - the original comes with the car (or should do). It had a full respray with Nick and has had the kidney bowls done at some stage. It also had inner wings when with 911 Virgin for the first time. He also swapped the driver and passenger set around due to wear so the control may still be on the wrong side of the seat.

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Discombobulate said:
I know the car - and Mark - very well. Mark bought it off Nick Fulljames (it was his car). While with Nick it had a full engine rebuild, including new barrels and pistons, new clutch, heater boxes etc. Gearbox was stripped and checked too. And Nick is one of the best. It has 8s - as original for that year - not 9s on the back.
Mark had a used engine cover from another non-sport car to get rid of the spoiler - the original comes with the car (or should do). It had a full respray with Nick and has had the kidney bowls done at some stage. It also had inner wings when with 911 Virgin for the first time. He also swapped the driver and passenger set around due to wear so the control may still be on the wrong side of the seat.
Very useful information, thank you Discombobulate. I'll enquire of 911V about the original engine cover though it has not been mentioned in negotiations. I might get in touch with Nick Fulljames so that he can give me the full SP, and possibly some ideas on a tweak or two. Please let Mark know that it shall be pampered, cherished and loved.

Edited to add that the car will be back in what, I believe, was Dr Mark's birth county.

Edited by Lungauer on Saturday 11th July 09:30

Discombobulate

4,846 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Lungauer said:
Very useful information, thank you Discombobulate. I'll enquire of 911V about the original engine cover though it has not been mentioned in negotiations. I might get in touch with Nick Fulljames so that he can give me the full SP, and possibly some ideas on a tweak or two. Please let Mark know that it shall be pampered, cherished and loved.

Edited to add that the car will be back in what, I believe, was Dr Mark's birth county.

Edited by Lungauer on Saturday 11th July 09:30
Herefordshire? He lives in Glos now. Careful he might nick it back wink

Lungauer

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295 posts

152 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Discombobulate said:
Herefordshire? He lives in Glos now. Careful he might nick it back wink
Indeed. Not far away.