992 GT3 - Will they be Obtainable?
Discussion
:av185 said:
Helmet gulf blue in real life! I've asked OPC if these are available. Lets see I'll have one if they are for sure. It will be interesting as I love the shape of the standard C2S so would love a touring. Oak met green for me with weiss gold wheels 
porkribs17 said:
Who thinks the new GT3 allocations be fairly obtainable (or do we get sucked into the usual dealer monkey business) this time around with an abysmal economic outlook ?
Depends how many they will make for the UK. Edited by porkribs17 on Friday 4th December 08:48
It's not only the economy outlook, but the market is becoming more and more saturated too, yet competition is rising.
blz06 said:
porkribs17 said:
Who thinks the new GT3 allocations be fairly obtainable (or do we get sucked into the usual dealer monkey business) this time around with an abysmal economic outlook ?
Depends how many they will make for the UK. Edited by porkribs17 on Friday 4th December 08:48
It's not only the economy outlook, but the market is becoming more and more saturated too, yet competition is rising.
The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
porkribs17 said:
Who thinks the new GT3 allocations be fairly obtainable (or do we get sucked into the usual dealer monkey business) this time around with an abysmal economic outlook ?
Given that Porsche makes a lot less profit on a UK GT car than on a ROE car and they want the marketing effect of limited production / candy for the 4-door car buyers, I suspect it will be rather difficult even accounting for the current economic downturn etc Edited by porkribs17 on Friday 4th December 08:48
av185 said:
Won't make a blind bit of difference even if P make a 1000 for the UK which is unlikely. They will have no problem selling them all.
The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
Of course I didn't imply they will have problem selling all of them, I was just saying relatively it might not be as hard as it used to be to get one unless you want one of the very firsts.The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
The high overs will happen at the beginning, but it's not representitive.
av185 said:
Won't make a blind bit of difference even if P make a 1000 for the UK which is unlikely. They will have no problem selling them all.
The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
People must be brain dead if they pay anywhere near that. What was the first flipped 991.2s fetching which was a big step up from the 991.1. A bit more tech in the 992, sales ploy its now got double-wishbone [why have they not used it before]and 50 per cent more downforce that you will only notice on the Autobahn. The same engine as the 991.2 with only 10hp more, was expecting at least 25-50 more.The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
There will be a deal struck in the final hours on Brexit, fishing will make sure of that, so no extra tax to pay.
av185 said:
First flipped good spec ceramic braked CS cars went for c£185k.
Can understand that as it was advertised as a Cup developed engine, 992 is not offering a performance upgrade and is using the same engine. I think production will be ramped up as P must have suffered like every other manufacturer.Think you will see a 120 price tag.The 993 GT3 will headline with around 520PS so approximately 20PS more than 991.2 with 6 throttle bodies and no doubt a small massage of the torque curve for a bit more lower down. In old school that is 513bhp vs 493bhp (991.2 GT3)
The +10bhp comment as I understood was in relation to the last of the 991.2 GT3 engine variant (speedster = 510PS).
Not sure why anyone was expecting a different outcome?
The capacity remains at 4.0L for the GT3 (I suspect 4.2L for the RS).
Given the maximum HP/L that a naturally aspirated mainstream production sports car has produced in the last 20 years is approx. 134 bhp/L (Ferrari 458 Speciale?) and that Porsche have typically stayed a little more conservatives for reliability in the GT3/RS at 128-130 bhp/L for their products then the result is within expectation...
The +10bhp comment as I understood was in relation to the last of the 991.2 GT3 engine variant (speedster = 510PS).
Not sure why anyone was expecting a different outcome?
The capacity remains at 4.0L for the GT3 (I suspect 4.2L for the RS).
Given the maximum HP/L that a naturally aspirated mainstream production sports car has produced in the last 20 years is approx. 134 bhp/L (Ferrari 458 Speciale?) and that Porsche have typically stayed a little more conservatives for reliability in the GT3/RS at 128-130 bhp/L for their products then the result is within expectation...
Macca993 said:
The 993 GT3 will headline with around 520PS so approximately 20PS more than 991.2 with 6 throttle bodies and no doubt a small massage of the torque curve for a bit more lower down. In old school that is 513bhp vs 493bhp (991.2 GT3)
The +10bhp comment as I understood was in relation to the last of the 991.2 GT3 engine variant (speedster = 510PS).
Not sure why anyone was expecting a different outcome?
The capacity remains at 4.0L for the GT3 (I suspect 4.2L for the RS).
Given the maximum HP/L that a naturally aspirated mainstream production sports car has produced in the last 20 years is approx. 134 bhp/L (Ferrari 458 Speciale?) and that Porsche have typically stayed a little more conservatives for reliability in the GT3/RS at 128-130 bhp/L for their products then the result is within expectation...
Hey chap - hope you are well.The +10bhp comment as I understood was in relation to the last of the 991.2 GT3 engine variant (speedster = 510PS).
Not sure why anyone was expecting a different outcome?
The capacity remains at 4.0L for the GT3 (I suspect 4.2L for the RS).
Given the maximum HP/L that a naturally aspirated mainstream production sports car has produced in the last 20 years is approx. 134 bhp/L (Ferrari 458 Speciale?) and that Porsche have typically stayed a little more conservatives for reliability in the GT3/RS at 128-130 bhp/L for their products then the result is within expectation...
On paper each iteration never looks much different, however in my experience the move always feels more than the spec sheet.
Not sure I like the new one visually - the rear end looks a mess to me - however in the metal it may work much better than the “AP skirt lift”
Either way, I certainly will not be chasing one - very happy with my 991.2 manual. If however my OPC offer me one at list, no strings attached then it will be given some thought - but that’s highly unlikely.
Keep safe and well
blz06 said:
av185 said:
Won't make a blind bit of difference even if P make a 1000 for the UK which is unlikely. They will have no problem selling them all.
The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
Of course I didn't imply they will have problem selling all of them, I was just saying relatively it might not be as hard as it used to be to get one unless you want one of the very firsts.The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
The high overs will happen at the beginning, but it's not representitive.
JulierPass said:
blz06 said:
av185 said:
Won't make a blind bit of difference even if P make a 1000 for the UK which is unlikely. They will have no problem selling them all.
The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
Of course I didn't imply they will have problem selling all of them, I was just saying relatively it might not be as hard as it used to be to get one unless you want one of the very firsts.The first flipped cars will be £225k guaranteed.
The high overs will happen at the beginning, but it's not representitive.
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