997.1 gt3 cs on collecting cars
Discussion
EvoSid said:
So from reading this thread, the 997 GT3 only really makes sense if you track it. Is there any GT3 that is ok just for spirited road use ? Or would a GTS be the better compromise. I just love the looks of the GT3 cars and they seem to deprecate slightly less than a regular 911, but not much use if you only intend to us either as a road car
I have a 997.2 GT3 and I am looking forward to replicating this photo later this summer.
This chap, I don’t know what became of him, seems to rate them as a road car.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=45DWdH20Hmg
D.no said:
Digga said:
Well the car is...
Might try to sneak in another Xbox practice session. Never driven the new GP circuit.
I last did Silverstone on the 18th of June 2008. Blimey. Seems like yesterday, until I actually try to remember where a full lap goes!Might try to sneak in another Xbox practice session. Never driven the new GP circuit.
julesGB said:
jeremyc said:
LemonTart said:
You'll need a friend in an orange Lamborghini to be ahead of you on the road. 
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Strange market and times, spoke with my OPC yesterday and they said they’re struggling to get used stock as people are sticking with their cars and many not buying new. They have bought very little used stock during lock down due to staff bring furloughed and are treading carefully.
Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Strange market and times, spoke with my OPC yesterday and they said they’re struggling to get used stock as people are sticking with their cars and many not buying new. They have bought very little used stock during lock down due to staff bring furloughed and are treading carefully.
GT4RS said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Tricky, if you want a good car you have to pay, always been the case, it’s the best car for sale atm so top money.Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
You can not compare a tatty 13 year old car with 5 services to a well looked after car with 10 services and 14k less miles !
The grey car needed £££ and will never recover the provenance of a tier one car.
Good cars always sell it's just a slow market for the .1's
The two cars are chalk and cheese, I would pay the extra for the better car, the other cars at more money are not as good and I would not have even bid on the grey cc one.
I’d have had the GT Silver CS over the red one every day..... I’m not sure it was tatty ? Looked OK to me, the red ones trying too hard to be something that it isn’t, gold wheels look ok when they’re the correct colour, WS gold is a lot less harmful on the eyes, and the black decals look too much like an RE which it isn’t ?
It’s a nice car, and baring in mind they’re services every 2 years it should have only had 6 stamps not 10 ?
I could forgive a missed service baring in mind he said it had been done, the problem that owner had was getting it in somewhere to be serviced, sell it now or wait 6 weeks for a slot...... looking at two cars in there it doesn’t look like he’s hard up for £600 quid to service a 911 that’s done 3k between stamps in the book.
From what I’m seeing AND I’m no expert...... the cars at the top end are coming down but the cars at the bottom are stabilising and Even going up ? Demand is there for the right car it just seems that with the newer stuff and the manuals in the Touring Cars That some of the GT cars have lost a bit of their appeal to those at least who never intend tracking their cars.
997’s are being snapped up at the minute, 2nd hand dealers are trumping private buyers to get their hands on the right cars. Yet the GT Silver car went for cheap ish money, makes the £80k cars look ridiculous, despite them having 10 stamps in the book. That red one struggle to get much above £70 now this has sold for a fair bit less.
It’s a nice car, and baring in mind they’re services every 2 years it should have only had 6 stamps not 10 ?
I could forgive a missed service baring in mind he said it had been done, the problem that owner had was getting it in somewhere to be serviced, sell it now or wait 6 weeks for a slot...... looking at two cars in there it doesn’t look like he’s hard up for £600 quid to service a 911 that’s done 3k between stamps in the book.
From what I’m seeing AND I’m no expert...... the cars at the top end are coming down but the cars at the bottom are stabilising and Even going up ? Demand is there for the right car it just seems that with the newer stuff and the manuals in the Touring Cars That some of the GT cars have lost a bit of their appeal to those at least who never intend tracking their cars.
997’s are being snapped up at the minute, 2nd hand dealers are trumping private buyers to get their hands on the right cars. Yet the GT Silver car went for cheap ish money, makes the £80k cars look ridiculous, despite them having 10 stamps in the book. That red one struggle to get much above £70 now this has sold for a fair bit less.
Edited by ArchiesDad on Saturday 4th July 10:20
I’d have had the GT Silver CS over the red one every day..... I’m not sure it was tatty ? Looked OK to me, the red ones trying too hard to be something that it isn’t, gold wheels look ok when they’re the correct colour, WS gold is a lot less harmful on the eyes, and the black decals look too much like an RS which it isn’t ?
It’s a nice car, and baring in mind they’re serviced every 2 years it should have only had 6 stamps not 10 ?
I could forgive a missed service baring in mind he said it had been done in house with bills to prove, the problem that owner had was getting it in somewhere to be serviced over the past 3 months, sell it now or wait 6 weeks for a slot For servicing...... looking at two cars in there it doesn’t look like he’s hard up for £600 quid to service a 911 that’s done 3k between stamps in the book.
From what I’m seeing AND I’m no expert...... the cars at the top end are coming down but the cars at the bottom are stabilising and Even going up ? Demand is there for the right car and your right the right car is always worth that bit more, it’s just the markets changing, it just seems that with the newer stuff and the manuals in the Touring Cars That some of the GT cars have lost a bit of their appeal to those at least who never intend tracking their cars.
997’s are being snapped up at the minute, 2nd hand dealers are trumping private buyers to get their hands on the right cars. Yet the GT Silver car went for cheap ish money, makes the £80k cars look ridiculous, despite them having 10 stamps in the book. That red one will struggle to get much above £70 now this has sold for a fair bit less. Which is hard when your driving something round for 5 years thinking your loosing no money then all of a sudden the day you come to sell it the market has changed.
It’s a nice car, and baring in mind they’re serviced every 2 years it should have only had 6 stamps not 10 ?
I could forgive a missed service baring in mind he said it had been done in house with bills to prove, the problem that owner had was getting it in somewhere to be serviced over the past 3 months, sell it now or wait 6 weeks for a slot For servicing...... looking at two cars in there it doesn’t look like he’s hard up for £600 quid to service a 911 that’s done 3k between stamps in the book.
From what I’m seeing AND I’m no expert...... the cars at the top end are coming down but the cars at the bottom are stabilising and Even going up ? Demand is there for the right car and your right the right car is always worth that bit more, it’s just the markets changing, it just seems that with the newer stuff and the manuals in the Touring Cars That some of the GT cars have lost a bit of their appeal to those at least who never intend tracking their cars.
997’s are being snapped up at the minute, 2nd hand dealers are trumping private buyers to get their hands on the right cars. Yet the GT Silver car went for cheap ish money, makes the £80k cars look ridiculous, despite them having 10 stamps in the book. That red one will struggle to get much above £70 now this has sold for a fair bit less. Which is hard when your driving something round for 5 years thinking your loosing no money then all of a sudden the day you come to sell it the market has changed.
Edited by ArchiesDad on Saturday 4th July 10:20
Edited by ArchiesDad on Saturday 4th July 10:26
Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Tricky, if you want a good car you have to pay, always been the case, it’s the best car for sale atm so top money.Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
You can not compare a tatty 13 year old car with 5 services to a well looked after car with 10 services and 14k less miles !
The grey car needed £££ and will never recover the provenance of a tier one car.
Good cars always sell it's just a slow market for the .1's
The two cars are chalk and cheese, I would pay the extra for the better car, the other cars at more money are not as good and I would not have even bid on the grey cc one.
The car we are talking about is a private sale so no purchase protection and has been tarted up. Only best original cars make the top money and this one isn’t original anymore due to stickers and painted wheels.
It needs to priced to reflect a private sale with no warranty and the fact that it’s been tarted up. They are asking dealer sticker prices which they aren’t selling at on the forecourts, the silver car has proved this.
My guess is it will get taken back of the market once the advert runs out.
The way I see the market it should have the stickers taken off, wheels put back to original and would need to be priced around 65k for it to sell privately. This car is very very similar to the Ashgoods car which was immaculate, massive service history, nearly two years Porsche warranty and being sold by a dealer at a sticker price of 69k.
GT4RS said:
I have to disagree, you can get a full service history bucket seat 997.2 gen 2 for very similar money from a dealer with a years warranty or two if from Porsche.
Gen 2 cars are £95k min ! You call a car with a sticker tarted up lol come on.
Wheels would be £400 !!
Private vs retail makes no odds, I have always sold my GT3, Cayman r at retail money it makes no odd you either want the best car or not why price it cheaper , yes it takes a bit longer, but a real buyer will pay , dealers end up with the s
tters spec cars which don’t sell private I find on older cars.GT4RS said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Strange market and times, spoke with my OPC yesterday and they said they’re struggling to get used stock as people are sticking with their cars and many not buying new. They have bought very little used stock during lock down due to staff bring furloughed and are treading carefully.
I know this car and its owner as he lives nearby and I'm a fellow 997.1 GT3 owner. It's extremely pampered and looked after. A couple of things that might be of interest on the wheels/stickers.Owners slashed a couple of grand off this private sale so clearly little interest at 80k. Still far to pricey considering the last car to sell of similar spec / mileage was good £15k cheaper.
May stand more of chance if them stickers were removed and the wheels put back to the original colour.
Strange market and times, spoke with my OPC yesterday and they said they’re struggling to get used stock as people are sticking with their cars and many not buying new. They have bought very little used stock during lock down due to staff bring furloughed and are treading carefully.
If you want to see how anal the owner is with stickers, this is a video he posted about decals he's installed to a 996 project car he's purchased - https://youtu.be/vIm7ymiZvsE Stickers are obviously easy to remove and he'd be able to do. TBH, if I bought it I'd remove them as personal preference.
The wheels looked like they'd been refurbished by the OPC before he bought the car (or recently done). Again because he's a perfectionist he didn't think they were done perfectly - they looked good to me! Anyway he sent them off for a factory finish full refurb to to the Porsche paint code for the gold. He sent them off miles away from where he lives after extensive research on where the best place to get them refurbed would be.
You won't find a car that's looked after better. I'd buy it if I didn't already have one. I can send a link of this thread to the owner if anyone has questions on the car.
Edited by ispcarsurvey on Saturday 4th July 12:49
ispcarsurvey said:
I know this car and its owner as he lives nearby and I'm a fellow 997.1 GT3 owner. It's extremely pampered and looked after. A couple of things that might be of interest on the wheels/stickers.
If you want to see how anal the owner is with stickers, this is a video he posted about decals he's installed to a 996 project car he's purchased - https://youtu.be/vIm7ymiZvsE Stickers are obviously easy to remove and he'd be able to do. TBH, if I bought it I'd remove them as personal preference.
The wheels looked like they'd been refurbished by the OPC before he bought the car (or recently done). Again because he's a perfectionist he didn't think they were done perfectly - they looked good to me! Anyway he sent them off for a factory finish full refurb to to the Porsche paint code for the gold. He sent them off miles away from where he lives after extensive research on where the best place to get them refurbed would be.
You won't find a car that's looked after better. I'd buy it if I didn't already have one. I can send a link of this thread to the owner if anyone has questions on the car.
It clear to see it's totally mint, people on here don’t understand a tier one cars vs tatty cars.If you want to see how anal the owner is with stickers, this is a video he posted about decals he's installed to a 996 project car he's purchased - https://youtu.be/vIm7ymiZvsE Stickers are obviously easy to remove and he'd be able to do. TBH, if I bought it I'd remove them as personal preference.
The wheels looked like they'd been refurbished by the OPC before he bought the car (or recently done). Again because he's a perfectionist he didn't think they were done perfectly - they looked good to me! Anyway he sent them off for a factory finish full refurb to to the Porsche paint code for the gold. He sent them off miles away from where he lives after extensive research on where the best place to get them refurbed would be.
You won't find a car that's looked after better. I'd buy it if I didn't already have one. I can send a link of this thread to the owner if anyone has questions on the car.
Edited by ispcarsurvey on Saturday 4th July 12:49
I would buy it this week if I could magic 2 of my car sales at a click of a finger, happy to pay £76.5k for it over the silver car at £67k.
The 2 cars don’t compare.
Hi chaps, the Red GT3 you see for private sale is my car. I'm happy to take any question you might have on it. I'm a Porsche enthusiast at the perfectionist/nerdy end of the scale and Porsche is my passion.
I'm in my third year of ownership and it is a lovely, lovely car - my 6th Porsche. The reason it is for sale is an opportunity to move house for the benefit of my family. I'm lucky to own a few other cars so all is not lost and I am more than happy to put my family first.
Some of you will appreciate the provenance and solid maintenance schedules of a car like this, as do I. I'm the forth owner of the car and in contact with all three prior owners - I contacted all the prior owners to discus the car before i purchased it and verify all the records and history of this GT3 - 3 very nice gentlemen owners.
I bought the car from Porsche Colchester after a thorough inspection and checking all of the diagnostics and rev-ranges with my own Durametric. It has a complete history file of all records and a copy of it's magazine feature.
There are certainly cheaper cars out there, equally those more expensive, being a serial owner i can testify the value in these cars should be viewed by how they are maintained and treated rather than the sticker price alone, it's also the best way to avoid a nasty maintenance shock!
Again I'm happy to answer questions so feel free to ask.
I'm in my third year of ownership and it is a lovely, lovely car - my 6th Porsche. The reason it is for sale is an opportunity to move house for the benefit of my family. I'm lucky to own a few other cars so all is not lost and I am more than happy to put my family first.
Some of you will appreciate the provenance and solid maintenance schedules of a car like this, as do I. I'm the forth owner of the car and in contact with all three prior owners - I contacted all the prior owners to discus the car before i purchased it and verify all the records and history of this GT3 - 3 very nice gentlemen owners.
I bought the car from Porsche Colchester after a thorough inspection and checking all of the diagnostics and rev-ranges with my own Durametric. It has a complete history file of all records and a copy of it's magazine feature.
There are certainly cheaper cars out there, equally those more expensive, being a serial owner i can testify the value in these cars should be viewed by how they are maintained and treated rather than the sticker price alone, it's also the best way to avoid a nasty maintenance shock!
Again I'm happy to answer questions so feel free to ask.
Porsche911R said:
It clear to see it's totally mint, people on here don’t understand a tier one cars vs tatty cars.
I would buy it this week if I could magic 2 of my car sales at a click of a finger, happy to pay £76.5k for it over the silver car at £67k.
The 2 cars don’t compare.
I don’t know how you can call the GT Silver car I bought as tatty, you haven’t seen the car close up. The previous owner has an outstanding car collection, looked after by the best in the business. As explained in the CC write up; the car was off the road for 18months, stored with Jordan’s Car Storage. I would buy it this week if I could magic 2 of my car sales at a click of a finger, happy to pay £76.5k for it over the silver car at £67k.
The 2 cars don’t compare.
Get a life and stop slagging off cars that don’t live up to your exacting standards.
That car is a stunner, i VERY VERY nearly bid on it myself and when i saw what it sold for i kicked myself "HARD"
There is a lot of slagging off of 997.1 going on at the minute, on other forums it has become common practice to absolutely HATE the gen.1....... in any guise, In fact only last week written off cars were being promoted as a better buy than a low miles low owner Gen.1.
996's suffer the same problems but are the Holy Grail of excellence, ALL the 996 owners on another form of media seem to know absolutely everything about anything 911 related. OH...... and manual cars are s
te..... they have to be Tip or PDK ! Because PDK cars are faster, As for Tier 1 cars, How many people do you know have an RS, GT car that keeps a tatty 911 ? I looked at the same pics as everyone else and some how came to the conclusion as you "The Buyer" that the car looked like a GT3 should look, The colour alone is stunning, CS Spec,
The shocking truth is...... Your car has lowered the price of other cars that have been driving round for 5 years thinking that they have lost NO Money, and like most things that we need to sell, when it comes to it you realise you believed your own Hype ?
Then there are the people who sell these things and there's NO WAY they want the price of their stock dipping, so the easiest thing to do is make out your car is tatty and Tier 3, No provenance.... Missing history, requires work, brakes, suspension, diff.....
Who buys a 12year old car wanting a warranty ? No one i know ? i'd buy new or nearly new.
You got that GT3 for good money, I'm not 100% sure i didnt know the previous owner ? was he Bald ? Cotswolds location ?
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