Any love for the 997 GTS?
Discussion
Koln-RS said:
Looks a bit ‘tarty’ to my tastes.
Some nice aspects, for sure, but makes me wonder why someone would carry out all that work on an original car.
Was it so significantly damaged at some point that the colour change and replacement parts justified the cost?
it's Ben Eastwick's car - he's on X and posts about it and his others, it's 160k+ Miles and he wanted to refresh and personalise it. Credit to him for the decision, his car, his money, his preferences and it's good to see something modern get a makeover like this imhoSome nice aspects, for sure, but makes me wonder why someone would carry out all that work on an original car.
Was it so significantly damaged at some point that the colour change and replacement parts justified the cost?
MC99 said:
Koln-RS said:
Looks a bit ‘tarty’ to my tastes.
Some nice aspects, for sure, but makes me wonder why someone would carry out all that work on an original car.
Was it so significantly damaged at some point that the colour change and replacement parts justified the cost?
it's Ben Eastwick's car - he's on X and posts about it and his others, it's 160k+ Miles and he wanted to refresh and personalise it. Credit to him for the decision, his car, his money, his preferences and it's good to see something modern get a makeover like this imhoSome nice aspects, for sure, but makes me wonder why someone would carry out all that work on an original car.
Was it so significantly damaged at some point that the colour change and replacement parts justified the cost?
As I said when the RPM Technik 997 CSR "Snakebite" was up for sale :
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/p...
if it had been based on a 997.2 S (or GTS) it would have made for the perfect 997 restomod :
Ditch the GTS centrelocks and fit the Snakebite HRE wheels, fit a ducktail and the CSR interior mods and it would make for a wonderful car
I know a good looking 997.2 carrera 4S (Special conversion) with all the gimmics incl bucketseats/wheels/ducktail on a 2010 manual car with a 4.0L 500hp engine for not much...
if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
MC99 said:
it's Ben Eastwick's car - he's on X and posts about it and his others, it's 160k+ Miles and he wanted to refresh and personalise it. Credit to him for the decision, his car, his money, his preferences and it's good to see something modern get a makeover like this imho
Nice.GTRene said:
I know a good looking 997.2 carrera 4S (Special conversion) with all the gimmics incl bucketseats/wheels/ducktail on a 2010 manual car with a 4.0L 500hp engine for not much...
if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
Is it an advertised car? if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
Youforreal. said:
GTRene said:
I know a good looking 997.2 carrera 4S (Special conversion) with all the gimmics incl bucketseats/wheels/ducktail on a 2010 manual car with a 4.0L 500hp engine for not much...
if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
Is it an advertised car? if I owned a big garage something like that would be in it as well, drive it a while and then when going for say something else, sell it for a nice profit, a win win,
GTRene said:
nice video, so a manual 997.2 GTS it is ;-) although the manual awd GTS seems to be rarer? hm, but also heavier, nope, I would take the RWD only manual GTS.
15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
Here is one of the 18 AWD GTS15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-gts-manual-20...
KittyLitter said:
GTRene said:
nice video, so a manual 997.2 GTS it is ;-) although the manual awd GTS seems to be rarer? hm, but also heavier, nope, I would take the RWD only manual GTS.
15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
Here is one of the 18 AWD GTS15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-gts-manual-20...
kith said:
PRO5T said:
Ooh that's lovely, a load of money for the mileage (my mate bought one the other year on 50k miles for about £55k) but top spec.
£55k for a manual?example...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-porsche-9...
PRO5T said:
KittyLitter said:
GTRene said:
nice video, so a manual 997.2 GTS it is ;-) although the manual awd GTS seems to be rarer? hm, but also heavier, nope, I would take the RWD only manual GTS.
15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
Here is one of the 18 AWD GTS15% on top, I would have thought a bit more, but keep it silent
https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-gts-manual-20...
but good looks on the outside, price looked ok but then I saw the high-ish mileage, as others said.That does not have to be a problem, but for a special GTS manual version I would personally not go much over say 60k/km (37282.27 miles) although I don't drive much, guess in my case I could go a bit higher, not much km per year comes on top if it stays like that.
I guess you have to be a bit lucky, also are the miles real or did they adjust it, to get a lot more money for it when selling... It was for some time often the case years ago when you bought a ex German car, it was hard to detect, many Germans drive say many many highway km, so a car from that side with say 200k/km looked like a car with 80k/km still very good, then they turned the clock back (some in between garages) and got way to much money for the product, that not alone,
but say then something broke and people began online complaining a say Porsche with just 90k on the clock that the engine or something else broke, but by then for example the car had dome say 120k/km more then what the client thought and in some cases instead of 100k/km the car had done 300k/km... and still looked like say the 100k/km in other countries over a same period but les km per year driver or way shorter distances and so on.
KittyLitter said:
4 years ago they were circa 50-60K for a manual.
example...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-porsche-9...
That's my car! I got super lucky buying that as it was just at the point where the world didn't know what was happening re: COVID. People were being sensitive with expensive assets and none of the supply chain issues had hit the automotive market which eventually sent used cars sky high. Funnily enough, collecting cars was also new to market and were determined to let this sale go through, despite it not meeting its reserve price of £63k. Towards the end of the auction they contacted the seller to say it wasn't going to meet the reserve and they made the difference up between what I paid and what he wanted for the car. In the following weeks the automotive supply chain issues hit and people started to adopt the 'we only live once' approach to luxury cars and expenses so the prices on these went to the moon compared to what I paid - happy days. example...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-porsche-9...
I had been in market for 2-3yrs prior to this purchase and had actually agreed with another private seller a very low ball offer on a PDK, artic silver, 4wd GTS, non centre lock car with only 10,000 miles on it. Fortunately and, despite a gentleman's agreement being in place, someone in the same village as the seller of the PDK car offered him what he wanted for it and he cancelled on me the day before I was going to collect it. The next day my best friend called me to say he had seen a manual one on collecting cars and I should check it out - I thanked him for the lead, but mentioned I didn't think it was something I could afford as the manuals were quite a bit out of my budget based on the research I'd been doing. However, with only a couple of hours left on the auction, I took the time to check it over and due to being quite a rare car in the UK, I was able to see it had been at PAR and Ashgood previously so built some confidence that it may be a decent car.
I also noticed that I could see the names of the people bidding on collecting cars, some of them were dealers I had asked to source me a GTS so thought....if they want it then I should, too (they'd only call me next week offering it with a margin on top)! So then I got a bit cunning and thought about the phycology of what seeing those dealers names in the bidding history did to my mindset and thought I'll create a username on collecting cars that demonstrates I am here to buy this car and this car only. So, I registered my username as 'Black997GTS' and entered a bid! There was only less than an hour to go, this was a really rushed scenario and I went on my instinct - following my initial bid, someone bid ontop, then me again and then the screen flashed saying CONGRATULATIONS! Bearing in mind I had never bought from auction, to be honest, I've barely even bought anything off eBay, i'd also never even sat in a porsche, let alone a 997 GTS, but something was telling me to follow through and I knew I wanted this perfect spec car. Anyway, here we are a four years later and I am still pinching myself every time I get to drive it. Its off to JZM for some preventative maintenance before the summer kicks in - front coolant pipes, new radiators, and 4 new tyres. Bring on the summer!
JackG60GTS said:
KittyLitter said:
4 years ago they were circa 50-60K for a manual.
example...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-porsche-9...
That's my car! I got super lucky buying that as it was just at the point where the world didn't know what was happening re: COVID. People were being sensitive with expensive assets and none of the supply chain issues had hit the automotive market which eventually sent used cars sky high. Funnily enough, collecting cars was also new to market and were determined to let this sale go through, despite it not meeting its reserve price of £63k. Towards the end of the auction they contacted the seller to say it wasn't going to meet the reserve and they made the difference up between what I paid and what he wanted for the car. In the following weeks the automotive supply chain issues hit and people started to adopt the 'we only live once' approach to luxury cars and expenses so the prices on these went to the moon compared to what I paid - happy days. example...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-porsche-9...
I had been in market for 2-3yrs prior to this purchase and had actually agreed with another private seller a very low ball offer on a PDK, artic silver, 4wd GTS, non centre lock car with only 10,000 miles on it. Fortunately and, despite a gentleman's agreement being in place, someone in the same village as the seller of the PDK car offered him what he wanted for it and he cancelled on me the day before I was going to collect it. The next day my best friend called me to say he had seen a manual one on collecting cars and I should check it out - I thanked him for the lead, but mentioned I didn't think it was something I could afford as the manuals were quite a bit out of my budget based on the research I'd been doing. However, with only a couple of hours left on the auction, I took the time to check it over and due to being quite a rare car in the UK, I was able to see it had been at PAR and Ashgood previously so built some confidence that it may be a decent car.
I also noticed that I could see the names of the people bidding on collecting cars, some of them were dealers I had asked to source me a GTS so thought....if they want it then I should, too (they'd only call me next week offering it with a margin on top)! So then I got a bit cunning and thought about the phycology of what seeing those dealers names in the bidding history did to my mindset and thought I'll create a username on collecting cars that demonstrates I am here to buy this car and this car only. So, I registered my username as 'Black997GTS' and entered a bid! There was only less than an hour to go, this was a really rushed scenario and I went on my instinct - following my initial bid, someone bid ontop, then me again and then the screen flashed saying CONGRATULATIONS! Bearing in mind I had never bought from auction, to be honest, I've barely even bought anything off eBay, i'd also never even sat in a porsche, let alone a 997 GTS, but something was telling me to follow through and I knew I wanted this perfect spec car. Anyway, here we are a four years later and I am still pinching myself every time I get to drive it. Its off to JZM for some preventative maintenance before the summer kicks in - front coolant pipes, new radiators, and 4 new tyres. Bring on the summer!
I believe that is the only solid black (non Basalt) GTS coupe in the UK. First refusal please!!
KittyLitter said:
You played a blinder there. Well done!
I believe that is the only solid black (non Basalt) GTS coupe in the UK. First refusal please!!
Thanks, I'm yet to see another, too! '888' on the plate felt fitting as I believe this is deemed lucky in some cultures and the stars definitely aligned for me! Hopefully, I'll never have to sell it, but I'll keep you in mind if that day ever comes I believe that is the only solid black (non Basalt) GTS coupe in the UK. First refusal please!!
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