Can you buy a decent spec 991.2 GT3 for under £120K?

[Dammit]

Well, we can certainly try to starve people into relocating from Sunderland to fish processing plants on the Scottish Coast, let's see how effective that is.

I'm sure the ex-Nissan workers will see it your way.

[Taffy66]

GT4P said:

We have a workforce it's called the unemployed etc! If you removed all benefits there would be no need for a European workforce to work on our farms etc. But sadly the rot set in a long time ago and Britain as a nation has become lazy courtesy of the welfare state! You can add to that an education system that even allows even the thick to go to university who end up too entitled to do a manual job and instead end up on the dole or working in McDonald's , what a complete waist!
Unemployment is hitting the young the hardest yet young Europeans are able to come to the UK and find work and many build a life for themselves buying there own homes etc. Back in the 80s I worked on farms picking fruit in Australia it was long hours,hard graft but good money for someone in there 20s.
Brexit is not the only problem at the moment to affect car prices, covid and the fact world economy was retracting pre covid who really knows what 2021 will bring but it doesn't look pretty

Brilliant post which echoes my own opinion. We have become the laziest nation on earth where youngsters are positively discouraged from doing any form of real actual manual labour. I also worked picking fruit and laboured on building sites in Australia in my 20s.Every young lad should experience some form of physical labour to give them a good grounding for work ethic as they go through life.
When i was in my 20s i was lean and strong and nothing stood in my way. I notice today's young men are weak and podgy and already developing man boobs, beer bellies and lower back problems from poor posture spending too much time sitting down in front of computer screens.

[GT4P]

Dammit said:

Well, we can certainly try to starve people into relocating from Sunderland to fish processing plants on the Scottish Coast, let's see how effective that is.

I'm sure the ex-Nissan workers will see it your way.

You either move the fishing plants or house the work force near the plant, instead of youngsters wasting there time at Uni with no job prospects at the end how about them doing periods there instead?
You could create some kind of working holiday scheme, many years ago some Londoners 2 week annual holidays use to be spent on the hop farms of Kent. And I am sure if those ex Nissan works don't want to loose there house they could work Monday to Friday away from home if some kind of boarding scheme is added to the job. Solutions not barriers

[Dammit]

And they'd vote for the government that does this to them?

(On a separate note, your idea of removing all welfare would not go down well with pensioners, either, I suspect).

[GT4P]

Dammit said:

And they'd vote for the government that does this to them?

(On a separate note, your idea of removing all welfare would not go down well with pensioners, either, I suspect).

They wouldn't vote for government that where work is on the cards and not handouts you are probably right. Many have now been conditioned in their thinking
So what's the alternative free movement where lazy bds moan about Eastern Europeans taking their jobs?
And who said anything about pensioners?
Things need to change in this country at both ends of the financial and social spectrum but sadly that will never happen as said the rot has set in!
Having some kind of trade deal with countries of Europe is a good thing and only an idiot would think otherwise but without the boys club!

[av185]

Thread drift.

[Digga]

av185 said:

Thread drift.

Wrong sort of drift too.

[Cheib]

Digga said:

av185 said:

Thread drift.

Wrong sort of drift too.

I tired doing some drifting in mine last week on a wet handling pad........I reckon I got about half way round the circle on my best effort which was one on many A lot of right foot needed to get it out there in the first place.

[Digga]

Cheib said:

Digga said:

av185 said:

Thread drift.

Wrong sort of drift too.

I tired doing some drifting in mine last week on a wet handling pad........I reckon I got about half way round the circle on my best effort which was one on many A lot of right foot needed to get it out there in the first place.

I found it easier to drift clockwise rather than anti-clockwise.

Misspent years of driving a 2WD pick up trucks around greasy roundabouts.

[EvoSid]

Melvynr said:

From the very offset when fish quota was being sold D.E.F.R.A. always stated that the fish belongs to the UK and can be pulled back in no matter who thinks they own it. The UK could have new fishing limits after Brexit and leave no foreign owners of fish quota access to fish it.
Being a fisherman myself, it is my opinion that there will be very little change if any, fish will be a huge bargaining power on behalf of the UK as Spain, France, Germany and Belgium depend on it as well as European markets.

There are many things our government could and should have done, but reasons only they can explain they have not done them.
I think the people who have bought these quotas will probably see legal action / compensation from the people hat sold them as the quota is an annual thing as far as I know . So it could be the very fisherman who wanted control of our fishing could be the ones who suffer. To be honest I am not sure how it will plat out but I fear as you do that fishing will be used as a bargaining tool for access to free trade with the EU. But will the EU move form there position, and why should they ?

[EvoSid]

GT4P said:

We have a workforce it's called the unemployed etc! If you removed all benefits there would be no need for a European workforce to work on our farms etc. But sadly the rot set in a long time ago and Britain as a nation has become lazy courtesy of the welfare state! You can add to that an education system that even allows even the thick to go to university who end up too entitled to do a manual job and instead end up on the dole or working in McDonald's , what a complete waist!
Unemployment is hitting the young the hardest yet young Europeans are able to come to the UK and find work and many build a life for themselves buying there own homes etc. Back in the 80s I worked on farms picking fruit in Australia it was long hours,hard graft but good money for someone in there 20s.
Brexit is not the only problem at the moment to affect car prices, covid and the fact world economy was retracting pre covid who really knows what 2021 will bring but it doesn't look pretty

Interesting the the Europeans are happy to come here yet our young unemployed are not inclined to get off their back sides to do work
I agree until the welfare system is cut back such that working is better than sit-in on ones arse and getting benefits we will not fill these vacancies that the europeans did. Most are leaving or have left and farmers and fish processors have struggled this year to get staff to do the work the europeans were happy to do. This in turn has led to a decrease in the rents on buy to let properties and this in turn will have a knock on effect

[EvoSid]

Ok so Brexit aside
Any good links to GT3's ?
Market seems to be softening recently

Also what is the bare minimum spec a GT3 should have so we can use that as a basis to determine if any links are cars worth buying if they have this minimum spec or not worth buying if they do not have this spec

[Cheib]

EvoSid said:

Ok so Brexit aside
Any good links to GT3's ?
Market seems to be softening recently

Also what is the bare minimum spec a GT3 should have so we can use that as a basis to determine if any links are cars worth buying if they have this minimum spec or not worth buying if they do not have this spec

My post from Page 1 of this thread

Cheib said:

I don’t think owners really matters for a GT3...one per year is probably about “normal”

If you want what the market sees as decent spec

Must have’s

PCCB’s
Lift
LED Lights
918 Buckets (possibly folding buckets are okay but 918 buckets are more desirable)
Clubsport

Plus a few others things like Bose, Leather, DAB, Dimming Mirrors, Sports Chrono (OPC’s would tell you this is a must have), Reversing Camera.

I think that’s a decent spec GT3 and would say anything over 2k miles per year is probably considered above average mileage.

For me if a car doesn’t have those “must haves” I personally wouldn’t buy it and cars thus equipped are the most expensive. So I’d say if you can find a car with those items and a few of the nice to haves for less than £120k its a cheap car as we stand today.

[Cheib]

Digga said:

Cheib said:

Digga said:

av185 said:

Thread drift.

Wrong sort of drift too.

I tired doing some drifting in mine last week on a wet handling pad........I reckon I got about half way round the circle on my best effort which was one on many A lot of right foot needed to get it out there in the first place.

I found it easier to drift clockwise rather than anti-clockwise.

Misspent years of driving a 2WD pick up trucks around greasy roundabouts.

Yes definitely easier going clockwise...ARDS instructor told me it’s harder in the wet because grip levels change when you hit standing water etc. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it !

[Melvynr]

Dammit said:

BTW Melvyn, when you say “pulled back”, you do of course mean “nationalised”- seems somewhat at odds with your general rhetoric for you to be advocating this type of action. Are you thinking of power and water companies next?

I don't understand what the hell you're going on about.I don't make the rules or advocate any action.

People who own UK fish quota face the risk of having it taken back off them by Defra, and that has always been the case.

[av185]

Fish drift.

[Melvynr]

av185 said:

Fish drift.

Magic

Am saying no more on the matter lolol

[Dammit]

Melvynr said:

I don't understand what the hell you're going on about.I don't make the rules or advocate any action.

People who own UK fish quota face the risk of having it taken back off them by Defra, and that has always been the case.

There's got to be a legal mechanism for doing that, and typically when the state takes something from private individuals that process is nationalisation of the asset, service, etc etc.

I didn't pick you for a socialist, Melvyn, but these are surprising times we live in.

[Digga]

Melvynr said:

av185 said:

Fish drift.

Magic

Am saying no more on the matter lolol

Fish tails tales.

[MeisterH]

Crikey.. logged on to the sheer amount of dribble above.. come on gent, lets get back on topic