Any decent 997.1 GT3's on the market?

Any decent 997.1 GT3's on the market?

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LordOfTheManor

1,002 posts

75 months

Thursday 25th February
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the 997 is one of the prettiest 911's by far hehe

TheThrottleCable

19 posts

88 months

Thursday 25th February
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Matter88 said:
Those door cards are fitted to Clubsport's only.

If it is not a Clubsport, then someone has changed the seats and door cards which is weird. Those Clubsport door cards have a crash protection pad in them in to offset the absence of airbags in the non Clubsport seats.

Ask the salesman for the production code, that will tell you whether is CS or not.
This above is partially incorrect for anyone reading.

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

A normal GT3 with buckets will have seats in leather and alcantara as standard trim (codes 384 & 385 / I no. P02)

What is specific to Clubsport GT3 is that in conjunction with Clubsport Package (I no. 003) the buckets come wrapped in flame retardant fabric (e.g. Nomex )

TDT said:
The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.
For those of bigger frame these belt receivers will jab you in the butt when you get in the car; you do not need to remove the seat to change the position of the belt receivers as the bolt point is accessible from the rear/side


RC1 said:
yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k
This one is not a Clubsport Package car


Digga said:
2.) Has yellow 12 o'clock marker on wheel which is not standard, so all bets off
Looks to be an upgraded 997 RS steering wheel

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30

thelostboy

4,024 posts

189 months

Thursday 25th February
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TheThrottleCable said:
Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30
Admirable nerd knowledge there - that was news to me!

I would assume any GT3 without a cage is not a CS. It would be bizarre to remove one, when you can pay less for a comfort car.

Matter88

70 posts

44 months

Thursday 25th February
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TheThrottleCable said:
Matter88 said:
Those door cards are fitted to Clubsport's only.

If it is not a Clubsport, then someone has changed the seats and door cards which is weird. Those Clubsport door cards have a crash protection pad in them in to offset the absence of airbags in the non Clubsport seats.

Ask the salesman for the production code, that will tell you whether is CS or not.
This above is partially incorrect for anyone reading.

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

A normal GT3 with buckets will have seats in leather and alcantara as standard trim (codes 384 & 385 / I no. P02)

What is specific to Clubsport GT3 is that in conjunction with Clubsport Package (I no. 003) the buckets come wrapped in flame retardant fabric (e.g. Nomex )

TDT said:
The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.
For those of bigger frame these belt receivers will jab you in the butt when you get in the car; you do not need to remove the seat to change the position of the belt receivers as the bolt point is accessible from the rear/side


RC1 said:
yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k
This one is not a Clubsport Package car


Digga said:
2.) Has yellow 12 o'clock marker on wheel which is not standard, so all bets off
Looks to be an upgraded 997 RS steering wheel

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30
Impressive bearding! I have a Clubsport with nomex seats and these padded door cards hence the post.



Digga

32,751 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th February
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thelostboy said:
TheThrottleCable said:
Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30
Admirable nerd knowledge there - that was news to me!

I would assume any GT3 without a cage is not a CS. It would be bizarre to remove one, when you can pay less for a comfort car.
Not so. I menioned ion one of my earlier posts there have been a few 997 GT3's, both Gen 1 and Gen 2, which have the carbon buckets (either CGT or the later type) but no cage. You could spec them this way and usually the seats had leather/alcantara trim.

Clubsports, as someone else correctly says, always had Nomex fabric seat coverings as standard.

However, as with the yellow 12 o'clock marker (which I've added to my own CS when I had the wheel re-trimmed) all of these things can be retro-fitted, especially over the course of a few years.

RC1

3,937 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th February
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TheThrottleCable said:
Looks to be an upgraded 997 RS steering wheel

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30
Judging by the quality of the stitching i would bet its a recover job rather than an OE or aftermarket wheel

DjSki

1,162 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th February
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dopsonj said:
You won't regret it, over 4000 miles since November done in mine, having just ticked over 173,000 total.. Love it... make the man maths work! :-)

One thing to note... It may not have AC? It has an ECO button where mine has AC OFF? Perhaps someone more familiar can confirm

  • Think you can ignore me as it appears it was a change in 2007 to the wording AC OFF rather than ECO**
Edited by dopsonj on Wednesday 24th February 21:05


Edited by dopsonj on Wednesday 24th February 21:18
Wow, 173k miles, the highest mile 997 GT3 in the world?

DjSki

1,162 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th February
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I always thought all CS 997 GT3s came from the factory with nomex seats....

SFO

5,053 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th February
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Digga said:
Not so. I menioned ion one of my earlier posts there have been a few 997 GT3's, both Gen 1 and Gen 2, which have the carbon buckets (either CGT or the later type) but no cage. You could spec them this way and usually the seats had leather/alcantara trim.
Like mine


Digga

32,751 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th February
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SFO said:
Digga said:
Not so. I menioned ion one of my earlier posts there have been a few 997 GT3's, both Gen 1 and Gen 2, which have the carbon buckets (either CGT or the later type) but no cage. You could spec them this way and usually the seats had leather/alcantara trim.
Like mine

Yep. When I began looking in earnest, there was a lovely 997.2 in Atlas grey at 911v with similar spec to yours; folding buckets, but no cage.

dopsonj

292 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th February
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DjSki said:
Wow, 173k miles, the highest mile 997 GT3 in the world?
Would love to find someone with higher....



TheThrottleCable - Top Bearding... I had wondered why I had that extra piece on the door...!

DjSki

1,162 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th February
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dopsonj said:
Would love to find someone with higher....



TheThrottleCable - Top Bearding... I had wondered why I had that extra piece on the door...!
Any engine work needed so far?

g7jhp

6,487 posts

202 months

Thursday 25th February
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thelostboy said:
Admirable nerd knowledge there - that was news to me!

I would assume any GT3 without a cage is not a CS. It would be bizarre to remove one, when you can pay less for a comfort car.
Unless someone had bought a GT3 ClubSport because they wanted the bucket seats.

Sure plenty have removed and stored/sold the cage as they didn't want to drive round with all that scaffolding in the back. It also frees up space for bags.

ferrisbueller

26,304 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th February
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dopsonj said:
Would love to find someone with higher....

Kudos. ISTR a cobalt blue one knocking about with >180k on it.

Digga

32,751 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th February
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g7jhp said:
Unless someone had bought a GT3 ClubSport because they wanted the bucket seats.

Sure plenty have removed and stored/sold the cage as they didn't want to drive round with all that scaffolding in the back. It also frees up space for bdags.

dopsonj

292 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th February
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DjSki said:
Any engine work needed so far?
Nope - Compression is sub 2% across all 6 - Has been loving cared for by previous owners who're on here and over serviced at Fearnsport!

ferrisbueller said:
Kudos. ISTR a cobalt blue one knocking about with >180k on it.
I believe that might be Rogers 996 GT3? If so, he was the previous owner of this who did the big miles in it's early years!




And so on...

Matter88

70 posts

44 months

Thursday 25th February
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SFO said:
Like mine

Do you have the padded door cards that are standard fit on Clubsport's or the normal door cards? They look like "normal" ones from here.

SFO

5,053 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th February
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Matter88 said:
SFO said:
Like mine

Do you have the padded door cards that are standard fit on Clubsport's or the normal door cards? They look like "normal" ones from here.
Normal door cards as folding buckets come with side airbags

ferrisbueller

26,304 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th February
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dopsonj said:
I believe that might be Rogers 996 GT3? If so, he was the previous owner of this who did the big miles in it's early years!




And so on...
I think that is this one? https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2018-0...


Shaoxter

3,583 posts

88 months

Thursday 25th February
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Matter88 said:
Do you have the padded door cards that are standard fit on Clubsport's or the normal door cards? They look like "normal" ones from here.
My 997.1 is a Comfort specced with bucket seats (leather & alcantara) and has the padded door cards, so same as the white car in question. Nobody has removed a cage or anything, you could spec it like that from the factory.