Discussion
Dr S said:
Only option now is getting the car black to hide the plasticky bits...
Taste is personal and I respect that. But I am almost as much slightly disappointing by the plastics on the GT3 RS (especially when the 2RS have them carbon covered), which is a car I just adore, than I am about the plastic mouth of the GT3. But I persist in thinking GT cars are about the driver feel and on track performance initially. The plastic front is designed with a strong dynamic purpose (which I like) and plastic probably makes it more affordable to change (stones, scraping). If we want more classic aesthetics in the range and the engine, then the Touring might be the option as it seems AP suggested on IG that he heard those who wanted a painted front diffuser.
I am not that fan of the front end but I am sure I could easily get used to it. Like I didn’t like the 996 front lights (gen 1 or 2) but... it didn’t make the drives less enjoyable!
We need reviews! We need first owners feedback! We need to see cars in the flesh!
av185 said:
Given the basically same engine with only minimal 10bhp power increase slightly more weight and inferior straight line performance of the 992 over 991.2 up to 125mph and without being cynical many existing owners could well be viewing the 992 GT3 RS with its bigger engine and likely c525bhp as the only worthwhile next realistic proper GT3 worth considering.
Interesting that the 469bhp of the 991.1 increased a worthy 24bhp in the 991.2 together with other major improvements too.
992 GT3 will no doubt be a decent package but is it great enough especially having regards to the marmite looks and price hike with possibly still more increases ££ to come.
Don’t under estimate the newer engine. I currently have both 991.2 gt3 manual cs and speedster. The speedster is circa 50kg’s heavier. The speedster has noticeably more pull at the top end of the Rev range. I think it’s fair to say the 992 will be lighter than a speedster so the difference the new engine makes will be noticeable. Interesting that the 469bhp of the 991.1 increased a worthy 24bhp in the 991.2 together with other major improvements too.
992 GT3 will no doubt be a decent package but is it great enough especially having regards to the marmite looks and price hike with possibly still more increases ££ to come.
Edited by av185 on Thursday 25th February 20:40
JulierPass said:
Don’t under estimate the newer engine. I currently have both 991.2 gt3 manual cs and speedster. The speedster is circa 50kg’s heavier. The speedster has noticeably more pull at the top end of the Rev range. I think it’s fair to say the 992 will be lighter than a speedster so the difference the new engine makes will be noticeable.
That's great to read from an actual owner of these two cars and both with identical Manual gear boxes. I had a 991.2GT3 PDK and now an RS WP and i can tell that my RS pulls harder than my old GT3 did. I expected it with an extra 20Hp and probably a good 30-40Kg less weight but with your Speedster's extra weight and only 10Hp more is much more telling.JulierPass said:
av185 said:
Given the basically same engine with only minimal 10bhp power increase slightly more weight and inferior straight line performance of the 992 over 991.2 up to 125mph and without being cynical many existing owners could well be viewing the 992 GT3 RS with its bigger engine and likely c525bhp as the only worthwhile next realistic proper GT3 worth considering.
Interesting that the 469bhp of the 991.1 increased a worthy 24bhp in the 991.2 together with other major improvements too.
992 GT3 will no doubt be a decent package but is it great enough especially having regards to the marmite looks and price hike with possibly still more increases ££ to come.
Don’t under estimate the newer engine. I currently have both 991.2 gt3 manual cs and speedster. The speedster is circa 50kg’s heavier. The speedster has noticeably more pull at the top end of the Rev range. I think it’s fair to say the 992 will be lighter than a speedster so the difference the new engine makes will be noticeable. Interesting that the 469bhp of the 991.1 increased a worthy 24bhp in the 991.2 together with other major improvements too.
992 GT3 will no doubt be a decent package but is it great enough especially having regards to the marmite looks and price hike with possibly still more increases ££ to come.
Edited by av185 on Thursday 25th February 20:40
Taffy66 said:
That's great to read from an actual owner of these two cars and both with identical Manual gear boxes. I had a 991.2GT3 PDK and now an RS WP and i can tell that my RS pulls harder than my old GT3 did. I expected it with an extra 20Hp and probably a good 30-40Kg less weight but with your Speedster's extra weight and only 10Hp more is much more telling.
A guy is looking to buy a .2 gt3 and my dealer asked if id mind giving him a run out , had a couple of good opportunities to open it up and to be honest could not feel any weight difference in speed or handling.Pulled in and gave him a go at the wheel, surprising how you feel vulnerable with someone else opening it up, but the ride in passenger seat was superb .Pay off being , he's pulling his M3 CSL out of hibernation come spring and going to return the favour, he's had it from new now with 60k miles, KWS, AP brakes and Supersprint exhaust so yum yum yum.Edited by Melvynr on Tuesday 2nd March 20:12
Edited by Melvynr on Tuesday 2nd March 20:13
I hadn’t realised that the 992 had adjustable wing settings for downforce....it’s got a track and road setting. So these lap times will have been set with the track setting I assume....combine track downforce, tyres and faster track I wonder how much quicker it really is versus the old car without those things all adding to the performance. .
Cheib said:
I hadn’t realised that the 992 had adjustable wing settings for downforce....it’s got a track and road setting. So these lap times will have been set with the track setting I assume....combine track downforce, tyres and faster track I wonder how much quicker it really is versus the old car without those things all adding to the performance. .
Much more downforce, smoother faster 'Ring, R spec tyres along with a grippier front end added up together is enough to account for the faster time. I'm afraid there is also a fair bit of marketing bluff to entice buyers to chase the latest and greatest. Imagine trying to market the 992GT3 with a 'Ring time only a couple of seconds faster than the previous gen.
TDT said:
Yellow491 said:
The latest wp /rs has been rollered at 440bhp already i believe.
What's this?Found it .... https://youtu.be/1MQUUACAyKY
Edited by TDT on Friday 26th February 22:02
Taffy66 said:
That's great to read from an actual owner of these two cars and both with identical Manual gear boxes. I had a 991.2GT3 PDK and now an RS WP and i can tell that my RS pulls harder than my old GT3 did. I expected it with an extra 20Hp and probably a good 30-40Kg less weight but with your Speedster's extra weight and only 10Hp more is much more telling.
Not sure how many miles you have on your GT3RS, but at around 1500 ( Inc about 1k on track) the blue engine run in light goes out. Then the engine drives like its on another Map, it really comes alive in sounds also. I am really looking forward to get this new GT3 on track have some Cup 2 R ready to go on, based on just how good my 991.2GT3 was with just a few GEO and ride height settings, have high expectations for this new car.. Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff