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diffstar said:
Porsche911R said:
there are right and wrongs if you want the faster track car and less money on tyres to run a track car.
the new cars now got a RSR front end !
The new GT3 is the old RS and then some
the new 992 RS , well think of that as the swan song car like the 997 4.0l car.
So the most mainstream faster car will be the 992 Gt3, that's black and white with a lucky select few allowed the 992 RS.
Special don't come into it unless you get a 992 RS allocation. your Special just = slower ! :-) ego denting but that's how things move on I guess.
Who spends over £150k on a new motor to save a few quid on tyre wear........now read that back to yourself without laughing. I mean honestly.....the new cars now got a RSR front end !
The new GT3 is the old RS and then some
the new 992 RS , well think of that as the swan song car like the 997 4.0l car.
So the most mainstream faster car will be the 992 Gt3, that's black and white with a lucky select few allowed the 992 RS.
Special don't come into it unless you get a 992 RS allocation. your Special just = slower ! :-) ego denting but that's how things move on I guess.
Hopefully I’ll be one of the lucky guys. After reading everything I can I can’t wait.
My OPC has told me they expect 2 cars in the first batch April/May delivery with the configurator going live on the 27th. I’m meant to be getting the first car
I try and get away for a couple of track days each year and also the ring, I’m really looking forward to seeing what times the car puts down, from what I’ve read a sub 7 min is on the cards and that will be truly amazing even more so from a 500bhp car or 520 I’ve read.
My OPC has told me they expect 2 cars in the first batch April/May delivery with the configurator going live on the 27th. I’m meant to be getting the first car
I try and get away for a couple of track days each year and also the ring, I’m really looking forward to seeing what times the car puts down, from what I’ve read a sub 7 min is on the cards and that will be truly amazing even more so from a 500bhp car or 520 I’ve read.
This thread is turning into a classic....some useful and interesting information with some less useful speculation and opinion.
It’ll be a phenomenal car without a doubt but the previous car is so bloody good it’s just not obvious that it’s a total no brainier.
As for opinions of it...the person I’ll be really interested to hear his opinion of it is the PEC instructor I use....totally unbiased, obviously knows the cars backwards and has got more talent than I’ll ever have !
It’ll be a phenomenal car without a doubt but the previous car is so bloody good it’s just not obvious that it’s a total no brainier.
As for opinions of it...the person I’ll be really interested to hear his opinion of it is the PEC instructor I use....totally unbiased, obviously knows the cars backwards and has got more talent than I’ll ever have !
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Taffy66 said:
Porsche 992GT3 which was originally meant to be officially revealed on the 26th has been delayed until Feb 16th. This is blamed on Covid delaying some parts which will delay production for a month or so. Have read this from a poster on Rennlist who is always correct as he has very close links with the Porsche Factory Motorsport on a first hand personal basis.
Probably where MrD gets his info from if he admitted it rather than playing secret squirrel.
How can parts delay an embargo for 3 weeks when all the press material has been written months ago. I can see production getting delayed but not an embargoProbably where MrD gets his info from if he admitted it rather than playing secret squirrel.
Robbo66 said:
Let’s be honest, 99% of us wouldn’t be able to tell if it had double wishbones or double trombone’s, and if asked where it was, would probably point at the offside exhaust pipe.
It’s called ‘marketing’.
99% of owners probably won’t be driving the car hard enough to feel the difference either.! I wonder how different it will be driven at 7 or 8 tenths from 991.2 ...engine will feel the same/quieter, aero seems like it’s all about reduced drag for improved top end speed, I suspect the chassis/suspension will be more of an improvement than we think. It’s called ‘marketing’.
Taffy66 said:
Porsche 992GT3 which was originally meant to be officially revealed on the 26th has been delayed until Feb 16th. This is blamed on Covid delaying some parts which will delay production for a month or so. Have read this from a poster on Rennlist who is always correct as he has very close links with the Porsche Factory Motorsport on a first hand personal basis.
Probably where MrD gets his info from if he admitted it rather than playing secret squirrel.
No. I would not repost other forum stuff it might be fake and that's more than my life is worth on here.Probably where MrD gets his info from if he admitted it rather than playing secret squirrel.
Plus I don't have a time machine, I posted the dates Friday midday, Rennlist posted the dates Saturday :-)
A thankyou for the info or a sorry would be a nicer post :-)
Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 25th January 09:06
Taffy66 said:
The really intriguing part is the effect the front double wishbones will have on the dynamics. I suspect it'll be significant and a real game changer...time will tell..!
less camber needed, faster corner speeds, and with a wider track better turn in, all that will add to better braking also.And for the track rats maybe no corded outers after 3 sessions.
Porsche911R said:
No. I would not repost other forum stuff it might be fake and that's more than my life is worth on here.
In any event you said mid Feb before the RL post went up. Intrigued just how much difference this new suspension set up is going to make in terms of a Lap times or if its something you can actually feel. With regard to tyre wear rates when I put more camber on my GT3.2 this greatly improved the wear rates.NIgt3 said:
Porsche911R said:
Koln-RS said:
Haven’t read anything yet that makes me want a 992GT3.
Faster, just as light as the last one, double wishbones, more downforce, less drag so better performance down the straights, less sound deading so more Motorsport in the cabin, better brakes. If you track a GT3 bar the new RS this is the car to own, it will pay you back in tyre wear alone.
Does it suit a manual now , maybe not, it’s a tough one for the people on the list what box to choose, but you have to go PDK I think.
I think if you own the manual 991.2 car then you bought that for a reason, if you bought a PDK for the performance then the 992 will kill even the old RS WP car.
So again if you are the rich show off type the old RS WP is very out of date and laps slower and at £200k bad value vs the 992 performance.
We can forget the 992 RS I think that car will be over £200k list
Maybe even £250k and super rare. So for the normal punter the 992 GT3 is the car to be seen in at these high end Silverstone track days and will be the fastest cars.
As robbo said most wont know whats what ,which is fair enough,but to save on tyres if thats a concern the car and running costs are to much for the individual concerned ,the skoda dealer is normally not to far away.
Taffy i sense you are getting itchy feet,dont do it ,a wp car for a mainstream gt3 great it is ,is not a wp car,i think the wp car is a thing of beauty and even better to drive.Did you ever sort the extra carbon bits.
Yellow491 said:
What you do is totally ignore r and his ignorance, he is just being his normal self conceited Way.One thing that wont happen is him driving a new gt3 or rs and killing a wp car on track, because he does not play that way.
As robbo said most wont know whats what ,which is fair enough, but to save on tyres if thats a concern the car and running costs are to much for the individual concerned ,the skoda dealer is normally not to far away.
Taffy i sense you are getting itchy feet, dont do it ,a wp car for a mainstream gt3 great it is ,is not a wp car, i think the wp car is a thing of beauty and even better to drive. Did you ever sort the extra carbon bits.
Ignoring R is advice to live by, not just in this thread but in life.As robbo said most wont know whats what ,which is fair enough, but to save on tyres if thats a concern the car and running costs are to much for the individual concerned ,the skoda dealer is normally not to far away.
Taffy i sense you are getting itchy feet, dont do it ,a wp car for a mainstream gt3 great it is ,is not a wp car, i think the wp car is a thing of beauty and even better to drive. Did you ever sort the extra carbon bits.
Yellow491 said:
What you do is totally ignore r and his ignorance, he is just being his normal self conceited Way.One thing that wont happen is him driving a new gt3 or rs and killing a wp car on track,because he does not play that way.
Why do you have this view? I have been on track with R quite a few times, and going for a time also. The last one being the EVO fast laps day. OK some might not like his delivery, but what he says is on point, from the pre build slots for the Turbo S back in Feb before it was announced , to the" Black Circle Group" which is a continuation of the 918 VIP programme.Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 25th January 10:20
I don’t mind, and sometimes quite like, Mr R’s contributions - I sometimes agree.
You just have to read through the ‘sweeping generalisations’, ‘opinion presented as fact’, and occasional ‘self righteousness’.
But he’s not the only one.
WRT the new GT3, I’m sure it will be a brilliant track and fast road machine, but I had lengthy access to a 991.2GT3 and felt that, as a regular road car, it left me a bit cold. I actually thought the ‘T’ was more accessible fun at a huge cost saving - and this may prove the case with the 992s.
Also, as suggested above, Porsche have the ‘marketing’ formula down to a fine art, enticing customers to buy the next newest ‘must have’ model. Surely the one to have will be the 992.2GT3, if history repeats itself?
Of course some people must always have the newest and latest model, and that’s what feeds Porsche’s coffers.
You just have to read through the ‘sweeping generalisations’, ‘opinion presented as fact’, and occasional ‘self righteousness’.
But he’s not the only one.
WRT the new GT3, I’m sure it will be a brilliant track and fast road machine, but I had lengthy access to a 991.2GT3 and felt that, as a regular road car, it left me a bit cold. I actually thought the ‘T’ was more accessible fun at a huge cost saving - and this may prove the case with the 992s.
Also, as suggested above, Porsche have the ‘marketing’ formula down to a fine art, enticing customers to buy the next newest ‘must have’ model. Surely the one to have will be the 992.2GT3, if history repeats itself?
Of course some people must always have the newest and latest model, and that’s what feeds Porsche’s coffers.
APOLO1 said:
Yellow491 said:
What you do is totally ignore r and his ignorance, he is just being his normal self conceited Way.One thing that wont happen is him driving a new gt3 or rs and killing a wp car on track,because he does not play that way.
Why do you have this view? I have been on track with R quite a few times, and going for a time also. The last one being the EVO fast laps day. OK some might not like his delivery, but what he says is on point, from the pre build slots for the Turbo S back in Feb before it was announced , to the" Black Circle Group" which is a continuation of the 918 VIP programme.Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 25th January 10:20
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