992 GT3

[MDL111]

Just to add - pretty cool that they let him do this in September last year in a - I assume - pre-production car

[isaldiri]

Bit quicker than their .2rs lap on cup2 R. Interesting.

[Echo Delta]

I've been intrigued as to why Porsche haven't posted any Nurburgring lap times for the 992 Turbo S since launch.

Was it too fast?

[gtsralph]

Most of the reviews in one place

https://www.pca.org/news/watch-read-all-of-the-bes...

[ChrisW.]

The Cup2R's seem to be delivering around an extra 0.4g ...

Interesting also that the step-change from Porsche appears to be that the new GT3 matches the previous version GT3RS ring-time .... ?

Regarding older models, we need factors for changes in the circuit and tyres.

I wonder what a 996.1CS could do on Cup2R's ?? I notice when edging 2g laterally there was noise of either kerb or tyre-in-arch rubbing with the 992 ...

[Macca993]

Those look like Cup2 tyres on the preview to the SportAuto lap. 210 treadwear no "R" in a block on the sidewall and the channel between the outer block of teh front tyre and the next block is much wider than the CupR tyre...

Not a bad lap given Christian did 7.06 in the 991.2 GT3RS so a second quicker. SportAuto lap times always 3-4s slower than factory driver but Christian is super consistent.

[Timbuktu]

Echo Delta said:

I've been intrigued as to why Porsche haven't posted any Nurburgring lap times for the 992 Turbo S since launch.

Was it too fast?

Yes... Also, Chris Harris hasn't done a review yet which seems odd! Most others have.

[Dr S]

Echo Delta said:

I've been intrigued as to why Porsche haven't posted any Nurburgring lap times for the 992 Turbo S since launch.

Was it too fast?

Sport Auto did. The 992 TS was slower than the 911.2 TS . This was down to tire choice. The 2 TS does not come with the sticky stuff as option anymore

[jcosh]

TDT said:

The ‘real’ 992 GT3 ring lap.... 7m04.74.. on Cup2 R

I see he is letting the gearbox shift automatically? Or am I missing something?

[TDT]

jcosh said:

TDT said:

The ‘real’ 992 GT3 ring lap.... 7m04.74.. on Cup2 R

I see he is letting the gearbox shift automatically? Or am I missing something?

He does in some spots and in others, he does it himself.... you can hear he runs it bouncing on the limiter through one section at around 5m55 on the video.

[Melvynr]

Heard him hit the limiter a couple of times, so that is in manual mode whilst still auto selected, you get around 10 secs before it reverts fully back to auto with the PDKS if you hit the paddles or stick.

[Cheib]

Dr S said:

Echo Delta said:

I've been intrigued as to why Porsche haven't posted any Nurburgring lap times for the 992 Turbo S since launch.

Was it too fast?

Sport Auto did. The 992 TS was slower than the 911.2 TS . This was down to tire choice. The 2 TS does not come with the sticky stuff as option anymore

Great example of how important tyres are...and how big a part they play in the performance progress of these cars.

[Steve Rance]

ChrisW. said:

The Cup2R's seem to be delivering around an extra 0.4g ...

Interesting also that the step-change from Porsche appears to be that the new GT3 matches the previous version GT3RS ring-time .... ?

Regarding older models, we need factors for changes in the circuit and tyres.

I wonder what a 996.1CS could do on Cup2R's ?? I notice when edging 2g laterally there was noise of either kerb or tyre-in-arch rubbing with the 992 ...

The problem with using compounds that are closer to full slick is that they go off so quickly. The original cups were fantanstic for consistency. You could get 3-4 days out of a set of fronts and 2-3 out of a set of rears in a GT3. Never a problem of them going off during a session and you would generally only lose a second or so over the whole life of the tyre. The cup 2 is not as consistent. Even in my 964 they go off after 4 or 5 laps that will be worse in a GT3. The R will be worse still. The downside of a slick compound is that grip falls off substantially once the get past their window and generally have less grip than a Cup tyre after a few hours - maybe 3-4 if its a Dunlop. I can see the R being OK for the ring as it's not that hard on tyres there - and these days everything is about the 'ring time'. On a normal give and take circuit i'm not sure they are great idea.

[Digga]

TDT said:

He does in some spots and in others, he does it himself.... you can hear he runs it bouncing on the limiter through one section at around 5m55 on the video.

I genuinely think that was in error rather than deliberate. he shift's down into Hohe Acht, but then just seems to miss/forget to upshift on way out.

[Digga]

Steve Rance said:

ChrisW. said:

The Cup2R's seem to be delivering around an extra 0.4g ...

Interesting also that the step-change from Porsche appears to be that the new GT3 matches the previous version GT3RS ring-time .... ?

Regarding older models, we need factors for changes in the circuit and tyres.

I wonder what a 996.1CS could do on Cup2R's ?? I notice when edging 2g laterally there was noise of either kerb or tyre-in-arch rubbing with the 992 ...

The problem with using compounds that are closer to full slick is that they go off so quickly. The original cups were fantanstic for consistency. You could get 3-4 days out of a set of fronts and 2-3 out of a set of rears in a GT3. Never a problem of them going off during a session and you would generally only lose a second or so over the whole life of the tyre. The cup 2 is not as consistent. Even in my 964 they go off after 4 or 5 laps that will be worse in a GT3. The R will be worse still. The downside of a slick compound is that grip falls off substantially once the get past their window and generally have less grip than a Cup tyre after a few hours - maybe 3-4 if its a Dunlop. I can see the R being OK for the ring as it's not that hard on tyres there - and these days everything is about the 'ring time'. On a normal give and take circuit i'm not sure they are great idea.

IME with Cup 2's, on some tracks I had to have three goes at getting pressures down to something that felt right. It may well be that I an simply just too slow - a faster driver would have got up to pace and got more heat in the tyres in less time and fewer sessions - but it happens.

[Steve Rance]

Its not uncommon fro drivers to have to bleed off a few times before temps are stable. Don't give yourself a hard time over it!

[franki68]

Cheib said:

Great example of how important tyres are...and how big a part they play in the performance progress of these cars.

even more amazing is that is despite the 992 turbo being quite a bit quicker than the 991 turbo (see the videos) in a drag race.

[rkwm1]

Nogaro Blue

i think it looks great











https://www.instagram.com/p/COlMkTAnT75/

[TDT]

Digga said:

TDT said:

He does in some spots and in others, he does it himself.... you can hear he runs it bouncing on the limiter through one section at around 5m55 on the video.

I genuinely think that was in error rather than deliberate. he shift's down into Hohe Acht, but then just seems to miss/forget to upshift on way out.

Agree it was an error/forgot to/didn’t catch it in time.

[Melvynr]

That is what its there for