992 GT3

[IREvans]

Yellow491 said:

A question, is that not just a unweighted wheel on full droop, or as you say with a rcv that wheel would travel down far enough to make contact?.Just i regularly wave a front wheel in my 911 hillclimber on xtec dampers and progressive springs which dont have the valves, my new moton dampers for a different car I have just ordered has a valve and very Little droop,thanks.

This is a WRC car, so more travel, but as ever, a picture is worth a thousand words.

[ChrisW.]

We recently discussed the provenance of the Motorsport Division building of the 996GT3 MkI .... I read it here !

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features-h...

Twice ... So it must be true ...

[Yellow491]

IREvans said:

Yellow491 said:

A question, is that not just a unweighted wheel on full droop, or as you say with a rcv that wheel would travel down far enough to make contact?.Just i regularly wave a front wheel in my 911 hillclimber on xtec dampers and progressive springs which dont have the valves, my new moton dampers for a different car I have just ordered has a valve and very Little droop,thanks.

This is a WRC car, so more travel, but as ever, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Thanks

[Yellow491]

ChrisW. said:

We recently discussed the provenance of the Motorsport Division building of the 996GT3 MkI .... I read it here !

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features-h...

Twice ... So it must be true ...

Dont believe all you read on the internet, especially on PH.As we said before, chassis numbers that are tattooed are from the factory, numbers that are stamped would possibly come from weisach.I will have to go and look at my mates ex richard burns gt3.

[Cheib]

TDT said:

ChrisW. said:

Very interesting and useful.

So are we agreed that a group of enthusiasts comparing notes and making careful modifications to their cars can result in a more affordable / better performance from an existing homologated vehicle ?

The reason I ask is that anybody reading the Modified Forum section of the latest Porsche Post would have discovered that there are moves to limit or possibly even stop the aftermarket modification of our cars.

Consultation is being invited ...

It is obvious that where autonomous or semi-autonomous vehicles have built-in features (with their use mandated by legislation), that it should not be legal to disable them.

But where might this end ? Limits on modifications that affect economy ? (gearing and power) Noise ? (exhausts and suspension) ... simple modification safety and approval ?

Road legal race cars ?

There is a petition to sign…

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/600954

My guess this legislation is thinking of things like built in intelligent speed limiters that won't allow you to speed in built up areas and the like. But I think it is probably giving the police more powers for things like noisy exhausts.....as we know noise cameras are already being trialled.

There is already some legislation around this regarding cars that are modified and the MOT test, think it was brought in because people were removing DPF's because they were causing so many problems. If the car doesn't meet the emissions standards when it was new it is an automatic MOT failure. I think because of that legislation you are already on slightly dodgy territory if you removed your GPF to release some exhaust noise....technically because of that the car isn't road legal because the emissions are now in breach of whatever standards the GPF was brought in to meet. That is obviously only tested at three years old so can be avoided by putting the old exhaust back on.

[Digga]

Cheib is onto something regarding deletion of troublesome emissions hardware. Both DPF and also EGR valves are a real PITA on many modern vehicles.

We got shot of a VW Amarok V6 at work which had had three separate failures due to DPF blockage, despite doing long journeys within first 3 years. The last failure (vehicle goes into limp mode and cannot be driven) also took out the EGR.

You follow a lot of newish diesel cars (I.e. under 10 years) that are belching smoke under acceleration and know they’ve not met MOT standards.

[skidskid]

hornbaek said:

So I dodged the skiing and went for an extended drive on country / mountain roads - tough life I know.

I am simply baffled by Harry‘s and also EVO‘s views on the unruly tracking and the required steering inputs to the GT3. There is nothing at all. The steering reacts immediately, is very pointy, has the right weight to it and there is not a trace of tramlining or getting off on a tangent requiring untimely and frequent steering inputs. I simply don‘t understand what was wrong with the white GT3 testcar - or the EVO car for that sake. Admittedly I have winter tyres on my car (Michelin Pilot Alpin) so that might just tame the steering a bit but this is my 4th GT Deparment car and it is the one with the most direct compliant steering of the lot. My 997 GT3 RS 4.0 is probably a tad more direct still ( I haven’t driven them back to back yet) where my 991.1 GT3 RS was the one with the most „skiddish“ steering where, when going very slowly it would just push ahead over the front wheels when trying to turn into a parking spot etc. I never really warmed to the 991.1 GT3 RS as it was too clinical for my liking having none of the finesse that the 997 GT3 RS has. The new 992 GT3 is definitely an everyday car with an edge. For those waiting to take delivery you have something very special coming your way and @Harry, if you make it to the Austrian Alps this winter please come by and have a drive. Merry Christmas all !


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Edited by hornbaek on Wednesday 22 December 14:31

Edited by hornbaek on Wednesday 22 December 15:45

I think this is due to the differences between an Austrian pass and a UK B road, even the worst Austrian mountain road is still much better and nicer to drive on than a UK B road. I'm a Brit abroad living in Tirol and when I moved here a few years ago brought my VX220 over for a summer, in the UK it had the same steering issues Harry had in his GT3 review but in the Alps it was much better.

I love living here and seeing people use great cars all year, top work on using this in the snow! Yesterday I saw someone turn up to the ski resort in a 991 cab with the skis on the back seat.

[ChrisW.]

ChrisW. said:

We recently discussed the provenance of the Motorsport Division building of the 996GT3 MkI .... I read it here !

https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features-h...

Twice ... So it must be true ...

"The 996.1 GT3 was built in the Motorsports department beside the Cup cars. This wasn’t the case with the later 2004-2005 GT3’s. They featured a lot of variability in terms of optional equipment and shared a great deal of their construction with the Cup. They’re easily the closest to the Cup out of all the GT3 variants in the last 20 years. Quite special cars these early GT3’s and definitely a special part of the modern Porsche GT car story."

And here ....

[pumper1]

I think this subject has been addressed before but I am struggling to obtain an acceptable quote for 992GT3 insurance cover to include track days. Locktons rates appear to have gone sky high recently. Mannings no longer offer T/D cover. any suggestions ??

[Taffy66]

pumper1 said:

I think this subject has been addressed before but I am struggling to obtain an acceptable quote for 992GT3 insurance cover to include track days. Locktons rates appear to have gone sky high recently. Mannings no longer offer T/D cover. any suggestions ??

Try Classicline or even better Footman James. I'm now with Locktons which are great but only cover PCGB organised track days.

[Purple Man]

There must be a couple more 992 GT3 cars arriving as there are a few nice spec 991.2 GT3's being advertised in the last couple of days.

[mc_blue]

Have many of you made the change from 991.2 GT3 to 992? If so how do you find the new one?

[jh001]

I was told by my guy at the OPC that cars are now coming through, apparently the are delivering 85 cars this month

[noneedtolift]

hornbaek said:

In the garage this morning.

Edited by hornbaek on Tuesday 21st December 17:12

Edited by hornbaek on Tuesday 21st December 17:14

I see you also bought yours in Munich :-)

[CloudStuff]

Purple Man said:

There must be a couple more 992 GT3 cars arriving as there are a few nice spec 991.2 GT3's being advertised in the last couple of days.

991.2's down to sub 100 by April.

[franki68]

CloudStuff said:

991.2's down to sub 100 by April.

on which planet ?

[Purple Man]

991.2 GT3''s will go up in value, in my opinion when we get a bit of better weather. March/April.
Especially the Clubsport Cars with ceramics.

[CloudStuff]

franki68 said:

CloudStuff said:

991.2's down to sub 100 by April.

on which planet ?

Tongue in cheek!

[TDT]

I have been keeping an eye on 991.2 GT3... its a bit tricky at the moment I think - because more of these will come to market as many more 992 GT3 are arriving this year and so existing 991 owners will be exiting into them.

[paralla]

Purple Man said:

991.2 GT3''s will go up in value, in my opinion when we get a bit of better weather. March/April.
Especially the Clubsport Cars with ceramics.

From your keyboard to God's ears. My 992 arrives April/May.

I'm hoping for a punchy part exchange valuation for my Spanish 991.2 clubsport with ceramics.