992 GT3

[franki68]

BorkBorkBork said:

I wish they would. Sadly, I think Porsche turn a blind eye simply because it’s good for business. The amount of talk, both online and off about their halo products is all great for marketing.

I’ve bought 6 cars from 4 different OPC’s since Feb 2019, including 2 Macans, 2 GT3’s, a C4 GTS and a Taycan CT. Totalling nearly £700k, and I haven’t got a hope of getting an allocation now or at any point in the future.

I know I should have tried to restrict all my business to one OPC, but in the case of the GT3’s, they were both bought for over list, and I had to go where I could find them.

Personally I think I’ve put enough business through this brand to have a chance of buying one of their halo products at list. But alas, their franchise model works against people like me who want the cars they want, not what a particular OPC wants to sell me.

And yes, I am quite bitter. Tarnishes the brand for me, and my love affair with it isn’t what it might be. I’d love a 992 Touring, but I know I’ll have to wait at least 18 months and probably pay £50k over list for one that I haven’t been lucky enough to spec myself.

Why can’t Porsche GB keep a database of customers and their total spend with the brand regardless of OPC? As well as implement a contract where allocations for halo cars come with a strict no sale policy for two years? And then decide on allocations impartially from a central point?

Maybe if you bought them all from one dealer you may have had more chance ?
Spreading the love is not always beneficial .

[av185]

franki68 said:

BorkBorkBork said:

I wish they would. Sadly, I think Porsche turn a blind eye simply because it’s good for business. The amount of talk, both online and off about their halo products is all great for marketing.

I’ve bought 6 cars from 4 different OPC’s since Feb 2019, including 2 Macans, 2 GT3’s, a C4 GTS and a Taycan CT. Totalling nearly £700k, and I haven’t got a hope of getting an allocation now or at any point in the future.

I know I should have tried to restrict all my business to one OPC, but in the case of the GT3’s, they were both bought for over list, and I had to go where I could find them.

Personally I think I’ve put enough business through this brand to have a chance of buying one of their halo products at list. But alas, their franchise model works against people like me who want the cars they want, not what a particular OPC wants to sell me.

And yes, I am quite bitter. Tarnishes the brand for me, and my love affair with it isn’t what it might be. I’d love a 992 Touring, but I know I’ll have to wait at least 18 months and probably pay £50k over list for one that I haven’t been lucky enough to spec myself.

Why can’t Porsche GB keep a database of customers and their total spend with the brand regardless of OPC? As well as implement a contract where allocations for halo cars come with a strict no sale policy for two years? And then decide on allocations impartially from a central point?

Maybe if you bought them all from one dealer you may have had more chance ?
Spreading the love is not always beneficial .

Yep in fact even buying from different OPCs within the same franchise group doesn't 'count.'

Has to be the same OPC unless you are big into fleet buying numbers.

[Jules 1]

I’ve still got my RS WP purchased from new by me at PRG, heading for a 2 year service next week. I don’t think the FCA would take kindly to any restrictive covenants being imposed by Porsche on UK customers!

[Melvynr]

julian987R said:

You may well dislike Archie, I for one find him irritating, but to say he is a wannabe when is has 300K+ subscribers is a bit of a reach.

To be very fair to the guy, he has gone up in my estimation as he can be quite sensible.


https://youtu.be/aldqQ7F6-TQ

[julian987R]

Spec wise, hardly any difference between these two (in the great scheme of things) bar the colour, yet the price difference is £45K!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108035...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107275...

[Taffy66]

julian987R said:

Spec wise, hardly any difference between these two (in the great scheme of things) bar the colour, yet the price difference is £45K!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108035...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107275...

Even the cheaper one is way over priced IMO. Stranger still both are on Steel Brakes as the PCCBs are usually the number 1 'Must have' option that 'flippers' pick for a speedy profitable sale.

Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 5th August 23:31

[dasayerts]

Have you looked at the relative price and performance of a McLaren 650S

I love 911s and have had three including a great 997 GT3

A 600LT or a 650S would be better on track or road than any 911 unless you really are a star

I’ve also found them reliable and cost effective

Research around potential buys is a joy

Be joyful

[DannyScene]

julian987R said:

Spec wise, hardly any difference between these two (in the great scheme of things) bar the colour, yet the price difference is £45K!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108035...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107275...

Possibly the only car that looks better in black, not sure on the chavvy gold strip down the bonnet though, ruins any Porsche that has that decal pack

[Cheib]

Jules 1 said:

I’ve still got my RS WP purchased from new by me at PRG, heading for a 2 year service next week. I don’t think the FCA would take kindly to any restrictive covenants being imposed by Porsche on UK customers!

FCA doesn’t regulate the used car market….

The reason Porsche GB doesn’t get involved is that the customers are customers of the OPC’s not Porsche GB (apart from the Porsche GB owned OPC’s). Porsche GB can and do tell OPC’s they will lose bonus payments if they sell cars to certain customers e.g. those that are brokers who immediately export cars to other RHD markets but I don’t think Porsche GB can tell the OPC’s who they can sell cars too.

[franki68]

DannyScene said:

Possibly the only car that looks better in black, not sure on the chavvy gold strip down the bonnet though, ruins any Porsche that has that decal pack

I am not a fan of black (he says having just bought his wife a black car I remember why I stopped buying black) ,but by a mile it's the best colour on the new car,hides that plastic nastiness better.

[av185]

Posted last week on the good numberplate thread. Number worth more than the car?

Edited by av185 on Friday 6th August 13:12

[CloudStuff]

Cheib said:

Jules 1 said:

I’ve still got my RS WP purchased from new by me at PRG, heading for a 2 year service next week. I don’t think the FCA would take kindly to any restrictive covenants being imposed by Porsche on UK customers!

FCA doesn’t regulate the used car market….

The reason Porsche GB doesn’t get involved is that the customers are customers of the OPC’s not Porsche GB (apart from the Porsche GB owned OPC’s). Porsche GB can and do tell OPC’s they will lose bonus payments if they sell cars to certain customers e.g. those that are brokers who immediately export cars to other RHD markets but I don’t think Porsche GB can tell the OPC’s who they can sell cars too.

"FCA doesn’t regulate the used car market…."

No they don't regulate the market itself, but they do regulate the financing of used car purchases, though?

[Yellow491]

hunter 66 said:

Asked about a Touring ... no go . Guess I specced my .2 RS a little on the skinny side . But then I am a user not a polisher

Why do you want a old mans car mate;)

[throt]

Yellow491 said:

hunter 66 said:

Asked about a Touring ... no go . Guess I specced my .2 RS a little on the skinny side . But then I am a user not a polisher

Why do you want a old mans car mate;)

Get a jag, guys

[Taffy66]

Yellow491 said:

hunter 66 said:

Asked about a Touring ... no go . Guess I specced my .2 RS a little on the skinny side . But then I am a user not a polisher

Why do you want a old mans car mate;)

I also wanted a Touring but when i showed pics of the new 992GT3 Touring to my kids they went It got even worse when i said i might swap my RS WP for one.

[av185]

Unfortunately kids rule the roost when it comes to cars...

[Jim1556]

Yellow491 said:

good luck to them and hmrc to clamp down on them.

Don't think hmrc can touch used car sales?

[av185]

The Revenue can't do a thing and won't show any interest.

[paul0843]

Jim1556 said:

Yellow491 said:

good luck to them and hmrc to clamp down on them.

Don't think hmrc can touch used car sales?

Revenue could tax flippers on profit,but would then have to also refund on depreciation and losses.
Don’t think it would suit them to go down that route.

[Yellow491]

Jim1556 said:

Yellow491 said:

good luck to them and hmrc to clamp down on them.

Don't think hmrc can touch used car sales?

I think you will find they can,and if you have a track record of regular flipping,with no use or little use of said cars,could Even be considered a trader through income tax.